I agree to disagree with you, because at least with verizon you have no proof of a direct correlation.
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I agree to disagree with you, because at least with verizon you have no proof of a direct correlation.
So the edge program which allows early upgrading, splits phone payments into 24 months, has no correlation to uncarrier, which came before it? lol ok.
It seems their service is improving. Good to hear. They always had good deals but it seemed like it was at the expense of their service coverage.
Recent interview with TMO CTO Neville Ray
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2454940,00.asp
Looks like TMO plans to have 301 million covered by LTE by mid-2015. Ironically, getting LTE to that last 17 million will be due to AT&T agreeing to support Band 12 LTE in their phones. That pretty much means LTE to the entire native network (including the GPRS/EDGE areas) footprint plus 17 million more in the "roaming only" areas. Pretty significant upgrade.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2454940,00.asp
Looks like TMO plans to have 301 million covered by LTE by mid-2015. Ironically, getting LTE to that last 17 million will be due to AT&T agreeing to support Band 12 LTE in their phones. That pretty much means LTE to the entire native network (including the GPRS/EDGE areas) footprint plus 17 million more in the "roaming only" areas. Pretty significant upgrade.
That'd be great, addressing really the main gripes some customers have. They'll prolly buy more 700 and try to get 600 to accomplish this.
LOL! Go to ~18 second mark and see the ticker at the bottom. I thought it was the low rates and extra data that was leading to T-Mobile increasing their customer base!
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AT&T reacted, not Verizon. I really like the new plans, and untying phone subsidies were long overdue, but AT&T still overreacted to a non-credible threat.
That was just a money grab... not anything like what AT&T did.
What on earth are you doing with your phone? That is absolutely ludicrous.
AT&T's phones have nothing to do with T-Mobile's LTE. Only T-Mobile's phones have anything to do with that. Band 12 would technically allow AT&T to roam on USCC LTE, but that's about it if USCC agreed to a roaming deal.
Uh Verizon AT&T and sprint reacted. Even if u say Verizon reacted to AT&T, it still started with tmobile. Sorry but Verizon AT&T and sprint didn't just do these things for nothing. They reacted to tmobiles moves because they were successful. You like separating the phone from the plan, great you can credit tmobile for doing it before the other 3 on a postpaid level in the us
AT&T reacted in a big way to T-Mobile. Understandable since they're the ones getting the brunt of customer defections. T-Mobile isn't Verizon's primary competitor - AT&T is. If AT&T hadn't made a move, Verizon would have been perfectly content to maintain the status quo. Even with AT&T's drastic changes, Verizon has only made a half-hearted attempt to react with the $20 per line discount on EDGE.
However, it's early days yet. I reckon we can expect to see some changes near or after the next iPhone's launch.
Yeah they reacted. Like I said though it all started with tmobile. Directly or indirectly the other 3 carriers have reacted because of uncarrier. I don't see why this is hard to see. Actions speak louder than words
I just wanted to point something out for people wanting to switch via ETF paid. The total payout is $360 and that includes the trade in value of your phone. I do not know if that is 100% clear to everyone.
For example, say you trade in a phone worth $250 and you are switching very early into a contact with att/verizon and your ETF $200+. The most you would get for your ETF is $110 under that situation.
For example, say you trade in a phone worth $250 and you are switching very early into a contact with att/verizon and your ETF $200+. The most you would get for your ETF is $110 under that situation.
I read their terms differently:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10031
Maximum combined payout
If your phone still works
If you trade in a working eligible phone or device, the maximum trade-in value and ETF value is $650: Up to $300 per device for trade-in value and up to $350 per line for the ETF value.
If your current phone is broken
If you trade in a broken phone or device, the maximum trade-in value and ETF value is $350: a trade-in value of $0 and up to $350 for the ETF value.
Not true. The trade in credit is separate from the etf buyout. Trade in credits are on your bill/go toward down payment on phone. The etf is paid by a prepaid MasterCard sent to u within 1-2 billing cycles up to 350 etf per line.
