Carrier T-Mobile is Fantastic!

[869639]

I agree, they will still have overall better coverage. T-Mobile claims to offer coverage to 96% of Americans (though a significantly higher percentage of that is EDGE or lower), while AT&T claims something like 98%, and Verizon 99%. This goes a long way towards closing the gap though.

Ya those % numbers just mean how much of the population can make a call on their network or by having service with them [be it on their own partner network]. Wait till the day they start advertising "Data covering 96% of americans" lol that will be the real deal.

 

[dmk1974]

That is exactly the problem. The launch day iphone 5 does not support all of the tmobile bands.

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/appl...bands-existing-devices-wont-have-aws-support/

Thanks, I see it now.

I do also have 2 16 GB iPhone 5 units. I think they should both work for T-Mobile (at the moment, only 1 of the 2 is unlocked but I have the unlock request in with AT&T for the 2nd one).

The 16 GB units have different model numbers. They both say A1428, but the MD/ME numbers listed are:

MD638LL/A
ME486LL/A

What is the difference???

 

[I7guy]

I would assume that someone's daily commute factors into "their needs" in a big way.

And the daily commute points to where people are likeliest to spend a big chunk of their time on any given day. The tieback to T-Mobile is that their service deficiencies apply in situations (i.e., non-metro areas) that are least likely to impact an average customer at a given moment. Even if you're traveling to some random US place, the odds are that you will wind up in a metro area, where T-Mobile coverage is generally good. If you must have rural service, even if you do not venture into those areas on a regular basis, then you pay for what you get.

With T-Mobile, you are not "stuck" into any agreement. Bring your own unlocked device, pop in a TMo SIM card, and you're good to go. If the service isn't to your liking, then cancel it and move the phone over to AT&T or any compatible MVNO service. It's really that simple. Having that option available is exactly why I went with TMo when I finally bought a smartphone last year.

I didn't even want to get into a debate on needs/requirements/wants. However, I get you don't understand why I would want Verizon on a 30 minute daily commute; where cheaper alternatives seemingly abound.

I don't want to have to worry about switching providers to get cell service, whether I'm in Miami, Winslow, AZ, or Lake Tahoe. I'm willing to pay more not to worry. I've been with Verizon for a long time and I like the customer service and cell service. My only purpose in this thread was that silly report that says T-Mobile has the fastest LTE service.

As I said previously I'm a data user and priced out a family plan on T-Mobile for four unlimited lines. It's only 15/mo cheaper than my current plan with 4 unlimited lines.

Why would I switch? I need new phones, would have to sell the old ones, etc. To save $180/yr for probable non-existent service at places I travel to.

 

[Woochifer]

I didn't even want to get into a debate on needs/requirements/wants. However, I get you don't understand why I would want Verizon on a 30 minute daily commute; where cheaper alternatives seemingly abound.

I don't want to have to worry about switching providers to get cell service, whether I'm in Miami, Winslow, AZ, or Lake Tahoe. I'm willing to pay more not to worry. I've been with Verizon for a long time and I like the customer service and cell service. My only purpose in this thread was that silly report that says T-Mobile has the fastest LTE service.

As I said previously I'm a data user and priced out a family plan on T-Mobile for four unlimited lines. It's only 15/mo cheaper than my current plan with 4 unlimited lines.

Why would I switch? I need new phones, would have to sell the old ones, etc. To save $180/yr for probable non-existent service at places I travel to.

Oh, I perfectly get that you're willing to pay more for more blanket coverage. My point is simply that for the majority of use cases, the advantages of a larger network do not apply. If you want more assurance of coverage no matter where you go, that's your call.

My original post simply answered your questioning of "fact" that most people at any given time are not far from where they live. And most people live in within the metro areas where TMo does not have significant coverage gaps.

No one's trying to convince you to switch, but when you use terms like "stuck once you enter into an agreement" and "probable non-existent service" you're no longer working within the rhelm of reality.

BTW, I just checked that a four-line family plan with unlimited high-speed data on TMo costs $180/month. Which carrier offers the same thing for $195/month? Verizon charges $260/month for four lines and 10 GB of shared data with no BYOD discount, Sprint charges $240/month for four lines and unlimited data, and AT&T charges $160/month for four lines with 10 GB of shared data (data overages apply). For four lines and 2.5 GB of high-speed data (unlimited throttled data) per line, TMo charges $140/month. These are not necessarily the same thing because the TMo and AT&T rates are BYOD no-contract plans, but that's how the market stacks up at the moment.

 

[I7guy]

Oh, I perfectly get that you're willing to pay more for more blanket coverage. My point is simply that for the majority of use cases, the advantages of a larger network do not apply. If you want more assurance of coverage no matter where you go, that's your call.

My original post simply answered your questioning of "fact" that most people at any given time are not far from where they live. And most people live in within the metro areas where TMo does not have significant coverage gaps.

No one's trying to convince you to switch, but when you use terms like "stuck once you enter into an agreement" and "probable non-existent service" you're no longer working within the rhelm of reality.

