I think the reason it is such low pricing is because that Apple made it's own chip, so it doesn't need to buy the chips (only the material and labor cost).
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I will do. Sorry if it seems like I'm being overly analytical; I'm a scientist by trade and I like justifying my decisions as rigorously as possible. But then, I'm also someone who looks at the lack of application-level multitasking on the iPhone OS with hope rather than disappointment. Mainly because I'd love to see them not use the old models of co-operative or pre-emptive multitasking (and implementing either of those models of concurrency would make it very different to use a more nuanced, and potentially cycle saving, lazy concurrency). So I can be optimistic too
You said the words right out of my brain!
I expect a lot of Slate products shown at CES to never see the light of day again.
The difference between Apple and other companies is that Apple doesn't show prototypes. They show finished products. And this product has a wealth of apps already made for it ready to go.
The HP Slate computer, unless it is coming out soon, is still a prototype running a computer OS.
Same thing with Microsoft's impressive tech demos. While very VERY cool, it's not something we can get. It's like car companies showing concept vehicles that we all want, but they will never make.
Anyone see this?
http://gizmodo.com/5458855/the-apple-ipad-is-for-old-people
There are a lot of fat, rich baby boomers who need a computer that is really simple to use.
There are sooooo many of these old farts. Apple will make a killing.
(this is a jab at my 62 year old co-worker who I know is reading this thread)
http://gizmodo.com/5458855/the-apple-ipad-is-for-old-people
There are a lot of fat, rich baby boomers who need a computer that is really simple to use.
There are sooooo many of these old farts. Apple will make a killing.
(this is a jab at my 62 year old co-worker who I know is reading this thread)
You're quite right, the iPad is just an iPod Touch with a larger screen, but with added functionality -- see my previous post about iBooks and (especially) iWork.
Amazon marketed the Kindle as an eBook Reader, but it always knew that the hardware was capable of just that little bit more, hence the SDK for the Kindle. And a copycat of the AppStore. Amazon is worried, otherwise why switch its 70/30 split to 30/70 in favour of content producers?
I don't have a problem with being analytical. It's just refreshing to see.I will do. Sorry if it seems like I'm being overly analytical; I'm a scientist by trade and I like justifying my decisions as rigorously as possible. But then, I'm also someone who looks at the lack of application-level multitasking on the iPhone OS with hope rather than disappointment. Mainly because I'd love to see them not use the old models of co-operative or pre-emptive multitasking (and implementing either of those models of concurrency would make it very different to use a more nuanced, and potentially cycle saving, lazy concurrency). So I can be optimistic too
I doubt that they will see much, if any, parts cost advantage.
What Apple has done is take control of their own specs and development schedules in the mobile arena instead of relying on outside sources. Doing so, behind a curtain of secrecy, will give Apple a great marketing advantage over those dependent on off-the-shelf chips.
no worries, by the time you are seated, you'll be given with an iPad instead of a menu. There you can browse the food, the wine selection, and perhaps a video of the chef's recommendation for the day. And perhaps, while waiting, you can browse pictures of waitresses in bikini.
Thank you. Out of curiosity, are you aware of any discussions regarding the potential (or not) for lazy/on-demand concurrency with the iPhone OS (as opposed to pre-emptive/polling multitasking like found on most desktops)?
Sadly I don't keep up with iPhone OS development, yet. I'm just getting my documentation before diving into the SDK.
You hit that right on the head. There is going to be a huge aftermarket for integrating iPads into kiosks, tables and other stationary places that use embedded PCs right now.
These items can be make more secure than embedded PCs and slick user interfaces are going to be very quickly implemented. Think of it, walk up to an iPad enabled ATM, WiFi your passcode and off you go. I'm sure there is a business plan out there somewhere for this.
Not to mention the automotive aftermarket! Just a matter of time before we see an iPad job on "Pimp My Ride" or "Overhauling."
And a display with a refresh rate in seconds per frame instead of frames per second.
I am bettering good money there is a color Kindle all done and ready to launch in the next three months to counter the iPad market launch. Whomever is doing the iPad screen has a competitor that wants some of this market and the Kindle will get that screen Apple turned down.
All they have to do to beat the iPad is...
Add a Camera and Video Conferencing functions
Add USB ports and 9-1 card Reader
Add XP or similar OS so we can use it like a computer rather than a peripheral
Add the Video Port or I/O so I can hook it up to my TV or use it as a touch screen monitor for my computer.
Add a pressure sensitive stylus for us artists out there (Wacom can do it, why not Apple?)
If its a bit more bulky, who cares! Its going to do everything a computer should rather than be a 10" 1.5lb magazine on your coffee table (which if you believe the hype will also be a touch screen device)
Sorry but I'm not sold on this as something that will survive long term in the way people are going. Cool for bus rides for students but they need the function of a laptop OS, not an iPhone and I can't see someone carrying a iPad & Laptop as much as I can see a iPod Touch or Iphone & Laptop. I may look into it if some specific apps come out that allow me to use it as stated above, but I think I'll wait for Version 2 if it makes it.
Its simply not a "MUST HAVE" product I was hoping for.
Add a Camera and Video Conferencing functions
Add USB ports and 9-1 card Reader
Add XP or similar OS so we can use it like a computer rather than a peripheral
Add the Video Port or I/O so I can hook it up to my TV or use it as a touch screen monitor for my computer.
Add a pressure sensitive stylus for us artists out there (Wacom can do it, why not Apple?)
