Tabbed iChat With iTunes?

[DJMad]

I personally love iChat but you need to be able to have multiple accounts online at once. Since aim caps your number of buddies at 200 it is annoying to use another client or switch back and forth.

Second I would love to see them connect bluetooth with iChat, that way when you get a call it would mute your music and put up an away message saying you are on the phone.

Third depending on what they do with iTunes and iChat there are some cool social experiments you could do. For example if people could vote on the next song that would play. Or if your buddies could also rate your music so you could compare there ratings with yours. All sorts of cool stuff could happen.

Oh well thats my two cents

 

[Flying Llama]

darn it apple legal removed the pic... i just got home so i never saw it... 🙁

 

[inkswamp]

Going beyond just song title

Gees, so many naysayers on this iChat/iTunes things. 😕

Some co-workers of mine and I use freeware that sends the current iTunes song to iChat and it's great. I like the feature because sometimes you see a tune in their chat status and it sounds interesting so you move over to iTunes and find their playlist and check the song out, streaming over the network. Imagine if Apple allows you to just click the song title there in iChat and it starts streaming in iTunes. There are lots and lots of possibilities given the presence and integration of Rendezv... er, whatever-it's-called-nowadays... 😀

Imagine being able to broadcast a "listen to this song" request to everyone in your buddy list, which is a link that starts a song from your library streaming to everyone who accepts.

Sure it's non-productive (like iChat and iTunes to some degree) but then it's also sort of fun too.

What I really want to know about the next iChat is whether or not it will support multiple person text chats over a local network. Why the current iChat doesn't support that now seems to be a mighty big oversight, IMO. It really hobbles the usefulness of the software. There are many times when I want to be able to talk to many co-workers at once. iChat's basically useless and too slow in that regard. I end up reaching for the phone instead.

 

[gopher]

Gees, so many naysayers on this iChat/iTunes things. 😕

Some co-workers of mine and I use freeware that sends the current iTunes song to iChat and it's great. I like the feature because sometimes you see a tune in their chat status and it sounds interesting so you move over to iTunes and find their playlist and check the song out, streaming over the network. Imagine if Apple allows you to just click the song title there in iChat and it starts streaming in iTunes. There are lots and lots of possibilities given the presence and integration of Rendezv... er, whatever-it's-called-nowadays... 😀

Imagine being able to broadcast a "listen to this song" request to everyone in your buddy list, which is a link that starts a song from your library streaming to everyone who accepts.

Sure it's non-productive (like iChat and iTunes to some degree) but then it's also sort of fun too.

What I really want to know about the next iChat is whether or not it will support multiple person text chats over a local network. Why the current iChat doesn't support that now seems to be a mighty big oversight, IMO. It really hobbles the usefulness of the software. There are many times when I want to be able to talk to many co-workers at once. iChat's basically useless and too slow in that regard. I end up reaching for the phone instead.

You should try http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/

 

[UWStudent]

Man, I hate tabs.

Tabs are awesome when you use a 12" Powerbook/iBook. I can get away without using them when I'm at a desk with a multibutton mouse bound to Expose keys, but when I'm mobile, its a royal pain to shift through a ton of windows. I think its important for Apple to continue to include things like tabs & Expose since so many of its new "switchers" are laptop users.

 

[mms]

What I'd like to see is Apple implement something in iChat that is new and revolutionary. Tabbed windows have already been in Adium and Proteus and Apple is just playing catch-up. The iTunes script has already been created by third party developers and Apple is again just playing catch up. That's not the innovative upgrades that Apple is known for, and I do hope that they can come up with something that will wow us and make them the leader once again, rather than the follower. Adium IMO is much better than iChat, and Apple needs to do more than just catch up. They need to implement some new and revolutionary features that will persuade myself and others back.

 

[shidoshi]

What I'd like to see is Apple implement something in iChat that is new and revolutionary.

While it wouldn't be new or revolutionary, one thing that would be fun and would really make iChat stand out would be to bring in something like the only program I give MS a lot of credit for - MS ComicChat. It would be something "different," because I'm sure a lot of people out there - especially Mac users - have never used ComicChat. Obviously it wouldn't replace what is already there, but it would be a great extra, fits in along with the speech bubbles that are already there, and I know that Apple could really do it up nice.

 

[mms]

I've never heard of ComicChat. Can you explain what that is?

500th Post!

 

[ravenvii]

ComicChat is something you'd never thought could come out of Microsoft. It's really weird, and cool. It's not being worked on anymore though - not for 6 years or so. Here's a link:

http://research.microsoft.com/vwg/projectsheets/comicchat.htm

I never tried it myself, but my curiousity is definitely piqued.

(Thanks goes to Google 😛)

 

[Diatribe]

I think it's awesome. Apple is catching up with some of the stuff other clients already had, while adding other nice features. And according to the scources, development is far from done. So there'll be even more.
Now all I want is MSN support... 😀

 

[Diatribe]

What I'd like to see is Apple implement something in iChat that is new and revolutionary. Tabbed windows have already been in Adium and Proteus and Apple is just playing catch-up. The iTunes script has already been created by third party developers and Apple is again just playing catch up. That's not the innovative upgrades that Apple is known for, and I do hope that they can come up with something that will wow us and make them the leader once again, rather than the follower. Adium IMO is much better than iChat, and Apple needs to do more than just catch up. They need to implement some new and revolutionary features that will persuade myself and others back.