BTW, I just checked that a four-line family plan with unlimited high-speed data on TMo costs $180/month. Which carrier offers the same thing for $195/month? Verizon charges $260/month for four lines and 10 GB of shared data with no BYOD discount, Sprint charges $240/month for four lines and unlimited data, and AT&T charges $160/month for four lines with 10 GB of shared data (data overages apply). For four lines and 2.5 GB of high-speed data (unlimited throttled data) per line, TMo charges $140/month. These are not necessarily the same thing because the TMo and AT&T rates are BYOD no-contract plans, but that's how the market stacks up at the moment.

I'm in a grandfathered plan that one can no longer get. For the foreseeable future that's where I'm staying.

You don't agree you can jump carriers at a moments notice without it being a significant expense? Sure you can try 'em out once for 14 days, but pay restocking fees and the like. There's only so many go arounds. In addition, my friend with tmobile complains of coverage loss in the burbs at places where I get good service. That's the realm of reality.

 

[lshirase]

My 5s bill last month cost me $79. I used 33gb of data as I watched a couple of champions league matches via fox soccer 2go app. I stream podcasts on the regular.

I also used bbm, fb, twitter, and gpswhile hanging out in Vancouver bc. Texts too of course.

I love tmobile. You coverage nerds who seem to live and die by cell coverage can argue all you want.

You better be a Real Madrid supporter 😉

 

[JackieInCo]

Hmmm, you sound like AutoUnion's best friend. 😀

I've heard Autounion say the same exact words. I would not doubt if he and this person are the same person.

 

[osofast240sx]

Help to buy a mobile phone?
hey guys! i am thinking of buying a mobile... i need the features of ANDROID,DUAL SIM,GOOD CAM................budget is 10000-11000. i am thinking of buying Motorola defy mini xt321....please suggest me good mobiles..dual Sim is most important

iPhone 6

 

[JackieInCo]

Help to buy a mobile phone?
hey guys! i am thinking of buying a mobile... i need the features of ANDROID,DUAL SIM,GOOD CAM................budget is 10000-11000. i am thinking of buying Motorola defy mini xt321....please suggest me good mobiles..dual Sim is most important

Since you are asking this in the iPhone forum, my suggestion is the iPhone 5S or wait for the 6 in the fall.

 

[BiggAW]

Really don't need u to believe it. Yeah u seem like a troll. Again because of tmobile the other 3 are changing their services. I know it kills u to think a lowly carrier with only 40+million can affect the us industry as a whole but that's exactly what's happening. Again, why are u in this thread? If u want start your own saying how much you think tmobile sucks.

Just saying it like it is. AT&T started this whole thing about actually paying attention to T-Mobile. I'm very surprised that they did, as T-Mobile is not a credible threat to Verizon or AT&T.

 

[Truefan31]

Just saying it like it is. AT&T started this whole thing about actually paying attention to T-Mobile. I'm very surprised that they did, as T-Mobile is not a credible threat to Verizon or AT&T.

Obviously AT&T and Verizon disagree with you now don't they?

 

[I7guy]

Obviously AT&T and Verizon disagree with you now don't they?

I don't think they do, especially verizon.

 

[Truefan31]

T-Mobile is Fantastic!

I don't think they do, especially verizon.

Then next and edge would've never existed... It's ok I know people don't wanna admit that because of tmobile the other carriers are changing their services too. In the long run it's good for everyone.

 

[I7guy]

Then next and edge would've never existed... It's ok I know people don't wanna admit that because of tmobile the other carriers are changing their services too. In the long run it's good for everyone.

I can't admit anything because I don't know, all I can do is surmise...like you. Anything we say is opinion based not fact based, unless some exec admits to it.

 

[Truefan31]

T-Mobile is Fantastic!

I can't admit anything because I don't know, all I can do is surmise...like you. Anything we say is opinion based not fact based, unless some exec admits to it.

Ok. So your opinion is that tmobiles uncarrier, jump, phase 3 and 4, and the success they've gotten has nothing to do with AT&T, Verizon and sprint changing their services, which are trying to be similar to tmobiles? cuz I believe the other 3 wouldn't have done these things if it wasn't for tmobile doing it first in the us.

Again overall it's good for everyone. But to say AT&T and Verizon don't care about tmobile contradicts what they've done recently.

 

[I7guy]

Ok. So your opinion is that tmobiles uncarrier, jump, phase 3 and 4, and the success they've gotten has nothing to do with AT&T, Verizon and sprint changing their services, which are trying to be similar to tmobiles? cuz I believe the other 3 wouldn't have done these things if it wasn't for tmobile doing it first in the us.

Again overall it's good for everyone. But to say AT&T and Verizon don't care about tmobile contradicts what they've done recently.

Companies often mull things over for a time before releasing new products or services. You don't know for certain if verizon was influenced or not by the actions of any other carrier in this instance. Edge released at the time they did might have been in the planned stages all along rather than a rush to match tmobile. First quarter financials are going to be interesting.

 

[CEmajr]

Companies often mull things over for a time before releasing new products or services. You don't know for certain if verizon was influenced or not by the actions of any other carrier in this instance. Edge released at the time they did might have been in the planned stages all along rather than a rush to match tmobile. First quarter financials are going to be interesting.

