Everything is too good to be true. I hope sprint deal never work out.
I agree. Competition is always good... if the deal gets done with Sprint its hard to believe we will be seeing them continue to push boundaries like this.
Everything is too good to be true. I hope sprint deal never work out.
Leave it to tmobile to take something that already exists, make it worse and then promote it as earth shattering.
You can return phones for up to 14 days with most carriers so test driving a 5s while they place a $700 hold on your credit card is not awesome, it is chicanery.
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These people so giddy for this will also be paying. They will have a $699 hold placed on their credit card. If you just buy the phone and return it after a week the net effect would be the same.
I don't get why so many people this is some new magical door opened to them. Although to be fair that has been the totality of tmobiles marketing the last few years. Taking something that already exists and claiming it is brand new.
Just like you tried out tmobile and found their coverage inferior, so could anyone else, no need for this loaner program, which is them just selling you the phone and refunding the money if you return it and fine you for stuff like turning on find your iPhone.
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Yeah charging people $700 for $700 phones is taking on a lot of risk.
Leave it to tmobile to take something that already exists, make it worse and then promote it as earth shattering.
You can return phones for up to 14 days with most carriers so test driving a 5s while they place a $700 hold on your credit card is not awesome, it is chicanery.
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These people so giddy for this will also be paying. They will have a $699 hold placed on their credit card. If you just buy the phone and return it after a week the net effect would be the same.
I don't get why so many people this is some new magical door opened to them. Although to be fair that has been the totality of tmobiles marketing the last few years. Taking something that already exists and claiming it is brand new.
Just like you tried out tmobile and found their coverage inferior, so could anyone else, no need for this loaner program, which is them just selling you the phone and refunding the money if you return it and fine you for stuff like turning on find your iPhone.
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Yeah charging people $700 for $700 phones is taking on a lot of risk.
So much for net neutrality...
Leave it to tmobile to take something that already exists, make it worse and then promote it as earth shattering.
You can return phones for up to 14 days with most carriers so test driving a 5s while they place a $700 hold on your credit card is not awesome, it is chicanery.
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These people so giddy for this will also be paying. They will have a $699 hold placed on their credit card. If you just buy the phone and return it after a week the net effect would be the same.
I don't get why so many people this is some new magical door opened to them. Although to be fair that has been the totality of tmobiles marketing the last few years. Taking something that already exists and claiming it is brand new.
Just like you tried out tmobile and found their coverage inferior, so could anyone else, no need for this loaner program, which is them just selling you the phone and refunding the money if you return it and fine you for stuff like turning on find your iPhone.
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Yeah charging people $700 for $700 phones is taking on a lot of risk.
T-Mobile is the best service in NYC - surprisingly enough. Blazing fast.#1 in NYC
But that's just it. All data is NOT equal. Again, T-Mobile is giving certain services an advantage over others precisely because data is so expensive. If Service A is "free" thanks to a carrier, new service B cannot compete unless the carrier also makes its data free. Carriers should NOT have that kind of power.
Leave it to tmobile to take something that already exists, make it worse and then promote it as earth shattering.
You can return phones for up to 14 days with most carriers so test driving a 5s while they place a $700 hold on your credit card is not awesome, it is chicanery.
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These people so giddy for this will also be paying. They will have a $699 hold placed on their credit card. If you just buy the phone and return it after a week the net effect would be the same.
I don't get why so many people this is some new magical door opened to them. Although to be fair that has been the totality of tmobiles marketing the last few years. Taking something that already exists and claiming it is brand new.
Just like you tried out tmobile and found their coverage inferior, so could anyone else, no need for this loaner program, which is them just selling you the phone and refunding the money if you return it and fine you for stuff like turning on find your iPhone.
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Yeah charging people $700 for $700 phones is taking on a lot of risk.
Yeah, you totally miss the point of this program. Allow me to explain in terms that I think would apply to most people. I am with a carrier who offers me unlimited data; a rare occurrence for cell phone plans between AT&T & VZW today. In order to "try" T-Mobile based on your logic, I would have to leave my carrier for T-Mobile thus forfeiting my unlimited data plan. That is not so terrible if T-Mobile is wonderful in my area and all areas I travel to; however, it would be terrible if I jump to T-Mobile and find out that I am hosed. As a result of this new offer from T-Mobile, I can try a phone with virtually no investment (I don't consider a hold on a credit card a true investment) and answer all questions I may have had concerning T-Mobile.