If its a bit more bulky, who cares! Its going to do everything a computer should rather than be a 10" 1.5lb magazine on your coffee table (which if you believe the hype will also be a touch screen device)
Sorry but I'm not sold on this as something that will survive long term in the way people are going. Cool for bus rides for students but they need the function of a laptop OS, not an iPhone and I can't see someone carrying a iPad & Laptop as much as I can see a iPod Touch or Iphone & Laptop. I may look into it if some specific apps come out that allow me to use it as stated above, but I think I'll wait for Version 2 if it makes it.
Its simply not a "MUST HAVE" product I was hoping for.
Exactly. I thoroughly expect that by next holiday shopping season, there will be Win7 tablet devices that take a dump on the iPad.
LMAO!
I was also disappointed at first that it didn't fill a void and make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but now it's kinda growing on me. I am thinking education market will be great, I hope to get one for my kids and write some apps to help them learn to read (and no, they are not 15 years old
)The thing about vendors "holding off" is just China waiting to see what they have to copy.
Hopefully this chip which Apple has will actually unique enough to stave off the cheap knock-offs for a while. Of course, people can make identical LOOKING devices, but with enough juice to power that big IPS screen and get 10hrs video playback... hahahahaha, just try China!!!
I'm really excited to hear the spin off names, like we had the iFone, S-iPhone, etc..
good question...
That is fine. But, Apple is under no obligation to create a new product that appeals to everyone, including you. Despite that though, they will sell millions, really. If this is such a flop, such a blunder, why are the netbook manufacturers in such a tizzy?
Here's a question for you. If you have a laptop, and don't need anything else, why even bother to read through all of this, and post?
No, this device will NOT replace your laptop, nor your phone (smart or not). It will occupy a new niche that doesn't really exist, unlike the netbooks, which mostly are just smaller, slower, cheaper laptops. Unlike the HP slate, which admittedly is just running a modded laptop OS, or the modbook, which runs OSX. Complain about the closed loop of Apple (which seems to work fine on the iPhone, or the iPods), or the lack of a "real" OS. But if you read the fine print, the only real power consumption is from the screen, not the processors. Flash is a pig, while my kids love HULU, the fans kick in all the time. Watching Quicktime in HD though, and the fans hardly ever whir.
Most of the talk has been negative, which I guess is understandable, as the hype (that WE created, more than Apple did), was impossible to match. Space age facial recognition between different users? Cameras hidden behind the screen itself (which may well happen). Screens that have solar panels in them. etc. etc. Ironically the things that it did have were significant, and WOW features. Yet we are so jaded and cynical to not say so. No one ever said $499. Most said around $999, a few said great niche product but around 2k, some said $799. $499 is a WOW. Here's another WOW. A data access plan with NO contract (WOW), one that cuts the cost in HALF (WOW). Who cares if it is on ATT, it is way cheaper than Verizon would have it cost (trust me, my bill only goes up, and it is outrageous).
I am excited by the possibilities, and can't wait to see what features sneak into the product by the release date, and by what comes next. Yes it is a 1.0 offering, but I bought the first iPod as well (and bought about five after that one). If the product doesn't appeal or have use for you, fine. I just can't understand everyone feeling so compelled to let everyone know about it. I guess it makes "you" (speaking collectively) smarter than Apple. I am willing to bet you are on the wrong side of history on that...
cheers,
michael
That is fine. But, Apple is under no obligation to create a new product that appeals to everyone, including you. Despite that though, they will sell millions, really. If this is such a flop, such a blunder, why are the netbook manufacturers in such a tizzy?
Here's a question for you. If you have a laptop, and don't need anything else, why even bother to read through all of this, and post?
No, this device will NOT replace your laptop, nor your phone (smart or not). It will occupy a new niche that doesn't really exist, unlike the netbooks, which mostly are just smaller, slower, cheaper laptops. Unlike the HP slate, which admittedly is just running a modded laptop OS, or the modbook, which runs OSX. Complain about the closed loop of Apple (which seems to work fine on the iPhone, or the iPods), or the lack of a "real" OS. But if you read the fine print, the only real power consumption is from the screen, not the processors. Flash is a pig, while my kids love HULU, the fans kick in all the time. Watching Quicktime in HD though, and the fans hardly ever whir.
Most of the talk has been negative, which I guess is understandable, as the hype (that WE created, more than Apple did), was impossible to match. Space age facial recognition between different users? Cameras hidden behind the screen itself (which may well happen). Screens that have solar panels in them. etc. etc. Ironically the things that it did have were significant, and WOW features. Yet we are so jaded and cynical to not say so. No one ever said $499. Most said around $999, a few said great niche product but around 2k, some said $799. $499 is a WOW. Here's another WOW. A data access plan with NO contract (WOW), one that cuts the cost in HALF (WOW). Who cares if it is on ATT, it is way cheaper than Verizon would have it cost (trust me, my bill only goes up, and it is outrageous).
I am excited by the possibilities, and can't wait to see what features sneak into the product by the release date, and by what comes next. Yes it is a 1.0 offering, but I bought the first iPod as well (and bought about five after that one). If the product doesn't appeal or have use for you, fine. I just can't understand everyone feeling so compelled to let everyone know about it. I guess it makes "you" (speaking collectively) smarter than Apple. I am willing to bet you are on the wrong side of history on that...
cheers,
michael
I meant that the Kindle Dx met the iPad in color and other specs....
Apple will need to allow "lending" of some sort from the get go...
AMEN, brother.
As a designer & art director I am sold, even with the tradeoffs. Not hung up over not being able to run Aperture or Quark, etc. Nice to see someone else is seeing the possibilities...
As a designer & art director I am sold, even with the tradeoffs. Not hung up over not being able to run Aperture or Quark, etc. Nice to see someone else is seeing the possibilities...
