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I'm really considering switching from Straight Talk to the T-mobile prepaid $30 deal, but two things are stopping me:

1) No 1900Mhz service map. Right now I have no clue what areas are 3G and which are EDGE, and it seems like nobody else does either. If my office was covered by 3G here in Bethesda it would probably be enough for me to switch since wifi and EDGE would work fine near home. Nobody can tell me what the local coverage is like on the 1900 Mhz band, though.
2) No micro SIM cards for prepaid. Yes, I know you can trim the normal cards (and I have a cutter somewhere). It just strikes me that they aren't really serious about BYOD if they can't get this detail right. I may stop in at one of their retail stores next time I see one and ask if they can sell one, but they don't offer them online.

1) Coverage should be close in bethesda - if not already live. Check out user submitted http://www.airportal.de/
2) You can get micro-sims in store. Plenty sell them on Ebay as well.
 
AT&T, what are you doing on the boad?

Quite the contrary, I think the 2 year contracts are just awful, they sell you all you can eat buffet of things you don't need (minutes!) and cap you on the things that you actually need (data). And oh yea, AT&T screw their customers who leave them by basically never prorating their last month.

I'd rather switch back to landlines than ever going to this evil company again, I hop they go bankrupt.

Let's not forget VZW is has higher smartphone costs than AT$T. If Verizon had an S in their company name, they would get TWO $$.

Anyway, VZW did have their unlimited data plan but won't give you a 'subsidized' new phone and let you keep that same data plan. To my understanding, AT$T did not follow that same strategy--at least not yet. And they BOTH throttle data speeds after a certain point, regardless if you have unlimited or not.

But you are right, AT&T and VZW screw customers over on data since they know we are in a digital era and times have changed to where we, as people, do not gab on phones like we had 3 years ago. It's all text and web now. DATA is where the money is at these days. Why do you think all the plans changed to where data was just an add-on?

if Tmo and Sprint had a larger network in my area, I'd switch to one of them with a new smartphone without hesitation.
 
T-Mobile has the right plan to increase their customer base.

I'll bet many, if not most of their current and potential customers don't care about 3G or 4G as long as they have the basics (calls and text) covered for cheap when they're out and about, and can then use the other iPhone features when on Wifi. My family is like this.

I unlocked my AT&T iPhone 4 last week in preps for giving it to my wife when I upgrade to the iPhone 5. She doesn't want to leave T-Mobile and only uses apps when on Wifi (mostly at home).
 
But there are a lot of 4's out there that are about to become available. I'm upgrading to 5 when it comes out and I will have an AT&T 4 that is in perfectly good shape. I'm well past my two year contract and I can go off contract. I will actually stay with AT&T with the 5, so my 4 should be unlocked, right? Is there a way I can unlock it without having bought the phone for $600 in the first place?

You can have AT&T unlock your phone (or use the online form).

T-Mobile is pushing for that market. Your unlocked iPhone 4 is a good buy for someone looking to have an iPhone in T-mobile for a lot lower price per month than they would have with AT&T. Or at least that's what T-Mobile hopes.

For people looking to sell their unlocked 4's this is a good thing.
 
HSPA+ was deemed '4G' after AT&T and T-Mobile wailed about it. LTE isn't even 4G. It's 3.9G. You have to go to LTE Advanced and 100+ Mbps to get true 4G.

And T-Mobile will roll out LTE-A next year (hoping the iPhone has LTE-A capibilities).
 
I'm all for carrier diversity but T-Mobile just seems desperate. Their commercials are already annoying

Desperate? It's called being proactive. Taking the lemons of no apple deal and making the lemonade of increased customers and revenue to the extent possible. That is the function of any business: increasing revenue at every opportunity.
 
I live in NYC, my iPhone 4 on t- mobile is 99.99 for two lines unlimited talk text and data. In certain parts of PA my phone automatically goes to 3G I seen speeds over 6 mbps. So I can imagine the 4G will be 3 times as fast.
 
I get preferring iOS, but it still kinda boggles my mind that people are willing to settle for EDGE speeds on T-Mobile when the Galaxy Nexus is HSPA+ compatible and just $350 unlocked (with guaranteed updates since it's from the Play Store).

In any case, good for T-Mobile doing what they can under the circumstances. I doubt they *wanted* to have an incompatible frequency to begin with.
 
$70 is still more than what I pay already with AT&T before taxes (albeit not for unlimited text and data). Almost everyone I text has an iPhone, so I don't pay for unlimited text. Everywhere I go there is WiFi, so I pay for the 300MB option and never come close. I pay about $50 before taxes...:cool:
 
What about visual voicemail? Does that work with T-Mobile?

While I do believe T-Mobile has something like Visual Voicemail (but can't swear, since I don't use it), I long ago (while I was still on AT&T + iPhones) switched to Google Voice for voicemail.

With Google Voice, you not only get visual voicemail, but you also get email notifications with the voicemail, as well a transcript.