Additionally, if the phone has... Find My iPhone activated, T-Mobile will charge the user with a $100 "damage fee".
Great marketing assuming the user doesn't take the phone out of a decent T-Mobile reception area.
But I don't really get this part:
Why would that matter. The returned phone can't be sold as new after the test drive and I would think T-Mobile would also restore the phone to factory settings after each test drive as well. What am I missing here?
Great marketing assuming the user doesn't take the phone out of a decent T-Mobile reception area.
But I don't really get this part:
Why would that matter. The returned phone can't be sold as new after the test drive and I would think T-Mobile would also restore the phone to factory settings after each test drive as well. What am I missing here?
This just means that when you return the phone, if Find my iPhone is active (which disallows anyone to unlock the phone without their Apple ID), they will charge you for it... because they can't do anything with it.
I'm wondering if that has to do with it preventing the phone from being restored easily, and T-Mobile performing extra steps to get it ready to be resold, etc. Similar to a re-stocking fee.
What is there not to get? If you return a damaged test drive phone, you'll be charged a damage fee. Use a case. Protect the phone from water. Don't lock the phone with "Find my iPhone". It means the phone won't be re-useable. Just remove the "Find my iPhone" activation lock before you turn it in.
Just activating it alone, no that isn't damage. If you return the phone to them without deactivating it -- the phone is useless. The activation lock from "Find my iPhone" can not be removed without that customers Apple ID password.
Maybe apple can deactivate "find my iPhone", however, maybe Apple on purpose didn't include a backdoor. It would be an exploitable weakness in the system after all.
I'm sure it is, moreover, i'm sure the T-Mobile retail store employees will be trained to check for it and remind the customer to remove it, if it hasn't. That said, it's certainly possible for the customer to have legitimately forgotten the password. Regardless of how it happens, the phone is not resellable or referbishable, at least, not without added hassle and probably extra expense. Therefore the $100 fee is "lock picking" expense they charge you for the hassle of having to deal with removing the activation lock caused by "find my iPhone" left on the phone by the customer.
Am I the only one here that wouldn't consider the 5S a forward-thinking phone? Other than perhaps the whole 64bit stuff.
Nothing better than some well placed sarcasm! You sir pull it off perfectly.
I think this is a great idea for those on the fence about switching. I won't be getting in on the deal but it's nice to see Tmo making large steps in the right direction.
Also this test drive allows people to try out the service without having to port numbers over or paying a restocking fee.
clearly does not understand a hold. Not to mention you do not have to go through the hassle of canceling your current phone plan to try out their network. This is nothing but good news.
T-Mobile is the best service in NYC - surprisingly enough. Blazing fast.
T-Mobile Sucks. In NYC their coverage isn't nearly as good as Verizon or Sprint(During Hurricane Sandy, Verizon was the only network working in downtown Manhattan). Also, recently, after running around taking care of an ill family member, I was 10 days late on an $85 bill...and they suspended my account.
Leave it to tmobile to take something that already exists, make it worse and then promote it as earth shattering.
You can return phones for up to 14 days with most carriers so test driving a 5s while they place a $700 hold on your credit card is not awesome, it is chicanery.
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These people so giddy for this will also be paying. They will have a $699 hold placed on their credit card. If you just buy the phone and return it after a week the net effect would be the same.
I don't get why so many people this is some new magical door opened to them. Although to be fair that has been the totality of tmobiles marketing the last few years. Taking something that already exists and claiming it is brand new.
Just like you tried out tmobile and found their coverage inferior, so could anyone else, no need for this loaner program, which is them just selling you the phone and refunding the money if you return it and fine you for stuff like turning on find your iPhone.
I would try again down the road with a LTE device. T-Mobile hopes to have half of their rural Edge network upgraded to LTE by the end of the year with a majority of it done mid next year.
For some of those rural sites (outside of some that are cost prohibitive to run backhaul to) they will be going right to LTE and not using 3G - so a 4s wouldn't be able to pick up on those improvements.
I don't think so. If you "set up" an account with ATT, VZW, Sprint, or T-mo my assumption is that you are responsible for your share of service, taxes, and data used.To be fair, setting up a new account with T-Mobile to try out for 14 days doesn't require you to port numbers, either.