the 500MB included is at 4g speeds, while you have unlimited data using 3g speed.
But on their website it says 2g speeds after the 500MB so I'm not entirely sure if the 3g speeds are iPhone specific.
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But on their website it says 2g speeds after the 500MB so I'm not entirely sure if the 3g speeds are iPhone specific.
Most people don't use more than 500-750MB of data. I have unlimited "throttling" with ATT. I have hit over 2GB maybe 3 months total ever. Most o the time I am between 500-1GB.
The real question is can T-mobile offer more "value" and provide "more coverage" to overcome the $400 per line subsidy plus whatever discount ATT/Verizon/Sprint give.
Remember T-mobile never offered discount with their previous bring your own phone/buy full price value plans (or value plus)...I forget whatever it was called because it was confusing. But those plans never gave discounts if you paid full price and got a monthly discount.
Can T-mobile make up $1600-2000 subsidy ever 20 months for the 4-5 lines many Americans have?
I don't think they can. Or the savings won't be enough.
A few thoughts.
1) AT&T upgrades at 12 months. I've had every iPhone since the original. AT&T has always let me upgrade to the new model after about 12 months. That's five iPhones I've upgraded before using them for 24 months. If it had been T-Mobile that would be 5 phones x 12 months x $20 per month = $1,200. In other words, AT&T pays the subsidy off for year two.
2) Who the hell wants to use a two-plus year old iPhone?
3) How about buying a new iPhone from AT&T for $199 then pay the ETF of $275. Total cost $474. Take it to T-Mobile whose total phone cost would be $580.
4) T-Mobile's network is far behind AT&T and Verizon IMHO. Look at the locations that have LTE and it's only the major metros - not everyone lives in LA, Chicago or NY...
5) The T-Mobile chick on the motorcycle is hot!
1) AT&T upgrades at 12 months. I've had every iPhone since the original. AT&T has always let me upgrade to the new model after about 12 months. That's five iPhones I've upgraded before using them for 24 months. If it had been T-Mobile that would be 5 phones x 12 months x $20 per month = $1,200. In other words, AT&T pays the subsidy off for year two.
2) Who the hell wants to use a two-plus year old iPhone?
3) How about buying a new iPhone from AT&T for $199 then pay the ETF of $275. Total cost $474. Take it to T-Mobile whose total phone cost would be $580.
4) T-Mobile's network is far behind AT&T and Verizon IMHO. Look at the locations that have LTE and it's only the major metros - not everyone lives in LA, Chicago or NY...
5) The T-Mobile chick on the motorcycle is hot!
Yes but if you don't want to pay that they don't just cut you off or force you to buy it. All of the data plans on Tmobile are unlimited, the only choice you have to make is how fast you want that unlimited data to flow and for how long.
It's not throttling to 3G speeds.
After 500MB, "Speeds slowed up to 2G speeds after 500 MB."
I copied that directly from T-mobile's website.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/family-plans.aspx
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ETF from ATT is $325- (10/month)
don't forget another benefit: ability to use smartphones without paying for a data plan. for example, at&t forces you to pay for a data plan even if you don't use a lot of data (ie you're in a lot of wifi zones already). with tmobile, it's just $10 for an additional line and comes with 500mb data.
Damn, that'd be nice! Yes, we get screwed
Let's see, I pay $65/mo for cable internet (15Mb/3Mb with static IP) with no TV, $155/mo for two iPhones on ATT and $31/mo for home phone line (no long distance).
Your mistaken if you think you can upgrade every 12 months at the full upgrade price. It's generally 18 months but again they have you committed for another 2 years. For people who want to keep their phones longer you can save substantially with Tmobile. The performance increases on the new phones have dropped considerably. My fiance has the 4S and I got the 5 and its nothing like the jump from previous generations.
Personally saving a couple grand over 2 years is enough for me to switch. I'm amazed people have accepted paying the prices for wireless service. Bleeding edge technology is becoming less and less important
To who? Link? Is there a possibility that TM has a similar subsidy for those sort of customers?
Why? I was T-mobile customer (and former Aerial Communications/voice stream customer) since 1997-2012.
I think I know a thing or two about Tmobile being with them for 15 years.
One their older plans, they offer discounts. We got a 12% discount with our older family plans.
But those with bring your own phone/buy full price and who chose the cheaper monthly plans did not receive discounts. That's why we never switched our old T-mobile plans.
If you upgrade your phone every 2 years then it is about the same, but if you keep your phone longer than that it is a much better deal as your monthly bill goes down once you pay off the subsidy.
It's a contract, but not a "contract". In phone carrier speech, "contract" in quotes is when they give you a phone for a low downpayment, charge you for the difference through your 24 month "contract", and then keep charging and charging and charging after the 24 months. This is not a "contract", it's just a contract.
You must be the 1%! You must be grandfathered in some older plan, don't let it go! That's like rent control in NYC.
Here is how it is for us mere mortals:
1. Early upgrade is 21 months not 12 months
2. iPhone 4 is still being sold on AT&T so you can't blame T-Mo
3. It is $199 + $36 activation fee + $325 termination fee = $560
4. Depends on where you live
5. COSIGN! She is! I can't wait for her to do an iPhone commercial.
The iPhone is sold at full price at T-mobile.
ATT/Verizon/sprint sell the base iPhone at $199 price. But the MSRP is $650 for the iPhone. Maybe ATT/Verizon/Sprint get a small in bulk discount from Apple and get it around $400.
So it costs ATT $600 for iphone and in return for 2 year contract they sell it to you for $199.....a $400 subsidy.
I am really hopeful now that a carrier has been backed into a corner and has come out fighting, this will serve to make people understand the true price of the devices they use and allow for great non-contract service plans. I can get great condition used devices for family members for $75-$200 any day of the week, and their service dirt cheap. Maybe in turn, it will put downward pressure on the manufacturers, Apple included, to price their devices lower to compete rather than hiding the cost in carrier contracts.
So to recap: lower price non-contract service, eventually lower price devices. It works for the rest of the world, hopefully here in the mathematically-challenged USA soon too.
So to recap: lower price non-contract service, eventually lower price devices. It works for the rest of the world, hopefully here in the mathematically-challenged USA soon too.
So if I sign up now, I will get the 500mb 4g and unlimited 3g? Or is it not available yet?
So is the TMo iPhone 5 different than the factory unlocked iPhone 5 you can buy today?
Key is about the AWS.
If that's available on the Tmo iP5 it makes a WORLD of difference so you don't get stuck on Edge where they haven't re-farmed their 3G (like..most everywhere sadly)
Key is about the AWS.
If that's available on the Tmo iP5 it makes a WORLD of difference so you don't get stuck on Edge where they haven't re-farmed their 3G (like..most everywhere sadly)
On the positive side, no outrageous charges when you exceed your data limit. And while you wouldn't want to download movies or songs or apps on 2G, at least you _can_ use it if you have to. BTW. it seems that "Maps" uses about one quarter of the bandwidth that Google Maps uses, so Maps should work if you need it.
Really?!
I completely understand testing in small markets and then preparing to deploy in larger ones but for T-Mobile to have this long to develop their network and not be ready to execute it in NYC is very disappointing
I completely understand testing in small markets and then preparing to deploy in larger ones but for T-Mobile to have this long to develop their network and not be ready to execute it in NYC is very disappointing