It's way better than using Visual Voicemail or any other mobile voicemail scheme, plus you can check it even if you don't have your phone (and it's free :)
 
If you buy an iphone for full price will it come unlocked? I currently have an ATT contract but only for about 6 more months. How possible will it be for me to use att for the last 6 months of my contract and then go somewhere else with my phone?

You'd have to buy the unlocked ATT version. Use it for 6 months then just go to a T-Mobile store and your finished. I've had a painless transition.
 
1) Coverage should be close in bethesda - if not already live. Check out user submitted http://www.airportal.de/
2) You can get micro-sims in store. Plenty sell them on Ebay as well.

That map is actually really useful, thanks. If the coverage ranges are accurate there's a tower that should cover my office already, but based on single reports I'll have to try them out.

We'll see how it goes in-store. There seem to be mixed reports of people having great success, and others being charged random amount ranging from reasonable to outrageous to flat out being denied since the4y want to activate the online-only plan. Still,having to find a retail T-mobile place just to get a card is a big of a hassle considering they'll ship normal cards for $1. I don't trust the eBay sim cards not to be just cut-down normal sims, and 2 badly cut sims has been enough that I try to avoid them.
 
What about visual voicemail? Does that work with T-Mobile?

From the article:

We're also developing iOS versions of helpful T-Mobile applications like T-Mobile myAccount, T-Mobile Visual Voicemail and T-Mobile TV (we already offer an iOS version of our popular Bobsled application).

T-Mobile's version of Visual Voicemail is different from Apple's, but with their own app to support it, I'd imagine it'd work well enough.

jW
 
The lame part about those plans is that you're signing a 2 year contract, but instead of getting a subsidy you get cheaper service.

And yes, the new plans being advertised as unlimited come with almost 1TB of bandwidth a month - indeed, not quite unlimited! The old 'unlimited' plans are apparently also unlimited now, but the plans advertised as 5GB plans are still 5GB plans.

I thought cheaper rates instead of a subsidy, such that you could go buy any unlocked phone.. were things people wanted! I mean.. I didn't want it with a contract either (seriously, T-Mobile, wtf?) but the rates are pretty good.
 
iPhone 2g

Interesting. Since AT&T is no longer allowing activations of the iPhone 2g, I suppose I could give that ancient item to a family member (who, generally, could not care less about mobile phones and technology) and they could use it as a prepay phone on Tmobile (assuming Tmobile is still allowing activations of the 2g).
 
If C-Spire and a bunch of smaller carriers can strike a deal, T-Mobile can, too. Sprint was desperate, since it was losing customers and had an inferior network. The settlement with AT&T left T-Mobile in a little bit stronger position, even though they are smaller than Sprint.

That's very different. C-spire is small with smallish (native) coverage area. A deal they strike with Apple would naturally be smaller than the deal Tmobile would have to make (again- see Sprint's deal).

I'm confident EVERY U.S. company- national & regional- would love to have the iPhone in their offerings. Apple just won't give them a deal good enough to go for it. Instead, Apple flexes and each player must decide if the risk (of Apple's deal demand vs. potential loss of customers to other carriers with iPhone) is worth it. It's not really about us consumers getting the phone we want on whatever carrier offers us the best monthly toll; it's about Apple making all the money it can possibly make (which is certainly what they are supposed to be doing). I'm sure they appreciate guys like you finding fault for companies like T-mobile for not giving Apple those profit maximization deals.

Very simply: Sprint is betting the whole company on iPhone. Maybe T-mobile doesn't want to bet it's company? Apple is rich enough (IMO).
 
Interesting. Since AT&T is no longer allowing activations of the iPhone 2g, I suppose I could give that ancient item to a family member (who, generally, could not care less about mobile phones and technology) and they could use it as a prepay phone on Tmobile (assuming Tmobile is still allowing activations of the 2g).

T-mobile doesn't care what device you're activating. As far as they're concerned you're activating the SIM card, and what you stick it in is your problem.
 
UnlockStreak activations for iTunes unlock

Even if you don't meet AT&T's requirements to unlock your iPhone, it can still be done with UnlockStreak activations for iTunes, which turns it into iPhone unlock software. That type of unlock is permanent like the one from AT&T.
 
It's too bad that consumers feel so entitled that they do something like this. You signed a contract. What a shame it'd be if you had to honor that.


Honor what... They would breach my contract and take my unlimited plan away without a problem and probably give me and everyone else a billing credit or something dumb if they really wanted to get rid of all the unlimited plans.

As a consumer of course I feel entitled in the end I am the important one. Just as every other consumer.

Don't you think? If I am not happy why should I not breach my contract and go to t-mobile/Verizon/sprint.

It really depends how you look at it. I really evaluate it, as of now I can cancel for much less then $650 and go to another company.


But hey this is just me..:D
 
I didn't think that since I was still under contract they would be able to unlock the phone? So you're saying that when I buy the iPhone 5 I just have to do is call AT&T and they will unlock it for me?

Typically it depends on if your account is in good standing, AT&T has been unlocking in-contract phones.
 
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