T-Mobile's iPhone 5 is a Tweaked Model A1428 Phone with AWS Support

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The iPhone 5 that will be sold through T-Mobile is a modified version of the A1428 iPhone 5 that is currently produced for AT&T's network, among others. The new version of the A1428 has been tweaked on the hardware side by Apple to support Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) bands for T-Mobile's network.

    According to an Apple representative that spoke to Engadget, existing A1428 phones cannot be updated to add AWS support.
    On April 12, which is the date that T-Mobile's iPhone 5 launches, Apple will be selling the new version of the A1428 iPhone. This phone will be available unlocked at full retail price through Apple, and will function with both the T-Mobile and AT&T networks, as well as on many LTE bands around the world.

    Apple plans to phase out the existing A1428 hardware in favor of the new version, which means future phones from AT&T might also ship with AWS support included. While the current A1428 phone works with T-Mobile's network, it is notably slower than the modified version.

    Apple's iPhone 5 with AWS included will be available at 12:01 a.m. on April 12 from 24-hour locations, and phones ordered from Apple's Online Store can be unlocked (after full payment) through T-Mobile.

    Article Link: T-Mobile's iPhone 5 is a Tweaked Model A1428 Phone with AWS Support
  2. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Had to be. Adding 1700MHz band to LTE seems like a nice maneuver.
  3. roxxette macrumors 68000


    Aug 9, 2011
    Interesting, iphone sales should bump a little more.
  4. bradl macrumors 68040


    Jun 16, 2008
    In short, T-Mobile's iPhone 5 can go both ways after unlocking, while ATT's 5 can't, unless the iPhone 5 for ATT is bought after 4/12/13. Then it could go both ways.

  5. Illusion986 macrumors 6502


    Mar 12, 2009
  6. Am3r1ca16 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2012
    New York City
    Oh wow.

    So the new iPhone 5 is going to have AWS that means where i normally pick up Edge will instead be 3G where tmobile normally has? Or that hasnt been reformed?
  7. Diode, Mar 26, 2013
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2013

    Diode macrumors 68020


    Apr 15, 2004
    Washington DC
    Current AT&T phone already supports 1700 LTE. This "tweak" is adding 1700 3G.

    It also seems they are adding more bands LTE bands though? Wondering if they are adding 1 (2100 MHz), 3 (1800 MHz) and 5 (850 MHz)? Essentially combining Model A1429 and Model A1428?
  8. Goldfrapp macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2005
    Does anyone know why Verizon's network speeds are slower than those of AT&T or T-Mobile???

    I thought Verizon has always been considered the best. :confused:
  9. bradl macrumors 68040


    Jun 16, 2008
    Then why did you post in the thread?

    I would say that you should care, because it means that not only is this version of the iPhone 5 now to be more sought after, you could now take it to another non-CDMA carrier without suffering any degradation of service due to the same bands being supported.

  10. billdone7 macrumors newbie

    Mar 23, 2013
  11. ghostface147 macrumors 68020


    May 28, 2008
    That seems to be the case.
  12. rGiskard macrumors 68000


    Aug 9, 2012
    In my experience with Verizon in a rural area, they are the best at giving it to their customers over a barrel.
  13. Illusion986 macrumors 6502


    Mar 12, 2009
    Im stuck with ATT for multiple reasons and me not caring can be explained by saying ignorance is bliss.... :) But then again...maybe it is not...
  14. rumz macrumors 6502

    Feb 11, 2006
    What model is the one Apple sells factory unlocked?
  15. ftaok macrumors 603


    Jan 23, 2002
    East Coast
    I wonder if there going to give it a new model number. I remember when they came out with the updated nano6g, they didn't bother changing the model number. Apple was still selling older 6g's to get rid of older stock. Didn't really matter since the change in parts weren't a big deal.

    It would suck if you were to buy one and get an older model. At the very least the updated model should command more $$ in the resale market.
  16. bradl macrumors 68040


    Jun 16, 2008
    I ask, because I'm on ATT as well, and while I don't have any reason to switch carriers at this point, I like having the ability to have options, especially in the regard that my 3G or 4G service won't be degraded anymore, should I want to switch to T-Mobile. They've caught up and then some, plus put ATT a bit on notice as far as service, coverage, pricing, and portability go.

    They also put VZW and Sprint on notice, as they have now stated that they now unbundled services that customers want, leaving free reign of how the phone is put together up to the manufacturer, not crippling the phone to be tailored to the network. Finally, a carrier in the US got it right, which is something Europe and the rest of the world has already had. Ironically, it took a European-owned carrier to do so.

    In short, the others now has to step up their game, which makes it a bonus for us either way.

  17. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    The next year or so is going to be wacky on the resale market. People will have to really do due diligence to make sure (if they are buying a used phone) that they are getting the "right" one.
  18. CEmajr macrumors 601

    Dec 18, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    The GSM technology that AT&T and T-Mobile use for HSPA+ is faster than CDMA carriers like Verizon are capable of on their 3G networks. CDMA maxes out at around 3.7mbps I believe while AT&T HSPA+ goes up to 21mbps and T-Mobile goes up to 42mbps.
  19. Dwalls90 macrumors 601


    Feb 5, 2009
    Tweaked A1428?

    This is going to cause a nightmare ... so much hardware fragmentation.:mad:

    Hopefully 5S has world-phone capabilities
  20. RichardC300 macrumors 65816


    Sep 27, 2012
    Chapel Hill, NC
  21. Stella macrumors 604


    Apr 21, 2003
    Hmm... nice - these can be used on Wind Mobile in Canada...
  22. apunkrockmonk macrumors 6502a


    Nov 20, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    As an Apple supporter since ~1992 when I got my first computer this is one of their first moves that has royally pissed me off.

    Glad I get to sell my unlocked iPhone a1428 and go buy the exact same phone again.

    The built in radio already supports these frequencies I fail to see how they cannot update the baseband in a future iOS to save me from paying 8% tax on $749 again ($59.92). Plus the added joy of whatever loss I take from reselling an iPhone 5, doubt I'll be getting a full $749 for my used phone.
  23. ahoover macrumors member


    May 11, 2004
    I'll be waiting for the iPhone 5S release mid year to upgrade my factory unlocked 64GB 4S MD257LL/A. Likely stay on T-Mobile. I get 3G most places now in LA. Looking forward to T-Mobile calling over WiFi VOIP client.
  24. Illusion986 macrumors 6502


    Mar 12, 2009
    Completely agree with your point. As ATT has been heading the opposite direction for a while, perhaps people switching over to other carriers will make them reconsider their business plans to stay competitive
  25. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601


    Jun 21, 2010
    Its considered the best because they have more LTE than TMobile has 3G and that's within 2 years of launching the network. T-Mobile still barely covers the US with HSPA. They've been working on it for over 5 years. ATT/VZW LTE is faster than TMo and far more expansive.

    Id rather have LTE everywhere and pay a little more than get stuck with EDGE once I leave a city with tMo

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