Tabbed iChat With iTunes?

[johnpaul191]

YES TABS AT LAST!

not having tabs in iChat is what keeps me from using it more than i do...... Adium will always get points for existing before iChat (or even an actual AOL AIM app for OS X for people that jumped right in with 10.0). i like in the Adium betas how you can modify the hell out of the buddy list etc... things Apple will never do. either way if iChat really gets tabs i'll probably still use both.

as for the iTunes thing, it's not really like the argument about konfab..... it's just an applescript to set your status (available or away status).... there are others for your local weather or a ton of other things. Apple made the applescript stuff work so easily for a reason. does anyone actually try to sell those scripts? if anything, Apple adding this means i don't have to try to explain applescripts to people quite as much. the people that wrote some of those scripts will come up with more clever ideas in the future.

 

[wdlove]

I am very excited about these features.

However I doubt that we'll see MSN support because, well, that would mean working a contract with M$.

Steve has work with Microsoft before, so anything is possible. We should give Apple a chance.

 

[Natron]

There are a lot more pressing matters for iChat, just to keep up with AIM. Namely:
-- Formattable away messages (and an easier way to browse/update them)
-- "Invisible" support (when my friends on AIM go invisible, i can't talk to them, even if they're talking to me)
-- Animated buddy icons (not major, but hey..)
-- Compatible text-formatting support (text on AIM doesn't look the same for some reason)
-- PROFILES!

AMEN!!!!!

Go to View: Show Groups. Unless you already know about that and I'm missing your point.

BTW, does anyone know how to get rid of the groups pull-down menu in the main buddy list after showing groups?
–Chase

I think you can turn it off in Preferences, in the general tab.

My only complaint with groups is that you can only view one group at a time, not a huge deal, but if they could be organized like AIM.

For anyone wanting standard auto-reply away messages in iChat, check out iCAR at VersionTracker.com.

I used to use that, but it began acting funky and crashing iChat whenever it tried to auto-reply.

Steve has work with Microsoft before, so anything is possible. We should give Apple a chance.

I read the problems with MSN and Yahoo support with other programs, such as Adium and Fire, was due to MSN and Yahoo wanting you to use their software. So every so often they would change something and the 3rd party programs would lose support and users would have to wait for updates.


Just thought of something, how about "Forward to Mobile" support!!


EDIT: Added that last reply.

 

[~Shard~]

Good to see that additional functionality is on the way for iChat, it needs it in order to remain competitive. These newly announced improvements are no doubt the case in general though for Tiger and all the included updated apps it will bring - we have only seen a brief sampling of the changes, updates, new features, etc. which are being integrated into Tiger, and there are many more which will surface in the upcoming months before its release. There will probably be additional iChat updates and improvements beyond these that we don't even know about yet, so for all of you wanting additional functionality a la Adium, Proteus, etc., just be patient and see what happens with iChat. 🙂

 

[michelle]

I apologize if this is off-topic, but does anyone know if there is a keyboard command to switch between tabs in Safari? If not, it would be a useful thing.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

I apologize if this is off-topic, but does anyone know if there is a keyboard command to switch between tabs in Safari? If not, it would be a useful thing.

Command+Shift+Left/Right arrow key

It's documented in the Window menu of Safari.

 

[virividox]

sounds promising

 

[areyouwishing]

i don't know about anyone else but when Im away from my house, i leave my music playing.

I guess the feature has a limited use for some.

 

[MentalFabric]

The only way iChat is ever going to become popular is if Apple work a deal with Google and make iChat the official gmail client, and release a windows version....

I wish.

 

[michelle]

Command+Shift+Left/Right arrow key

It's documented in the Window menu of Safari.

Thanks 🙂 Don't know why I never thought to look there.

 

[maya]

I find it funny that people complain, that oh ah tiger doesn't have features that should cost $ 129.00 USD, since its implementing features from other developers, etc...etc....etc...

Do you want an easier way for an application like iChat to have scripts built into the application or do you want to have to install it yourself. Sure its not new then again how many times have other developers taken things from other software companies and implemented into they own application. This is not new people. 🙄

No one is forcing you to upgrade *cough* unless your HW is not supported *cough* 😉

When it comes to software and even hardware things are bound to cross paths with other hardware or software. Last time I checked "GADGETS" are different for those thinking its a copy cat of kon...blah blah 🙄 should read the about GADGETS Verses WIDGETS. Just because they look the same on appearance doesn't mean they work 100% the same.

Talk about judging the book by it cover. 🙄

For that matter why not just say that OS X is like XP they both are Operating Systems as with computer Mhz and Ghz chips lets all forget about RISC and CISC, etc... Why are you people complaining?

Tab's are nothing new it all has to do with if a company wants to implement it into they application.

Get over it people, so they took the play iTunes song to play as an away message, BIG DEAL get over it, you still used APPLE SCRIPT to do this.


take care.

