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I've noticed that you really seem to hate T-Mobile, and attack them at every opportunity.

Is there a reason for this? It seems like they personally slighted you in some way.


hes mad they are finally becoming a good company.

glad to see i was right about them, years ago i told my buddies they were gonna make a comeback and become a top carrier. They arent top yet, but they might get close.

they are 100x better than Sprint, might one day be better than ATT but doubt they wiill ever overtake Verizon. they are just too good

Tmbile is doing everything right, iphone, great plans, price, and employing LTE everywhere.
 
I think T-Mobile allows up to 5 lines.

1 line: $50 per line
2 lines: $40 per line
3 lines: $30 per line
4 lines: $25 per line
5 lines: $22 per line

$22 for unlimited talk, unlimited text and data* (throttled to 2G after 500MB of 4G LTE) is a great bargain in the USA.
 
hes mad they are finally becoming a good company.

glad to see i was right about them, years ago i told my buddies they were gonna make a comeback and become a top carrier. They arent top yet, but they might get close.

they are 100x better than Sprint, might one day be better than ATT but doubt they wiill ever overtake Verizon. they are just too good

Tmbile is doing everything right, iphone, great plans, price, and employing LTE everywhere.

When you mean LTE everywhere, it has to be corrected to "couple towers in the launched market" so they can lie about all the LTE markets they "have"

How are they better than Sprint? Just curious.

Sprint has made it clear that they will have LTE on every tower...eventually. TMobile has said NOTHING about all those GPRS/EDGE areas (a significant amount.)

Not to mention, their deployments are mediocre at best. There is ZERO reason why I should be able to get EDGE in top markets, like NYC, Boston, Hartford, Providence, Philly, etc. Sure as hell doesn't happen AT&T. You never see 1x on Sprint or VZW
 
When you mean LTE everywhere, it has to be corrected to "couple towers in the launched market" so they can lie about all the LTE markets they "have"

How are they better than Sprint? Just curious.

Sprint has made it clear that they will have LTE on every tower...eventually. TMobile has said NOTHING about all those GPRS/EDGE areas (a significant amount.)

Not to mention, their deployments are mediocre at best. There is ZERO reason why I should be able to get EDGE in top markets, like NYC, Boston, Hartford, Providence, Philly, etc. Sure as hell doesn't happen AT&T. You never see 1x on Sprint or VZW

Where are all of these "GPRS/EDGE areas" you are talking about? Here in Texas I haven't had edge on my iPhone 5 at all just 4G and LTE. I came from at&t and have gotten better reception for phone calls and data via T-Mobile. With at&t, I would only get 1-2 bars at home and the calls would sound low quality or get dropped now I get 4-5 bars and clearer calls. I had to use Talkatone before with at&t just to hold a steady conversation. Now I don't have to do that.

Why do you bash T-Mobile so much? Is at&t paying you to do this or what's the agenda behind your propaganda? Let's see your speed test results and location. I'm happy with the data speeds and service I am getting. I don't travel often, especially down the east coast so what you are claiming is irrelevant to me.
 
That was then.. this is now, T-mobile is light years better than what they used to be.. I have 4G everywhere and i'm in the PA mountains

I was thinking about leaving AT&T for T-Mobile and I'm in Central PA. (Red Lion area). I've heard from so many people in my immediate area that have T-Mobile that they can't get a good signal. I've stayed away just for that reason. My coverage is fine currently with AT&T but I was looking into T-Mobile for a lower price. It wouldn't be so bad if the iPhone had their WiFi calling feature like their Android and Windows Phones did.
 
Where are all of these "GPRS/EDGE areas" you are talking about? Here in Texas I haven't had edge on my iPhone 5 at all just 4G and LTE. I came from at&t and have gotten better reception for phone calls and data via T-Mobile. With at&t, I would only get 1-2 bars at home and the calls would sound low quality or get dropped now I get 4-5 bars and clearer calls. I had to use Talkatone before with at&t just to hold a steady conversation. Now I don't have to do that.

