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T-Mobile To Offer Android-Based Phone By Christmas
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Yeah they stink...Most companies wish they could suck so bad.
You say that like it can magically pull any software you can imagine out of thin air. You, (as a consumer,) can not do anything you want with it. Like the iPhone, or any OS, for that matter, that software has to be created. I understand that your definition of "anything" refers to not having a company oversee and allow certain applications or allow you to manipulate certain aspects of a device, but that's a far cry from the literal term.
From a developer's standpoint, you, (the developer,) can do anything you can figure out how to create with it. That goes for any platform. Technically, you, (as a developer,) can do anything you want with the iPhone. Apple just might not let you put it on their store and in that case, you'll have to target the breakers.
So, no, no overlords passing judgement on your apps, be they useful, useless, expensive, malicious, pornographic, or whatever. Unless T-Mobile tightens the reigns on their supposed App Store. That's the thing. Until it exists in the consumer's palm, there's no way to compare it to anything we've got now.
Open source is great for development purposes, and I understand that this means that a manufacturer or developer can tweak the OS and apps to their liking and preferences. However, as a consumer, I've yet to see a wide variety of open source software that trumps closed source software, created by a large, integrated, and experienced organization who either created their own source, or at least heavily expanded upon open source (e.g., Darwin.)
To me, that's its Achilles Heel. I used to be in favor of hacking and customizing. But now I just want things to work when I need them to. Apple has created an impressive interface with the iPhone/Touch. The native apps all work flawlessly and for the most part do exactly what I need them to do. The 3rd party apps so far have been hit or miss; some work well and some don't. Some match the elegance of Apple's design and some don't. Without a strong helmsman to sort the wheat from the chaff, Android has the potential to be a gigantic mess.
Oh, and that hardware in the video didn't excite me. The screen appeared unresponsive in some shots. And that interface reminded me of a Windows desktop.
It is automatically always better than other phones.
Blackberries are butt ugly. UI makes me want to vomit. Maybe they should hire an industrial designer that doesn't work for Play Skool.
Windoze mobile is beyond bad. Windoze doesn't even work on the desk top. Does anyone really think its going to work on a phone? Give my a break. Its borderline unusable.
This Android thing is great for one group of people, Linux geeks. You really think these jokers are going to beat Apple? The linux world has proved that a totally open platform pretty much sucks. Its a nice hobby for people with no life.
A bit harsh. Whilst very few people in the FOSS world seem to have even the slightest grasp of usability, various Linux distros make great web/application servers. Linux has proved it's worth in the enterprise.
Provided consumers/businesses really want that?
I appreciate open source, but the evidence is that quite often they don't.
Open source doesn't mean better. There is good open source code and bad open source code. Same with proprietary, commercial code.
i'm psyched to see how the android phone(s) play(s) out... while i don't see myself giving up my iphone anytime soon, it's SO nice to see that phone manufacturers and phone software developers are trying their hardest to compete. i can't wait for the days when the current motorola/sony ericsson/nokia software is phased out for something a lot more manageable and user friendly. the iphone and (hopefully) android are HUGE steps for the cell phone industry.
i have to disagree... while this video is pretty much crap, the first "leaked" videos of the android user interface is really nice, and really user-friendly, as well. it's "pretty", if you will... and it's not going to be the type of interface that requires one to have a masters in computer tech to navigate around it.
while i agree that the iphone is amazing and hard to beat, i have the feeling that android has the potential to come in a very close second place.
Android Vs. Iphone
It seems to me that Android will be the PC-like (more open aka too many 3rd parties involved and invited) version of Apple's ("it just works") iphone. Would you rather buy a PC or a Mac?
It seems to me that Android will be the PC-like (more open aka too many 3rd parties involved and invited) version of Apple's ("it just works") iphone. Would you rather buy a PC or a Mac?
Yeah, what's that other example that proves a totally open platform sucks and is just a nice hobby for people with no life...?
Oh yeah, that's right. The Internet.
Agreed
Agreed, Apple will have to work harder to kick-ass!
The iPhone will get better, quicker!
Agreed, Apple will have to work harder to kick-ass!
The iPhone will get better, quicker!
Hey everyone, I'm pretty much new to these forums, but I've been reading for a while now :]
However, the one thing I don't like (actually, the one thing a I hate) is how quickly Mac loyalists are to bash other companies and their accomplishments and automatically assume they're just copying Apple. Yeah, apple is a great company but it's far from perfect.
To be honest, I've always preferred Android ever since it was announced, although I do like the iPhone. I'm really looking forward to it's release, because those developers have designed some amazing software.
Sorry for the potentially harsh words, but I one of my biggest pet peeves is closed minded people.
However, the one thing I don't like (actually, the one thing a I hate) is how quickly Mac loyalists are to bash other companies and their accomplishments and automatically assume they're just copying Apple. Yeah, apple is a great company but it's far from perfect.
To be honest, I've always preferred Android ever since it was announced, although I do like the iPhone. I'm really looking forward to it's release, because those developers have designed some amazing software.
Sorry for the potentially harsh words, but I one of my biggest pet peeves is closed minded people.
Sure, absolutely.
So has pretty much everyone else in the business.
Dream and Android
Android is somewhat of a rip-off of the iPhone OS, but has a little bit of a windows look and feel. Lots o' bugs so far. (simalar to vista copy of OSX)
The dream is cheap and flimsy. The screen has a texture to it and gets pretty dirty.
Android is somewhat of a rip-off of the iPhone OS, but has a little bit of a windows look and feel. Lots o' bugs so far. (simalar to vista copy of OSX)
The dream is cheap and flimsy. The screen has a texture to it and gets pretty dirty.
Thanks for the link. It looks really good to me and definitely has potential. The only thing is no iPod. However, nothing out there really matches the iPod feature in a phone. My other issue is that the phone is supposed to make full use of 3G and T-Mobile barely has a 3G network. Hopefully, they'll have it unlocked shortly after it's release.
Android is somewhat of a rip-off of the iPhone OS, but has a little bit of a windows look and feel. Lots o' bugs so far. (simalar to vista copy of OSX)
The dream is cheap and flimsy. The screen has a texture to it and gets pretty dirty.
Wow that's a sexy pic. Where'd you get that?
I find Linux very usable on the desktop, actually. I have Ubuntu installed on my iMac, and it works very well, despite being a nine year old computer.
I think the evidence is that consumers do want that, given the number of people with jailbroken iPhones. Maybe that's gone down a lot with the introduction of the app store, but I think there's still a significant segment of the population that wants to be able to run whatever they want, and not have to worry about someone changing the firmware on them to make it harder. That said, only time will tell how good the quality of the experience is, and except for the super hackers, that is what's going to determine how well the platform does.
I don't know about this, the OS looks rather wooden and sluggish. It is almost like he is working with cardboard. The phone itself doesn't look like anything special either. I don't know Google, show me the magic or I am going iPhone.