How could you possibly call video conferencing with 3 people and audio conferenceing with 10 not new and revolutionary?

 

[solvs]

How could you possibly call video conferencing with 3 people and audio conferenceing with 10 not new and revolutionary?

I'd say more evolutionary than revolutionary, but cool none-the-less.

 

[h'biki]

iTunes integration with iChat? Right now you can't even turn on audio chat in iChat without iTunes music being muted. They don't want the other person to be listening to your music. Surely Apple can't have had a change of heart in the matter.

It ain't Apple. Its the RIAA and that wonderful piece of legislation called the DMCA...

and you can thank the corporatisation of the legislative process for that piece of law.

Read the following if you want more information:

http://www.free-culture.org/freecontent/

🙂

And I should also make mention of the Induce Act, which could be seriously damaging to Apple (remember, all music on an iPod is stolen):

http://savethe.org/

 

[Diatribe]

I'd say more evolutionary than revolutionary, but cool none-the-less.

Yeah, I guess you could debate those terms. I just wanted to make clear that Apple has indeed a very unique messenger out there that is, in terms of video conferencing and audio conferencing to a certain point, pretty revolutionary compared to the other clients out there.
That's not saying it isn't lacking a couple of things but it is nevertheless an awesome client if you do use video/audio conferencing.

 

[ssamani]

you've got one, the sidebar "tabs" certain folders you use.

also cammand-t is too add to the sidebar and also creates a new tab in safari... coincidence?

Yeah...it's nice, but too permanent. I like to keep my Finder clean.

Also if you have traversed to a directory below your sidebar icon, clicking back on that icon does not take you back down to that directory. You have to keep

I would like to have a tabbed Finder to deal with all the clutter caused by Installers and Browsers popping up new windows every time a disk image is mounted or a I click on "show file in Finder". I want to be able to get it to "show file in existing Finder window" or "show fiel in new Finder tab".

Sanj

 

[Nermal]

ComicChat is something you'd never thought could come out of Microsoft. It's really weird, and cool. It's not being worked on anymore though - not for 6 years or so. Here's a link:

http://research.microsoft.com/vwg/projectsheets/comicchat.htm

I never tried it myself, but my curiousity is definitely piqued.

(Thanks goes to Google 😛)

Wow, that brings back memories, I haven't used it in YEARS!

 

[anonymousbrit]

Again, the photos have been removed under threat from Apple Legal, and again, they are available on my site here.

 

[Wonder Boy]

You're taking this all wrong. Your audio won't be broadcasted to your buddies, they'll just be able to see what song you're playing... you know, written in text.

i don't think there could be a feature more pointless. i think apple's stock just dropped a couple points because of this nonesense.

 

[gopher]

i don't think there could be a feature more pointless. i think apple's stock just dropped a couple points because of this nonesense.

The market is down. Look at the oil data.

http://quote.yahoo.com/

 

[Wonder Boy]

The market is down. Look at the oil data.

http://quote.yahoo.com/

adorable. that's the only word i can think of.
i'm well aware this feature had nothing to do with apple's stock. i was kidding.

 

[7on]

Thumbs up for Jabber working this out!

Jabber, I believe is Open Source.

Which is another reason iChat can't be compared to Proteus and Adium. Because both Adium and Proteus reversed engineered or "hacked" MSN, Yahoo, and AIM to get them to work. I imagine that a percentage of the money made from each OS sale goes to AOL so that iChat can work with AIM, so Apple can stay in the loop. Adding more protocols will not only complicate the interface, it might raise the value of the OS. I'm sure Yahoo and MS won't mind sharing their service, its one less app they have to update - but Apple would have to up the price somewhere, and judging by Apple's price "intelligence" it'll probably be on the OS. Probably $150 if both those services were added.

I'm sure you can disable it like with Safari.

And don't forget with Safari, tabbing is off by default. So iChat tabbing will most likely be off by default.

 

[Codemonkey]

Hmmm... so in your Buddy List, when one is away, will you hear a specific track (of theirs) playing as their Away message?

Ya, it's like being on hold with a big company.

You just sit there and listen to it.

😀

 

[space2go]

Jabber, I believe is Open Source.

It's even better:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3920
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3921
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3922
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3923

 

[takao]

Wow, that brings back memories, I haven't used it in YEARS!

yeah it was quite funny...especially because it's fully compatible with ordinary IRC servers (MS have been taken down long ago).... i tried that on a channel where i was a lot in the past..works perfectly but all the other people get funny msgs additional to the written text...

 

[RocksInMySocks]

Tabs and iTunes... you know, it's "for the kids".

Someone wake me when Motorola lets slip they've been funneled an iChat client for handhelds.

Peerio... pfff.