Why do you bash T-Mobile so much? Is at&t paying you to do this or what's the agenda behind your propaganda? Let's see your speed test results and location. I'm happy with the data speeds and service I am getting. I don't travel often, especially down the east coast so what you are claiming is irrelevant to me.

He trolls on all T-Mobile threads, its funny to see.

I also made the switch from AT&T and get 4-5 bars on T-Mobile LTE and 4G in non-metropolitan areas of Portland. Very happy and saving money :)
 
I also made the switch from AT&T and get 4-5 bars on T-Mobile LTE and 4G in non-metropolitan areas of Portland. Very happy and saving money :)

I do use a Nexus 4 on T-Mobile and it has been pretty good so far, about as good as AT&T.

As far as other devices, not so good.

iPhone 4S spends a lot of time on edge but that is normal due to the limited areas that the refarmed areas cover. One would have to get a phone such as the iPhone 5 or Nexus 4 to take advantage of the correct frequencies.

iPad Mini on T-Mobile spends 90% of it's time on edge when out traveling in my area. The only time I get LTE is at my house which is amazing, something AT&T can't give me.
 
Where are all of these "GPRS/EDGE areas" you are talking about?

There's a world outside of Texas you know...

Come to the Northeast. I can drive from Portland, Maine to Washington DC and NEVER loose LTE on VZW or AT&T. I can stream music perfectly.

TMobile? Mostly EDGE/GPRS. You get some HSPA when you hit Boston and then loose it in CT until you hit Hartford. Then it's gone until NYC. Then between NYC and DC, it is EDGE until Philly, and then between Phily and DC, it's gone once again.

I've done this drive many many times. My car runs on TMobile service. Its GPS can't buffer maps when on EDGE, which is most of the time. The built-in WiFi hotspot is worthless also. I wish there was a way to tether my AT&T or VZW connection to my car.

TMobile has more EDGE out there than HSPA. In fact, VZW and AT&T has more LTE than TMobile has HSPA. Ridiculous when you know that TMobile has been deploying HSPA for almost 5 years and LTE deployments started back in 2011.

Fact of the matter is that they haven't pledged any sort of updates for all this GPRS/EDGE. Legere is too busy spewing his BS to all the bottom dwellers, who love his kool-aid.

And no, I am not paid by AT&T or VZW. I pay for AT&T and TMobile. And get VZW from work. I am well-aware of what's going out there. If you don't care to admit, then I'm sorry.
 
There's a world outside of Texas you know...

Come to the Northeast. I can drive from Portland, Maine to Washington DC and NEVER loose LTE on VZW or AT&T. I can stream music perfectly.

TMobile? Mostly EDGE/GPRS. You get some HSPA when you hit Boston and then loose it in CT until you hit Hartford. Then it's gone until NYC. Then between NYC and DC, it is EDGE until Philly, and then between Phily and DC, it's gone once again.

I've done this drive many many times. My car runs on TMobile service. Its GPS can't buffer maps when on EDGE, which is most of the time. The built-in WiFi hotspot is worthless also. I wish there was a way to tether my AT&T or VZW connection to my car.

TMobile has more EDGE out there than HSPA. In fact, VZW and AT&T has more LTE than TMobile has HSPA. Ridiculous when you know that TMobile has been deploying HSPA for almost 5 years and LTE deployments started back in 2011.

Fact of the matter is that they haven't pledged any sort of updates for all this GPRS/EDGE. Legere is too busy spewing his BS to all the bottom dwellers, who love his kool-aid.

And no, I am not paid by AT&T or VZW. I pay for AT&T and TMobile. And get VZW from work. I am well-aware of what's going out there. If you don't care to admit, then I'm sorry.

Again, this is your own personal opinion and experience. Mine is the complete opposite and there are millions of customers all of which will give you mixed opinions and all. But for you to continuously go into T-Mobile threads and bash them with the same repetitive comments is why I asked if you were being paid by att.

