Really? So, you can buy an iPad or transfer your AT&T iPad and get 200MB for free per month and that is fraud? If you finance your ipad, you need a plan - like with a phone. How is that fraud? Buy it full price, get 200MB for free.
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T-Mobile CEO Misleads on 'No Strings Attached' Free Data, New Customers Require $20 Data Plan to Finance iPads
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Really? So, you can buy an iPad or transfer your AT&T iPad and get 200MB for free per month and that is fraud? If you finance your ipad, you need a plan - like with a phone. How is that fraud? Buy it full price, get 200MB for free.
This is an honest question here: you all really think you'll get by with 200 MB of data? I know many people only use their ipads where there's wifi but for the people who use the cellular data, I don't think 200 MB/month is enough, and I predict most customers will end up buying a more expensive cellular plan anyway?
My previous iPad was cellular and I didn't use it that much month to month. I wanted it for when I travel abroad and I could use a local pay-as-you-go SIM and pay local data rates. To me, getting a free local allocation of 200Mb is just a bonus. I might use it when I'm not on wifi but probably not much so 200Mb is probably fine, but yes, on occasion I will probably buy a larger monthly allocation, but even then it's month by month and I'm not tied to a T-Mo contract.
Are you so retarded that you don't understand that this is obviously still an issue for many people?
Ok, I posted earlier that activation of the free data wasn't an issue. Spoke too soon. The gotcha is they have Parental Controls turned on by DEFAULT. I can't even view most of the webpages that I normally go through.
What's worse, in order to deactivate the parental controlsI need to have a T-Mobile number to sign in. So yep, I have to go to the T-Mobile store and get a T-Mobile number. I have a gimped, $1K tablet.
I'm taking this piece of crap back and will either just keep my WiFi iPad 2 or get an ATT iPad, but I'm almost out of contract with them and desperately want to get rid of them. So yeah. I'm pretty upset.
So, finally able to get in. They had automatically sent an email with the phone number when I initially signed up. Now I can't get past the stupid security screen because the website is broken. I never knew T-Mobile was this AWFUL. I've tested their LTE service in the past for work and it was always pretty darn good - better than ATT. But this initial experience is awful, so yep, think I'm taking it back if the website isn't working tomorrow. I'm really frustrated by this, there is no way they should have Parental Controls turn ON by default! Just freaking ridiculous! Like everyone is buying iPads for their spoiled kids???? Is that what T-Mobile thinks??
I don't know what you are talking about here buddy. T-mobile assigned your tablet a phone number. It's on page one of your invoice.
Also in the name of science I used T-Mobile to surf some porn. For science. No issues. I've changed no settings wouldn't know how if I wanted to. So maybe it's just you.
Call the a service rep and tell them you needs your porn.
umm...nope... again, your missing the point. The problem people are having it that the installment plan and free data was implied in their (ambiguously worded, at best) advertising. After the expected confusion ensued at T-mobile stores and online during the Air launch, the CEO's tweet then implied the same thing...EVERYONE...NO strings attached...period. Numerous reputable websites picked up the info and ran with it letting everyone know they could indeed do this. T-mobile never once had a PR rep contact anyone to set the record straight. In fact they probably sat back and enjoyed the free publicity. Too bad, whoever made that call was a complete idiot, and will likely be soon looking for a new job, after all the negative publicity eventually dies down.
Yes, one would not expect a deal like this. Yes, it does seem like a lot for free. No, I do not feel like I am entitled to this. T-mobile did, however, imply this, whether they meant to or not. THAT is the real issue. It APPEARS as false advertising, though legally, probably is not. Just badly communicated advertising, and a CEO using ambiguous language to ride the wave. Shame...
I can't help but scoff at all of the "If you need to finance an iPad, you can't afford one" statements.
I could easily say, "If you need to finance a car, you can't afford one" or "If you need to finance a home, you can't afford one" or even "If you need to use a credit card for anything, you can't afford it."
What a load of moronic and ignorant statements. Opening and honoring a line of credit is the only way to build a solid financial foundation for your future in this country.
So go ahead, keep buying everything with your debit card or with cash and see how far you get when you apply for an auto loan or a home loan or a business loan.
Or admit that you use credit in your everyday lives too but like to electronically masturbate to message boards by attempting to put people down.
I could easily say, "If you need to finance a car, you can't afford one" or "If you need to finance a home, you can't afford one" or even "If you need to use a credit card for anything, you can't afford it."
