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If the carriers are worried that people interpret the word wrong... maybe they should pick a new word.
Why would they need to pick a new word(s)? They're advertising unlimited data, not unlimited high speed data

Unlimited Data ≠ Unlimited High Speed Data
 
T-Mobile is not encouraging me to ditch my Sprint Unlimited Freedom plan.

It should be interesting to see what happens next year when they're pushing everyone into the same situation. They've already been encouraging me to swap my SIM card for a T-Mobile SIM but locally, T-Mobile has been very weak, and I'd rather not get pulled into that until the very last moment.
T-Mobile wants you to swap SIM card because Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile wants to move Sprint customers off that network before they shut it down and repurpose the frequencies. If you have an iPhone, you will still be able to access the Sprint network after you swap SIM card on top of T-Mobile's network. That means better coverage and access to 5G network too (if you have an iPhone 12)

 
Why would they need to pick a new word(s)? They're advertising unlimited data, not unlimited high speed data

Unlimited Data ≠ Unlimited High Speed Data

Oh I know what they mean. Yes... they're referring to the amount of data... not the speed of data.

But calling something "Unlimited" and then saying "actually there are some limits" is kinda silly.

The fact that they have to make a new plan and say "this one is truly unlimited" is exactly what was wrong with calling the older plans "unlimited"

Anyway... we've been down this road before. We'll bitch about it on forums for a few days and then we'll move on with life. My dinner is ready. Peace. :)
 
Please understand that I am not trying to judge anyone. I am just trying to understand.

I am on the T-Mobile Connect Prepaid Plan with 2 GB of data for $15 per month. I find that 2 GB of data is plenty for me on a phone. I have Verizon Fios at home and an enterprise grade broadband internet connection at work.

The only way I can see anyone using over 10 GB of data a month is with video. But that is a lot of video to be watching on a phone.

If it works for you, great. But I'm just trying to understand how people use so much data on a phone.
 
Please understand that I am not trying to judge anyone. I am just trying to understand.

I am on the T-Mobile Connect Prepaid Plan with 2 GB of data for $15 per month. I find that 2 GB of data is plenty for me on a phone. I have Verizon Fios at home and an enterprise grade broadband internet connection at work.

The only way I can see anyone using over 10 GB of data a month is with video. But that is a lot of video to be watching on a phone.

If it works for you, great. But I'm just trying to understand how people use so much data on a phone.
A lot of people on the forum live on their phone. It is the main computing device, even though they may have an iPad or Mac. They watch videos, use social media, texts, and surf the web every chance they get. It can add up quickly.
 
Wonder if you can move an activated SIM over to WWAN tablet or laptop.
No, you cannot. They check the IMEI of the device a SIM is inserted in. SIMs activated on a phone plan and inserted into a hotspot, laptop, tablet, or any other MI device will result in no service + an automatic text message from T-Mobile that this is not allowed and your rate plan will automatically be modified to the more expensive MI plan.
I was wondering the same thing. I guess you can always manually edit your MAC to make it look like it’s an iPhone if they check that.
MAC Addresses are for Wi-Fi. You’re thinking of modifying (“burning” as it was called back in the day) the IMEI, which is a felony.
 
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Capped @ 40 for hotspot is not unlimited. Just more BS.
Indeed. I wonder what they will call it when they remove the hotspot cap: “No, Really Truly Unlimited”. Undoubtedly, the word “unlimited” in advertising lingo has two meanings. And undoubtedly so, not doubtedly ...
 
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T-Mobile wants you to swap SIM card because Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile wants to move Sprint customers off that network before they shut it down and repurpose the frequencies. If you have an iPhone, you will still be able to access the Sprint network after you swap SIM card on top of T-Mobile's network. That means better coverage and access to 5G network too (if you have an iPhone 12)

When I talk to someone on T-Mobile, I can't understand much of what they're saying because they have horrible voice quality. I experienced this with their predecessor VoiceStream. I don't make many voice calls but I would like to be able to understand the person on the other end, and for them to be able to understand me.

As I mentioned, T-Mobile is awful here, so I would have to be on Sprint's network to get good service. Every time I ask a local T-Mobile user about their service, they can't tell me anything good.
 
I currently have magenta military, and I pay for 30gb of hotspot, I called and magenta max military will give me true unlimited and 10 extra gb's of hotspot for $5.00 less per month😁 win win for me!
 
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Please understand that I am not trying to judge anyone. I am just trying to understand.

I am on the T-Mobile Connect Prepaid Plan with 2 GB of data for $15 per month. I find that 2 GB of data is plenty for me on a phone. I have Verizon Fios at home and an enterprise grade broadband internet connection at work.

The only way I can see anyone using over 10 GB of data a month is with video. But that is a lot of video to be watching on a phone.

If it works for you, great. But I'm just trying to understand how people use so much data on a phone.
im a truck driver and away from home a lot! I've already used 70 gb this month! watch one nascar race and its like 20gb
 
When I talk to someone on T-Mobile, I can't understand much of what they're saying because they have horrible voice quality. I experienced this with their predecessor VoiceStream. I don't make many voice calls but I would like to be able to understand the person on the other end, and for them to be able to understand me.

As I mentioned, T-Mobile is awful here, so I would have to be on Sprint's network to get good service. Every time I ask a local T-Mobile user about their service, they can't tell me anything good.
Same with any provider, it really depends on where you are. TMo here rocks
 

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Please understand that I am not trying to judge anyone. I am just trying to understand.

I am on the T-Mobile Connect Prepaid Plan with 2 GB of data for $15 per month. I find that 2 GB of data is plenty for me on a phone. I have Verizon Fios at home and an enterprise grade broadband internet connection at work.

The only way I can see anyone using over 10 GB of data a month is with video. But that is a lot of video to be watching on a phone.

