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Then don't look at the sponsored speed test. There are many others. And yes it does vary by city. But looking historically you'll also see them climbing and surpassing others. With the low frequency rollout and more phones to support it they should dominate everyone easily.

T-Mobile is last in line on exploring 5G. AT&T is already testing in many cities, with Verizon starting next year along with Sprint. T-Mobile has no plans to do so in 2018. They continue to be behind.
 
No announcement on pricing?

YouTube TV is $35 per month, you can share it with 6 people, and is now available in 80 metro areas (all of which offer ALL the local channels, a rarity in streaming. Most like Sling and Vue only offer one to two local channels with only the big giant cities having all locals streaming). You also get the massive backend of YouTube and I've never seen slowdowns even during big sporting events. Their unlimited DVR is also a big plus too.
I did the trial on YouTube TV and everything about it sucks, looks like something they'll kill in a year or two just like some of their services. No apps supported on any smartTV's including AppleTV and I don't know why they cannot just integrate it to Youtube app.
 
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T-Mobile is last in line on exploring 5G. AT&T is already testing in many cities, with Verizon starting next year along with Sprint. T-Mobile has no plans to do so in 2018. They continue to be behind.
They are working on and testing 5G now. Though irrelevant. They have more coverage and faster speeds in most markets today. LTE is more than fast enough. And they have Gigabit LTE running in 430 markets right now. LTE-A in 920 markets.
By comparison Verizon has LTE-A in 560 markets according to one article. Verizons own website says 450 markets. https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/verizon-lte-advanced-faqs/
In October AT&T said they were rolling at LTE-A to 20 cities.

The 600MHz spectrum they purchased is still being used by TV stations who have 2.5 years to vacate the spectrum. Thus full rollout of 5G at this spectrum cannot happen until 2019.
The advantage to a lower frequency spectrum is it penetrates buildings easier and can cover greater distances. T-Mobiles already large coverage will easily overtake the others when this rollout happens.

AT&T and Verizon are using the 28GHz and 39GHz bands for 5G but that can't cover long distances.
 
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More stuff T-Mobile customers will think they're getting for free without realizing there is no such thing as "free" and everything offered is added in to the cost of their service.

Partially true. You'll never get any of T-Mobile's "extras" with Verizon, and you'll actually pay MORE for less. How isn't it "free" in your eyes? Where is T-Mobile making it back up, where the big V isn't?
 
Dear John,
TV is not the problem and is not at all needed. There are plenty of options and competition now with regards to TV. Personally I use DirectTV Now which gives me 100 Channels + HBO for $35/month. I doubt you'll be beating that.

The Internet however is one of the biggest problem areas in the country. Get me away from Cox communications and I will throw my money at the screen.
 
T-Mobile is last in line on exploring 5G. AT&T is already testing in many cities, with Verizon starting next year along with Sprint. T-Mobile has no plans to do so in 2018. They continue to be behind.
Dont know where you get your information from, but this is completely false. Here's some news for you to read and educate yourself on T-Mobile before you decide to post bad info again.

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/categories/5g/

https://www.ericsson.com/en/news/2017/8/t-mobile-lays-5g-foundation-with-expanded-600-mhz-rollout

http://marketrealist.com/2017/11/t-mobile-stands-5g-race/

http://www.techradar.com/news/lte-advanced-from-t-mobile-is-the-next-step-to-5g-connectivity

And as an FYI, that 8 billion spent on 600mhz spectrum this past year by T-Mobile is being rolled out with the 5G backbone built in to allow for nationwide 'mobile' 5G by 2020. Notice the key word there... 'Mobile'. Now research Verizon and ATT and look for the keywords of 'fixed' and 'millimeter wave'. <-- Useless if you plan to get in your car and go somewhere.
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Dear John,
TV is not the problem and is not at all needed. There are plenty of options and competition now with regards to TV. Personally I use DirectTV Now which gives me 100 Channels + HBO for $35/month. I doubt you'll be beating that.

The Internet however is one of the biggest problem areas in the country. Get me away from Cox communications and I will throw my money at the screen.
I had DirectTV Now (same $35 deal as you got, as I was a Beta tester) and was using it on my Amazon TV. My home internet gets 250mbps dl speed. Every single time I would pick a new channel, I had to wait 20-30 seconds with that stupid blue square spinning. It would buffer during shows. Finally got fed up and cancelled. The service is not worth dealing with the constant buffering and wait times. I'm trying Youtube TV now. Hopefully, T-Mobile does it better than the rest, but time will tell.
 