What a load of moronic and ignorant statements. Opening and honoring a line of credit is the only way to build a solid financial foundation for your future in this country.
So go ahead, keep buying everything with your debit card or with cash and see how far you get when you apply for an auto loan or a home loan or a business loan.
Or admit that you use credit in your everyday lives too but like to electronically masturbate to message boards by attempting to put people down.
Only if they tell you it is free when signing up but say it isn't on your first bill. If someone still signs for a $20 then tough luck ... I would walk out of the shop if I won't be able to get what was advertised - simples ...
Yeah, I realized it was kind of an a$$hole statement. Car loan is a good point. People have the right to be frustrated and I should just stay out of it. It's just hard to imagine a company is going to provide free financing with no strings. I'd hate to see what happens if these people miss a payment.
Gotta love the cry babies. Sorry, you are not going to get everything for nothing. Go to the other 2 major carriers who will charge an arm and a leg and will laugh at you as they already do to the 180 million who bankroll them.
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No such things as misleading when something is offered free; even if only 3 people were able to quality..
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No such things as misleading when something is offered free; even if only 3 people were able to quality..
No mate, no it wouldn't. It would be similar to buying a car at 0 down and 0 interest and getting a small amount of gas free for life. But then if you wanted more gas, you had to buy it from the same place that sold you the car. See the difference, there?
Do the math. Actually, don't; I did it two weeks ago when I was looking for a new contract. For a single plan using more than 2GB of data, here's what it will cost you to run an iPhone 5s for two years with all costs including buying and paying off the handset:
At&t: $2640
Tmobile: $2541.12
Sprint: $2280
Verizon: $2040
Hard to argue with numbers, which is what it ultimately comes down to. I'm not saying your 5 person family plan isn't a good deal, I'm saying that Tmobile aren't revolutionising the industry in terms of cost like they claim to be. What they are really doing is presenting what is essentially the same deal as everyone else, in a new format. It's not until you sit down and work out how much it's going to cost at the end of day that you realise that you are still getting screwed.
AND some people out there still dont think this is false advertisement???
They fully intended to advertised it that way.
I dont know where John J Leger come from, but free is not free when a cost is introduced, regardless of financing or not. When you say "FREE, no exception, no string attach", then one should be able to conclude that there is indeed no exception, no string attach, and FREE.
But it is not the case, everyone gets 200mb "EXCEPT" new financing customer.
Sure, but keep in mind that there absolutely can be "gotchas" and more over there are people and especially businesses that abuse credit / financing. So it's not such a clear cut do it / don't do it thing. You need to know what you are getting into.
The reality is that $0 down, 0% interest, and otherwise fee free financing is an anomaly when the "raison d'être" for financing is to generate fees and interest.
And while free financing on iPads (cellular or not) is certainly a boon -- You could just as well make a case that credit can and is abused which can get people into trouble. And therefore should only be used when necessary for big ticket items like a Home, a car, or major home appliances.
Not on something discretionary like an iPad where a credit card would be completely sufficient.
This is what's wrong with our society.... The greed. 0% financing OR free data are both free by themselves but is it good enough?? No... We need to have our cake and eat it too...
And honestly if one needs financing for iPad, they probably should not be buying it.... I'm waiting for my bonus from work to get it instead of getting it now when I don't have enough money in the bank
And honestly if one needs financing for iPad, they probably should not be buying it.... I'm waiting for my bonus from work to get it instead of getting it now when I don't have enough money in the bank
Again for the 100th time....
Everyone has free finance. Apple, BestBuy, Walmart and others...
The "no strings attached" and the way it wasn't disclosed properly made it seem as if the 0 down 0 finance would be combined with 200mb free data with "no strings and no charges"
They intended to make it seem this way to increase sales. That's why people are claiming false advertising.
AT&T also offers free finance too. With strings.. So people didn't want to go that route.
If Chevrolet said.... Free oil changes for life... any make... any model "no strings attached for life"
Then later said.... well no strings if you own your car outright or purchased a Chevy is the past.
But if you want to buy a new Chevy from us at 0% and give us the profit from a sale. We will charge you $20 for your oil changes because we gave you 0%. You know because no other car dealers offer 0%.
Very cool. I just called TMobile and got my iPad2 activated for no charge. It's exactly what they say. My account shows a $10/m charge for this basic data plan but right underneath it says that there will also be a $10 credit.