I've lived in Dallas as well and there I had 1 bar on my iphone 4 but would get dropped calls all the time. It got to the point that living in a 2nd floor apartment I had to use Skype and cancel my att service. Even with the work discount I had att was still expensive and am now paying $35 for my service and am happy with it.

What data speeds are you getting anyways? Because mine are better than people around here who have att so i'm wondering what speeds you are getting if you are bashing t-mobile and brag about superior service.

By the way, I don't travel a lot so I don't care if it's LTE in your area or other certain areas. As long as it works when I need it to and where i'm at I am fine with it. You must be a busy, business man to be traveling as much and needing all that LTE speed. Bottom dwellers? Please, grow up. Do you tell that to people who eat at certain places? Dress a certain way? Drive a certain car? Do you call them bottom dwellers for spending less on certain items? Because it can apply to many other things in life.
 
Legere is too busy spewing his BS to all the bottom dwellers, who love his kool-aid.

Yet T-Mobile killed contracts, allows people to upgrade WHENEVER they like and the upcoming Phase 3, which most definitely will kill EDGE and add LTE to EDGE towers. Yes, I 100% agree that John Legere is spewing BS. :rolleyes:

T-Mobile customers are not "bottom-dwellers." They are people who like to save money and have great Metro-city LTE coverage.

I also wouldn't be surprised if you get banned from MacRumors, since you already had a time-out from your constant T-Mobile bashing. :D
 
Yet T-Mobile killed contracts, allows people to upgrade WHENEVER they like and the upcoming Phase 3, which most definitely will kill EDGE and add LTE to EDGE towers.

You sound like the guys on S4Gru.

Not whenever. Every few months and if you sign up for the Jump service. Hardly a good deal.

How will they get rid of EDGE and overlay LTE? On what frequency? If they were going to cover the US with AWS LTE, they need to add many more cell sites because AWS doesn't have the same signal propagation abilities as 700.

Instead of personal attacks, I suggest you actually try to refute my points (you've never been able to). Since you lack the technical knowledge, don't waste my time or even yours with a response.

Thanks

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Again, this is your own personal opinion and experience. Mine is the complete opposite and there are millions of customers all of which will give you mixed opinions and all. But for you to continuously go into T-Mobile threads and bash them with the same repetitive comments is why I asked if you were being paid by att.

I've lived in Dallas as well and there I had 1 bar on my iphone 4 but would get dropped calls all the time. It got to the point that living in a 2nd floor apartment I had to use Skype and cancel my att service. Even with the work discount I had att was still expensive and am now paying $35 for my service and am happy with it.

What data speeds are you getting anyways? Because mine are better than people around here who have att so i'm wondering what speeds you are getting if you are bashing t-mobile and brag about superior service.

Dallas eh?

http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/dallas/dallas-tx/

A reputable 3rd party testing company puts VZW and AT&T faster than TMobile in Dallas. Not to mention, AT&T's downlink seems to be 3x as fast. Hardly, the poor service you describe.
 
T-Mobile customers are not "bottom-dwellers." They are people who like to save money and have great Metro-city LTE coverage.

I'm a fan of T-mobile but even I have to admit that they have HUGE gaps in metro city coverage. I live in Denver near the Boulder Turnpike/I-25 area. Huge area and yet take a look at my screen cap of LTE coverage in my area. This is an LTE coverage area of less than a mile. Huge gaps all over the city. I am lucky to be in this area that has LTE, I'm right in the middle.
 

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You sound like the guys on S4Gru.

Not whenever. Every few months and if you sign up for the Jump service. Hardly a good deal.

How will they get rid of EDGE and overlay LTE? On what frequency? If they were going to cover the US with AWS LTE, they need to add many more cell sites because AWS doesn't have the same signal propagation abilities as 700.