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lol awesome... best paragraph on MR i ever read :D

"Layer3 TV will help T-Mobile build the service, which is said to provide solutions to lengthy contracts, increasing monthly bill costs, confusing bundles, outdated user interfaces, and more. T-Mobile will fold in Layer3 TV's current services and expand it to a wider audience"
 
Dont know where you get your information from, but this is completely false. Here's some news for you to read and educate yourself on T-Mobile before you decide to post bad info again.

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/categories/5g/

https://www.ericsson.com/en/news/2017/8/t-mobile-lays-5g-foundation-with-expanded-600-mhz-rollout

http://marketrealist.com/2017/11/t-mobile-stands-5g-race/

http://www.techradar.com/news/lte-advanced-from-t-mobile-is-the-next-step-to-5g-connectivity

And as an FYI, that 8 billion spent on 600mhz spectrum this past year by T-Mobile is being rolled out with the 5G backbone built in to allow for nationwide 'mobile' 5G by 2020. Notice the key word there... 'Mobile'. Now research Verizon and ATT and look for the keywords of 'fixed' and 'millimeter wave'. <-- Useless if you plan to get in your car and go somewhere.
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I had DirectTV Now (same $35 deal as you as a Beta tester) and was using it on my Amazon TV. My home internet get 250mbps dl speed. Every single time I would pick a new channel, I had to wait 20-30 seconds with that stupid blow square spinning. It would buffer during shows. Finally got fed up and cancelled. The service is not worth dealing with the constant buffering and wait times.
I expected more from DIRECTV Now. It is possibly the jankiest of all the streaming services. The smoothest was PS Vue but they only do local feeds for cable channels which sucks for us West Coast people. I’m using Sling which is a decent 2nd though not perfect it’s interface and pricing is superior to DTV Now.
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T-Mobile is last in line on exploring 5G. AT&T is already testing in many cities, with Verizon starting next year along with Sprint. T-Mobile has no plans to do so in 2018. They continue to be behind.
Your personal hatred is showing.
 
hey sprint is good and cheap. I have 2 iphones with unlimited everything for 90 a month after a 10 dollar work discount.
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I doubt it. Even if they did raise prices, people would just leave. The market will balance itself.
That makes absolutely no sense. So people would give up netfilx, hulu, etc, because the isp's raised their prices? That's just silly. People will pay the higher costs.
 
I had DirectTV Now (same $35 deal as you got, as I was a Beta tester) and was using it on my Amazon TV. My home internet gets 250mbps dl speed. Every single time I would pick a new channel, I had to wait 20-30 seconds with that stupid blue square spinning. It would buffer during shows. Finally got fed up and cancelled. The service is not worth dealing with the constant buffering and wait times. I'm trying Youtube TV now. Hopefully, T-Mobile does it better than the rest, but time will tell.
The bandwidth math doesn't work for these providers and the low rates they charge for access won't allow enough capital investment to make the situation better for subscribers. The old rule: "Good, Fast, Cheap, pick any two," still applies to these services.

An end-to-end optical fiber infrastructure is the answer, now all we need is the money to pay for it.
 
Not really. The professional staff, i.e., not appointees, that review mergers and acquisitions remains fairly constant and has the same mission as always. There is less of a case to be made for T-Mobile getting swallowed up now than when ATT was buying. Then TMob was in dire straits so a better case was made that there would be no consumer harm. I don't see a case to be made where such a merger does not end up creating less competition now. That is the gold standard in these matters. The DOJ is currently fighting the TW-ATT merger and there is a lot less overlap there than two cellcos merging.

Also FCC is an independent agency, not a department. Just for your reference so you look smarter when talking about it's activities.

The professional staff at any agency are affected greatly but the current leadership and political influence at the time of review and decision making. No one really wants to be the hero and rock the boat with key findings or a decision that will ostracize them from their bosses or potentially even higher up in a tweet du Jour...I agree the merger or acquisition in this case will create a big monopoly case but so does abolishing Net Neutrality and look how that's going.

Thanks for your feedback.
 
I agree the merger or acquisition in this case will create a big monopoly case but so does abolishing Net Neutrality and look how that's going.

Net neutrality is not comparable here. The current NN regime is an administrative rule which can be changed by that same administrative body at any time after notice and hearings. M&A, OTOH, does fall under antitrust laws. It's a much higher bar than a "mere" administrative rule change.
 
I'm curious how this will pan out as T-Mobile customer. I know we'll have to pay somehow. Although I'm content with my current streaming set up as a cord cutter (PS Vue, Netflix, Prime Video, HBO).
 