Yep because we all know AT&T and Verizon just dropped their prices out of the goodness of their hearts because they love their customers. It's a direct result of the competitive pressure that was put upon them in 2013. Especially AT&T with their declining growth that year.

 

[Truefan31]

T-Mobile is Fantastic!

Companies often mull things over for a time before releasing new products or services. You don't know for certain if verizon was influenced or not by the actions of any other carrier in this instance. Edge released at the time they did might have been in the planned stages all along rather than a rush to match tmobile. First quarter financials are going to be interesting.

I really hope you don't think AT&T Verizon and sprint did all these things out of the goodness of their hearts. And even if what u say is true tmobile did it first, and was successful. Hence the others follow. Just proves my point even more that tmobile has affected the other carriers.

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Yep because we all know AT&T and Verizon just dropped their prices out of the goodness of their hearts because they love their customers. It's a direct result of the competitive pressure that was put upon them in 2013. Especially AT&T with their declining growth that year.

It's so funny that people wanna tear tmobile down, like they're not important enough for the others to pay attention to. Yet the other carriers change their services and offerings to reflect and mimic the things tmobile has done before them.

Again it's good for everyone in the long run. But people should really stop being so naive. Tmobile is the reason why the us carriers have changed. People should credit tmobile for having more options than ever.

 

[I7guy]

Yep because we all know AT&T and Verizon just dropped their prices out of the goodness of their hearts because they love their customers. It's a direct result of the competitive pressure that was put upon them in 2013. Especially AT&T with their declining growth that year.

Nobody can prove this one way or another, at least nobody that claims to be an analyst with verizon. Verizon is different as they showed year end growth.

 

[Truefan31]

Nobody can prove this one way or another, at least nobody that claims to be an analyst with verizon. Verizon is different as they showed year end growth.

Lol ok. I know, u don't wanna admit that tmobile changed the other carriers approaches. Again everyone benefits in the long run, but it shows by your posts that you'd rather stick to the technicality of a "fact". Like any executive will say "oh yeah tmobile made us have to save money for customers." But in this case actions speak louder than words. Tmobile started first while the others waited. They saw success, they reacted.

This is why I hope sprint and tmobile don't merge. It's competition that caused prices to lower, and increase choice for consumers.

 

[JackieInCo]

How exactly did AT&T lower their prices? It now would cost me over $100 to get one iPhone activated on AT&T where it used to cost just over $70.

 

[Retired Cat]

It's so funny that people wanna tear tmobile down, like they're not important enough for the others to pay attention to. Yet the other carriers change their services and offerings to reflect and mimic the things tmobile has done before them.

Again it's good for everyone in the long run. But people should really stop being so naive. Tmobile is the reason why the us carriers have changed. People should credit tmobile for having more options than ever.

I too have not understood why some people here hate T-Mobile so much. Every wireless carrier has pros and cons, and for many customers, T-Mobile's service is a good deal.

Competition and innovation benefits consumers.

 

[I7guy]

Lol ok. I know, u don't wanna admit that tmobile changed the other carriers approaches. Again everyone benefits in the long run, but it shows by your posts that you'd rather stick to the technicality of a "fact". Like any executive will say "oh yeah tmobile made us have to save money for customers." But in this case actions speak louder than words. Tmobile started first while the others waited. They saw success, they reacted.

This is why I hope sprint and tmobile don't merge. It's competition that caused prices to lower, and increase choice for consumers.

Price wars are price wars and to a certain extent the consumers do benefit, unless service goes down with the price. Then it's not really a win/win. It's lower your price point for pay less/get less.

But you don't want to admit you might not be 100% in thinking cause and effect. 😎

Tmobile is worth it if it works for you. But I laugh when people downplay the fact that ATT and Verizon have more coverage by the square miles and then say most people on ATT and Verizon don't leave their home area.

If that is that the case over time tmobile will be a clear winner and Verizon and ATT will bleed customers because most people live in cities and never the leave the cities for areas where tmobile has no coverage.

 

[JackieInCo]

Another reason I love T-Mobile. Two weeks into my billing cycle and I have not been throttled yet. Most of this is from tethering.

 

[Truefan31]

Price wars are price wars and to a certain extent the consumers do benefit, unless service goes down with the price. Then it's not really a win/win. It's lower your price point for pay less/get less.



But you don't want to admit you might not be 100% in thinking cause and effect. 😎



Tmobile is worth it if it works for you. But I laugh when people downplay the fact that ATT and Verizon have more coverage by the square miles and then say most people on ATT and Verizon don't leave their home area.



If that is that the case over time tmobile will be a clear winner and Verizon and ATT will bleed customers because most people live in cities and never the leave the cities for areas where tmobile has no coverage.

Uh I understand cause and effect. And I never said tmobile coverage is better than AT&T or Verizon. What I'm saying is that tmobiles aggressive moves has caused the other carriers to react and change their services. There's no way IMO that next, edge, framily, mobile value share, etc would be here if tmobile didn't successfully introduce uncarrier.