Instead of personal attacks, I suggest you actually try to refute my points. Since you lack the technical knowledge, don't waste my time or even yours with a response.

Thanks

T-Mobile has a nationwide slice of spectrum which is AWS 1700/2100 MHz. All they have to do is install LTE equipment on their EDGE towers and they are set.

Just like you said "Even Sprint has nationwide 3G and they are using PCS1900" (Also 800 MHz ESMR.) T-Mobile can deploy LTE on their existing EDGE network. And since they have many EDGE towers, with much backhaul, I'm sure they can do it.

And as the FCC 600 MHz auction comes up, T-Mobile can snatch a nationwide slice of that and beat AT&T and Verizon in coverage (Since as you know, AT&T/Verizon will not get that a lot of spectrum from that, since they already snatched 700 MHz spectrum.)

Since you lack respect for current/future T-Mobile customers, I suggest you stop going into T-Mobile threads and also stop complaining on how T-Mobile is "mediocre" and AT&T/Verizon are the "kings."

(Yes, I may be less of a cellular expert than you, but that doesn't mean that you should troll T-Mobile threads. To each their own company.)
 
Gotta love the tmobile fanboys and the cool-aide drinking. No amount of Magenta lipstick on a pig will ever hide the massive weaknesses of their network.

Fact: Tmobile has the smallest network of the large carriers.
Fact: Tmobile has the largest percentage of 2G of any network.
Fact: Tmobile still utilizes GRPS, not even Edge, on a various portions of their network.
Fact: Tmobile was just yesterday ranked last for the quality of their network by an independent study.
Fact: Once you factor in the cost of a handset, t-mobile is barely $5 to $10 cheaper than leading carriers like VZ or AT&T.

Reality: Tmobile is a budget carrier that is late to the game and limited to metro areas, while claiming they have "Nationwide 4G".

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Since you lack respect for current/future T-Mobile customers, I suggest you stop going into T-Mobile threads and also stop complaining on how T-Mobile is "mediocre" and AT&T/Verizon are the "kings."

You can have all the opinions in the world but when you claim that Sprint or Tmobile are better than either VZ or AT&T, with double the subscribers and network size, that is a blatant joke.
 
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Gotta love the tmobile fanboys and the cool-aide drinking. No amount of Magenta lipstick on a pig will ever hide the massive weaknesses of their network.

Fact: Tmobile has the smallest network of any carrier.
Fact: Tmobile has the largest percentage of 2G of any network.
Fact: Tmobile still utilizes GRPS, not even Edge, on a large portion of the network.
Fact: Tmobile was just yesterday ranked last for quality of their network by an independent study.
Fact: Once you factor in the cost of a handset, t-mobile is barely $5 to $10 cheaper than leading carriers like VZ or AT&T.

Reality: Tmobile is a budget carrier that is late to the game and limited to metro areas, while claiming they have "Nationwide 4G".

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Likewise, I suggest that some run off to the safe confines of tmonews, where these ridiculous assertions are never challenged.

You can have all the opinions in the world but when you claim that Sprint or Tmobile are better than either VZ or AT&T, with double the subscribers and network size, that is a blatant joke.

Now-now, I don't hate AT&T and Verizon, but just because one person hates a certain carrier/company, it doesn't mean everyone else should, nor does it mean that people who like T-Mobile should get blasted by silly comments by AutoUnion (And in this case, you.)

By the way, I don't see AT&T/Verizon having unlimited data, or even worthy early-upgrade programs. :p
 
Don't forget about T mobiles horrible building penetration. I work in a hospital, at the front entrance Tmobile gets 5 bars and LTE, by the time I get to my office I have no signal. AT&T has a nice strong 5 bars and LTE in my office.

There is definitely a reason Tmobile, like Sprint, tries to undercut everyone else.
 
Gotta love the tmobile fanboys and the cool-aide drinking. No amount of Magenta lipstick on a pig will ever hide the massive weaknesses of their network.