I had DirectTV Now (same $35 deal as you got, as I was a Beta tester) and was using it on my Amazon TV. My home internet gets 250mbps dl speed. Every single time I would pick a new channel, I had to wait 20-30 seconds with that stupid blue square spinning. It would buffer during shows. Finally got fed up and cancelled. The service is not worth dealing with the constant buffering and wait times. I'm trying Youtube TV now. Hopefully, T-Mobile does it better than the rest, but time will tell.

I had the same issues @ first and then it got better. I also tried youtube TV but there is no ATV App so thats out.
 
That makes absolutely no sense. So people would give up netfilx, hulu, etc, because the isp's raised their prices? That's just silly. People will pay the higher costs.
yeah I believe so, if not then thats just what the market dictates. They will level out their prices or some other company will come along and fill the void with a cheaper plan.
 
yeah I believe so, if not then thats just what the market dictates. They will level out their prices or some other company will come along and fill the void with a cheaper plan.
Net Neutrality goes away and no other company can come along. The ISP's can kill it before it even launches. The corporations will jack the prices as they know you have nowhere else to go.
Businesses HATE competition. And corporations own the government.
 
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I live in NYC and have no issues whatsoever in the city or suburbs. I haven’t noticed any degradation in the past two years. Actually, since updating to iOS 11.1.2 (my first version of 11 after waiting a couple of months) and the latest carrier update, my signal strength and corresponding performance seemed to improve a little in my home.

There's more to NY than NYC upstate T-Mo isn't all that great I'm on Project Fi for that exact reason. I used to use Ting which up here uses T-Mo and the coverage was so spotty that I'd loose it 300 yards in any direction from my office. Now with Fi I just bounce to whatever carrier works in the area I'm in.
 
If all you want it cheap, T-Mobile is the way to go. If you want the most coverage and best speeds, then they're the bottom of the barrel. You get what you pay for.

Umm I get better speeds with T-Mobile than I did on AT&T or Verizon. Coverage is about 85% as good, and that's mostly seen in very large department stores like Walmart, Costco, etc, where connection isn't great on AT&T or Verizon either. Outside coverage is pretty much indistinguishable.

The reason why T-Mobile has better speeds is because there's less congestion. Theoretical speeds may be higher on Verizon and AT&T, but in actual usage it isn't.
 
There's more to NY than NYC upstate T-Mo isn't all that great I'm on Project Fi for that exact reason. I used to use Ting which up here uses T-Mo and the coverage was so spotty that I'd loose it 300 yards in any direction from my office. Now with Fi I just bounce to whatever carrier works in the area I'm in.
Ting, Metro PCS and other prepaid services may ‘use’ T-Mobiles network to some extent, but those customers are deprioritized under T-Mobile customers. Additionally, many of those companies claiming to use T-Mo network lack phones with the proper hardware to utilize all the bands (ie 700mhz band 12). Comparisons with Ting, is like comparing a mule to a race horse. You can ride both, sure... but you aren’t gonna take the mule to the Kentucky Derby.
 
Ting, Metro PCS and other prepaid services may ‘use’ T-Mobiles network to some extent, but those customers are deprioritized under T-Mobile customers. Additionally, many of those companies claiming to use T-Mo network lack phones with the proper hardware to utilize all the bands (ie 700mhz band 12). Comparisons with Ting, is like comparing a mule to a race horse. You can ride both, sure... but you aren’t gonna take the mule to the Kentucky Derby.

You could very well be right just sharing my experience
 
Net Neutrality goes away and no other company can come along. The ISP's can kill it before it even launches. The corporations will jack the prices as they know you have nowhere else to go.
Businesses HATE competition. And corporations own the government.
T-Mobile has already vowed to continue net neutrality. In fact, if you go into any store, you will see that in writing in front of every register.
Verizon and ATT on the other hand have vested interests to get rid of net neutrality.
 
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There's more to NY than NYC upstate T-Mo isn't all that great I'm on Project Fi for that exact reason. I used to use Ting which up here uses T-Mo and the coverage was so spotty that I'd loose it 300 yards in any direction from my office. Now with Fi I just bounce to whatever carrier works in the area I'm in.

I live in Western NY and coverage in this neck of the woods is actually pretty solid. I don’t know what you consider upstate, but my part of upstate is just fine for T-Mobile service.
 
T-Mobile has already vowed to continue net neutrality. In fact, if you go into any store, you will see that in writing in front of every register.
Verizon and ATT on the other hand have vested interests to get rid of net neutrality.
That's good. Though in the past T-mobile has given money to fight it.
But even so, no matter who your ISP is internet traffic gets routed over major backbones. Which happened to be owned by the big players, comcast, AT&T and so on. So even with a ISP that supports Net Neutrality your content could still be restricted.
 
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