I've seen people get upwards of 550+ in total by switching.
oh, well I am looking on the "switch2tmobile" website to follow my refund status and at the bottom it says the total amount is $350 and it adds my trade-in value to that total.
Total Payout (Trade-in Value + ETF) = $345
Up to $350 per line for eligible ETF reimbursement
I guess I read it wrong then, but it seems strange to put that right below my payout.
Yeah if u go to any tmobile store they can clarify, and if necessary fix any issues. But trade in credit is up to 300, etf is up to 350 in form of prepaid MasterCard.
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Hell there were a lot of people getting 550 total with some old blackberry cuz of the 200 credit given for trading in any blackberry phone
Interesting that T-Mobile says they plan to overlay their entire EDGE network with LTE by mid-2015.
What's even more interesting is that in the pat they always said this was not economically feasible due to their lack of low band spectrum. From what I've read, it seems that the 700mhz band isn't even a part of this announcement so what has changed now that it's all of a sudden affordable? Or were they just making excuses for all that EDGE coverage before?
What's even more interesting is that in the pat they always said this was not economically feasible due to their lack of low band spectrum. From what I've read, it seems that the 700mhz band isn't even a part of this announcement so what has changed now that it's all of a sudden affordable? Or were they just making excuses for all that EDGE coverage before?
The technology has drastically changed. It's in their best interest to run all LTE.
Excuse in my eyes. But i also think they needed that growth to make it a wise investment compared to before when they were losing customers. Either way, i'm happy it will get upgraded.
T-Mobile is growing and they need a network to backup the customers that are coming to T-Mobile. Plus, T-Mobile will be buying more low-frequency spectrum in the future and they are preparing the towers for low-frequency spectrum, including LTE and some HSPA+ upgrading from EDGE.
All in all this is awesome news and to all the naysayers out their who said "T-Mobile's coverage is crap" or "T-Mobile won't upgrade EDGE," tell me that again next year and watch how silly you sound.
T-Mobile is growing and they need a network to backup the customers that are coming to T-Mobile. Plus, T-Mobile will be buying more low-frequency spectrum in the future and they are preparing the towers for low-frequency spectrum, including LTE and some HSPA+ upgrading from EDGE.
All in all this is awesome news and to all the naysayers out their who said "T-Mobile's coverage is crap" or "T-Mobile won't upgrade EDGE," tell me that again next year and watch how silly you sound.
It's all about the coverage footprint more so than the speed at any latitude and longitude.
We have the failed merger with AT&T to thank for this. How much did T-Mobile get from that? $3 billion plus some spectrum?T-Mobile is growing and they need a network to backup the customers that are coming to T-Mobile. Plus, T-Mobile will be buying more low-frequency spectrum in the future and they are preparing the towers for low-frequency spectrum, including LTE and some HSPA+ upgrading from EDGE.
All in all this is awesome news and to all the naysayers out their who said "T-Mobile's coverage is crap" or "T-Mobile won't upgrade EDGE," tell me that again next year and watch how silly you sound.
It's surprising because T-Mobile doesn't really compete with AT&T. The few customers who will switch to a far inferior network for a lower price aren't great customers for AT&T anyways.
Verizon needs to open their network up. It's not hard to make devices that support CDMA/B13 LTE that could be SIM swappable on 3 or even 4 carriers, and would allow them to do fully BYOD like AT&T.
In what world does T-Mobile not compete with att?? I work for them, they may have the most customers but they certainly not the most efficient. The infrastructure needs a serious overhaul. Att still has way too much copper and coax, not nearly the amount of fiber that verzion and T-Mobile have. Explain how T-Mobile and att networks differ?? I'll wait!
We have the failed merger with AT&T to thank for this. How much did T-Mobile get from that? $3 billion plus some spectrum?
5 Billion I believe, and it went to help their LTE buildout. So.. not a bad deal.
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