Fact: Tmobile has the smallest network of the large carriers.
Fact: Tmobile has the largest percentage of 2G of any network.
Fact: Tmobile still utilizes GRPS, not even Edge, on a various portions of their network.
Fact: Tmobile was just yesterday ranked last for the quality of their network by an independent study.
Fact: Once you factor in the cost of a handset, t-mobile is barely $5 to $10 cheaper than leading carriers like VZ or AT&T.

Reality: Tmobile is a budget carrier that is late to the game and limited to metro areas, while claiming they have "Nationwide 4G".

How DARE YOU bring in FACTS to this thread! :eek:
 
Sure T-Mobile is the most affordable. The recurring and major problem with their network is the vast geographical area of 2G/Edge that they have. If they at least covered all the major interstates with HSPA+ then I might consider them a viable carrier.

I'll admit that when I'm in a city that has their "4G" or LTE it works great, even competitive with Verizon and AT&T, but I travel way too much to deal with Edge on the Interstate. Going from Richmond to Miami it's Edge almost the whole trip between the NC/VA border and Jacksonville, FL with only a couple patches of HSPA+. This is I-95, the busiest interstate in the country and you drive through 2 and a half entire states with Edge 90% of the time! Unacceptable in 2013 for me.

Now if you stay in your native metro area most of the time they might be good for you. Just not worth it for those of us who travel.

I've seen them making moves to improve their LTE strength in areas that already have LTE or HSPA+. But no comments from their executives on the current 2G areas. Right now they're better than Sprint but Sprint now has the tools to improve in the future and become competitive. If T-Mobile doesn't get a major slice of that 600mhz spectrum coming up, I think they're done.
 
I'm making a simple analogy. It's hilarious how some people on here think that some mediocre competition (in the form of TMobile) will make the big boys (AT&T, VZW) change their business and lower their prices.

It's almost exactly the same in the car business. Just because Hyundai makes a budget luxury car doesn't mean Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and BMW have to lower their prices to match the competition. There are always tradeoffs. Better quality versus lower price.

that's a crap analogy. data is a commodity. nobody chooses att because their 5g of data is prettier, looks better, has better resale value, gets chicks, etc. if t-mobile is able to match the speed and availability of ATT / Verizon, you will most certainly see a shift in pricing strategies.
 
T-Mobile first LTE market went LIVE not even 6 months ago.

It will take time for T-Mobile to improve LTE coverage.

But 1 thing is for sure. Their LTE coverage a month from now will be better than it is today. 2 months from now will be better than 1 month from now etc...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/26/t-mobile-announces-first-lte-markets/
March 26 2013

T-Mobile's LTE rollout has been a long time coming, but as of today that network is finally live. At an event in New York City, the carrier made its initial batch of LTE cities official -- seven markets in total.

If you live and work mostly in the city, T-Mobile will save you money.
If you travel a lot or don't live in the city, T-Mobile might not be for you.

80% of Americans live in urban areas. Plenty of people for T-mobile to market to.
 
that's a crap analogy. data is a commodity. nobody chooses att because their 5g of data is prettier, looks better, has better resale value, gets chicks, etc. if t-mobile is able to match the speed and availability of ATT / Verizon, you will most certainly see a shift in pricing strategies.

You are correct, I don't think anyone will care about the branding of data as long as it matches AT&T and Verizon in coverage and speed. However, I think that day is several years and billions of dollars away for T-mobile. AT&T has got cash to burn and its only now catching up to Verizon. In a few more months, they'll be pretty equal--then the 5G battle begins.
 
I've had T-Mobile for about 3 months now in the Chicago area and the service hasn't been the best at all. I do not get any service in my basement at home unless I'm close to a window. I can go from LTE to 4G to E all in a matter of 2 minutes or less. The building penetration, as stated before, is the worse. There is definitely a reason why T-Mo is one of the cheapest carriers and I don't think they're even close to catching AT&T.
 
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