 

[maya]

The only way iChat is ever going to become popular is if Apple work a deal with Google and make iChat the official gmail client, and release a windows version....

I wish.

Don't have to just register your gmail account and get a .NET passport, if iChat supports messenger networks it will work.

Since the AOL and Apple partnership is drawing to a close, I wonder if Apple and AOL is going to renew or do something different.

 

[ravenvii]

Awesome, tabbed chatting rocks. I used to have it with AIM on my PC (using DeadAIM) and really missed it when I started using iChat (yes I know about Adium and Proteus - I have tried those before, but prefer iChat). I just have to wonder, how would they handle the little cloud that appears on the upper-right when someone IMs you, and you click it to make it transform into a real window. How would it transform into a tad on a separate window?

 

[nagromme]

I had iChatStatus for a while, but then every once in a while I'd have my iTunes library play at random, then I'd forget that everyone on my buddy list could see what I'm listening to. Really embarrassing when that ONE New Kids on the Block song that I like comes on.

😀

That's what I was thinking... at first I thought it sounded fun, might raise something to discuss with a friend even. And I thought... no. 😀

 

[Sophipod]

Tiger????

It seems like apple is drawing alot of the new features of tiger from 3rd party programs... (Konfabulator/ituescripts)?? Apple is not known for doing things like this, its usually their internal innovation that "wows" us all... I hope this is just a "macrumor" Apple can do better! (even though its a pretty cool idea, they can come up with their own stuff ) 🙂

 

[ijimk]

I think it is a good idea. I will use as i am already an ichat and itunes user.

 

[Doctor Q]

I want to know if they fixed the bug I reported to Apple where you type a long message into the iChat window and the window migrates up the screen rather than repositioning itself after it expands and contracts.

See details in this thread.

 

[mgbaron]

Finally

Finally ichat will have ONE of the great features of adium. If only they would take a few more hints.

 

[hulugu]

besides it cutting in to reasons for people to switch and Apple even sold it to jag users, how many windows users would actually pay for it? you feel bad making people use AIM you would probably feel just as bad making them pay $30 to talk to you. however it would sell more iSight but I can't see how that would be marketed. the iMac was retooled to gain on the success of the iPod.

As far as supporting video in other programs. I haven't used the video support in MSN, but Yahoo video was terrible: .6 fps and no audio.

But, I could buy iSights with iChat AV for Windows for those friends and family still blighted with Windows. I'd love everyone to use a Mac, but this isn't going to happen soon, and I think that iChat would become another Halo app, just like iPod and iTunes. The more people using iChat AV, the more important Quicktime gets, not only do you have it for iTunes on a PC, but now it becomes even more important to use.
This strikes me as a win-win situation for Apple, while porting the iApps would not be.

With a bundled system my F&F would get a neat little camera and a cool program, worth 129.99 IMHO.

 

[King Cobra]

Man, I hate tabs. They prevent you from seeing everything (or a lot of items that you want to see) within the tabs at once. It's real bad with tab chats, because you have to visit each chat to see if what each person said is important or necessary for a reply. Plus, using multiple Windows allows so much more flexability: You can resize each one, minimize a few of them if you wanted, and keep track of multiple things at once. (I know, there will still be people who prefer tabs over windows due to saving room on your desktop. Bah, tabs are way overrated.)

iChat 3 should have the "What you are playing" option in it, not iTunes. I don't see why you should use an application outside of iChat to show what others see from the application.

Oh, and iChat 2 needs some heavy NSDebugging. 😡

 

[t300]

One word...


Hallelujah!

 

[narco]

It's nice to see Tiger advancing but it's another example of Apple simply copying something to put into the OS that is currently already offered by third party apps/plug-ins, just like Dashboard and some other things. Ok, so spotlight is big, but I'm currently not seeing my $129/£99 worth.

I was thinking the same thing; I wonder if the people who created the scripts in iChat will be as pissed as Konfab was.

On the other hand, there's usually one big thing in every OS that makes the upgrade worth it. Spotlight by itself is well worth the money in my opinion, but all these little small features are going to be fun to go through.

.narco

 

[solvs]

Man, I hate tabs.

I'm sure you can disable it like with Safari.

 

[King Cobra]

Oh, I bet $15 that iChat 3 would have an option to choose between window and tab browsing. My frame of mind in my above rant wasn't about an all-tab iChat, but the addition of tabs. It was also a vented opinion.

After that, we'll be seeing tabs in the Finder, tabs in Mail, and by 2006, I say tabs in the Terminal. (rumor machine turns up)

 

[MacFan26]

Man, I hate tabs. They prevent you from seeing everything (or a lot of items that you want to see) within the tabs at once.

I like tabs, but sometimes it's easier just to have more than one window open. I would hope if Apple's intending on including this they're going to have it like Adium, where you can have some tabbed and some not. It's not just an "on" or "off" function.