I already have 3 spare SIM cards I got from customer service a few weeks ago so no problems. For my iPhones, I have walked in to a store and just gotten a free SIM card from them.
I don't really use my iPad out of the house, but hey, this is FREE and ya never know…
FWIW, I really dislike the tone of this article insinuating that the CEO "misleads." For crying out loud, that $20 data plan only applies to financed iPads. CHILL OUT!!
T-Mobile has been awesome. I have 4 phone lines with unlimited calls/texts and data (500MB then throttled) for which I pay $86 per month with my family plan and discounts, incl. taxes. Plus now they have international roaming (data/text) for free with 20¢ calls -- and the free iPad data plan. Nothing compares cost-wise. The only drawback is getting 3G/4G when I'm driving outside of major metro areas but I can live with that. While I'm in the city they have great coverage.
And their customer service has been awesome too.
I already have 3 spare SIM cards I got from customer service a few weeks ago so no problems. For my iPhones, I have walked in to a store and just gotten a free SIM card from them.
I don't really use my iPad out of the house, but hey, this is FREE and ya never know…
FWIW, I really dislike the tone of this article insinuating that the CEO "misleads." For crying out loud, that $20 data plan only applies to financed iPads. CHILL OUT!!
T-Mobile has been awesome. I have 4 phone lines with unlimited calls/texts and data (500MB then throttled) for which I pay $86 per month with my family plan and discounts, incl. taxes. Plus now they have international roaming (data/text) for free with 20¢ calls -- and the free iPad data plan. Nothing compares cost-wise. The only drawback is getting 3G/4G when I'm driving outside of major metro areas but I can live with that. While I'm in the city they have great coverage.
And their customer service has been awesome too.
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I can only imagine how that conversation would go
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With T-Mobile you have the option to purchase by the day if you want. I think you can purchase by the hour as well. So buy more data when you need it.
0% financing is a better deal than paying upfront for anything regardless of financial status. Its math
I just went and calculated 2 year cell contract, using the 16GB iPhone 5S:
AT&T: $95.00 * 24 + $36.00 + $211.99 = $2527.99 (2GB data plan)
Verizon: $100.00 * 24 + $199.99 = $2599.99 (2 GB data plan)
Sprint: $70.00 * 24 + $36 + $107.49 = $1823.49 (Only could find 1GB or unlimited data plan)
T-Mobile: $80.83 * 24 + $159.99 = $2099.91 (2.5GB data plan)
You are right it is hard to argue with the numbers. A few things that are different as well. At the end of the 2 years the payment drop by $20.83/month for T-Mobile. With the others the payment stays the same. Right there you save $249.96/year. And people have been known to keep their phones longer then 2 years. Plus when I add more lines with T-Mobile each line gets its own data plan, not have to share like the other providers offer.
I would say T-Mobile is unique enough that is why I am a customer with them.
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If you read/was told what we read/were told last week, you would probably have 200+ questions posted in this thread alone. Nice try.
Clearly you're new here. Welcome to the forums.
Misleading is misleading. Marketing is using FACTUAL EVIDENCE to sell someone on a product. Real marketing isn't outright misleading. Misleading is. I get that in your cynical world you think they're one in the same, but they're not.
Please try to understand that this time, because I have no interest in explaining it to you again.
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I typically use about 4.5GB per month on my iPad with T-Mobile simply because the reception works at my house where I get LTE.
If I use AT&T, I use less than 250MB per month because I have to leave my house to get a signal.
I can see how though some people could get by with 200MB per month.
No matter how butt-hurt we all feel about this - T-Mobile is laughing all the way to the bank -
http://allthingsd.com/20131105/t-mo...h-day-than-entire-prior-quarter/?mod=atdtweet
"T-Mobile sold more tablets on iPad Air launch date than the entirety of last quarter."
http://allthingsd.com/20131105/t-mo...h-day-than-entire-prior-quarter/?mod=atdtweet
"T-Mobile sold more tablets on iPad Air launch date than the entirety of last quarter."
After the total run around by 5 different departments, the CSR I just spoke to told me that I am on a $10 on demand plan and which will at the same time credit me $10 while I am on installments for the iPad @ $26 or whatever. I have the device in hand but I have yet to open it or put the SIM in until I get the bill. Which should be in the next day or two. They told me that typically yes you have to pay the $10, but they are offering this new plan because of this whole 200 MB ordeal so we shall see if I do in fact get a $10 credit every month.
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