If it works for you, great. But I'm just trying to understand how people use so much data on a phone.
Not everyone has access to high speed home internet/broadband. Some might only have access to dial-up or 3 to 6 Mbps DSL. For a long time, I was stuck on 6 Mbps DSL until I moved.

Some people are on the road for work or live on the road (e.g. retired people living in an RV) and need a hotspot.

I would imagine these people easily use 20GB+ a month.

If I still only had access to 6 Mbps DSL, I'd dump that and just use mobile data.
 
I am happy on spectrum mobile with $28 a month for 2 lines and 2GB and now an apple watch with unlimited data for $10. We don’t go over 2GB but if we ever get to take a trip again, we might and it’s just $14 more per GB shared. And that is taxes and fees included. Even with our payment plan for an iPhone 12 we pay less that $75 per month.
 
The context in which the term is used by the carriers is correct. The problem is MR people expect their definition of the word to be applied out of proper context.

Unlimited simply means no data cap. It has never meant unlimited speed, which is entirely different than unlimited data.

I think the confusion comes from how T-Mobile used to treat it’s data buckets. During the Simple Choice era, you would pay for different data buckets (2 gb, 6 gb, etc) but the way T-Mobile treated those limits was different than other carriers at the time. They always told us (at the time) that what happens after you use up your data is that you get throttled, so no overage fees. At the time, other carriers would charge fees to the point that heavy data users could end up with mobile phone bills that were astronomical. But T-Mobile said “we won’t do that, we’ll just throttle your speed to something like 2G instead.”

In recent years, they have dropped that and gone with full speed unlimited data. I still use Simple Choice, but a couple years ago, they grandfathered us all in to the unlimited data at full speed deal and changed the data “buckets” to apply to our mobile hotspot data instead (summer of 2019, IIRC...it was here on MR that I found out about it).

I may not get HD or 4k Netflix with SC, but I hardly ever watch it without WiFi so it’s no big deal. I like what we’ve got and won’t be switching. Now, if they can roll device data for things like iPads and watches into that $57/mo deal, then I’m all over it. But I doubt they’ll do that anytime soon, if at all.
 
Please understand that I am not trying to judge anyone. I am just trying to understand.

I am on the T-Mobile Connect Prepaid Plan with 2 GB of data for $15 per month. I find that 2 GB of data is plenty for me on a phone. I have Verizon Fios at home and an enterprise grade broadband internet connection at work.

The only way I can see anyone using over 10 GB of data a month is with video. But that is a lot of video to be watching on a phone.

If it works for you, great. But I'm just trying to understand how people use so much data on a phone.

My spouse used to do a lot on facebook and would easily “burn” through 2 gb in less than a month. If you post a lot of pictures and videos on social media, that will eat through data pretty quick.

I also use hotspot a lot when traveling since hotels often times have spotty wifi or annoying logons that make you log back in every time your device locks. Plus, sometimes the hotspot on my phone is faster than the hotel wifi.
 
I know what the carriers are referring to.

But as I said in my edit: It's silly to keep saying "there are no limits but actually there are limits"

If the carriers are worried that people interpret the word wrong... maybe they should pick a new word.
Anyone with common sense will realize that unlimited means how much you use not the speed you use it at.

when I go to a buffet I understand all you can eat refers to how much I can and will eat....at the restaurant. Obviously I can, will , and need to eat till I die. Should I be mad the buffet won’t let me take food home to go?

again, common sense
 
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T-Mobile is not encouraging me to ditch my Sprint Unlimited Freedom plan.

It should be interesting to see what happens next year when they're pushing everyone into the same situation. They've already been encouraging me to swap my SIM card for a T-Mobile SIM but locally, T-Mobile has been very weak, and I'd rather not get pulled into that until the very last moment.
Lol you do realize you’re already on T-Mobile network
 
Anyone with common sense will realize that unlimited means how much you use not the speed you use it at.

when I go to a buffet I understand all you can eat refers to how much I can and will eat....at the restaurant. Obviously I can, will , and need to eat till I die. Should I be mad the buffet won’t let me take food home to go?

again, common sense

I'm gonna bookmark your comment and repost it the next time this topic comes up.

Because it will... :p
 
Not everyone has access to high speed home internet/broadband. Some might only have access to dial-up or 3 to 6 Mbps DSL. For a long time, I was stuck on 6 Mbps DSL until I moved.

Some people are on the road for work or live on the road (e.g. retired people living in an RV) and need a hotspot.

I would imagine these people easily use 20GB+ a month.

If I still only had access to 6 Mbps DSL, I'd dump that and just use mobile data.

Welp, if you don't have high speed access at your home in 2021, I guess it's time to find a new place to live... Perhaps where civilization is. In my area, even rural spots have access to high speed data.
 
As I mentioned, T-Mobile is awful here, so I would have to be on Sprint's network to get good service. Every time I ask a local T-Mobile user about their service, they can't tell me anything good.
That sucks. I have hiked the Appalachian and Rockies and never had quality issues other than a few dead spots that were fixed by taking a few steps. No issue in Houston, LA, or Boston either. Curious where you are that you have a signal but poor quality.
 
That sucks. I have hiked the Appalachian and Rockies and never had quality issues other than a few dead spots that were fixed by taking a few steps. No issue in Houston, LA, or Boston either. Curious where you are that you have a signal but poor quality.
I'm about 70 miles east of San Francisco, CA. Sprint is good, AT&T is good, Verizon is okay, and T-Mobile is mostly okay

The voice problems were the same with T-Mobile customers no matter where I've been. It's the reason I never wanted another GSM phone. I tried AT&T/Cingular prepaid for a while and experienced a lot of dropped calls, so I remained on Sprint for 20 years.
 
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