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Until a company develops an app store to compete with Apples, there are no tablet wars. Specs are irrelevant. Its all about ux and what you can do with it.

My prediction? The first true iPad competitor will come from Amazon.
 
Its about time Tech blogs adopted some standards of journalism.

You cannot have a "hands on" review of a device that doesn't turn on. Its not a product - its a piece of sculpture. Any more than car magazines can't do "test drives" of vehicles that are still clay models.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't they using them in the Engadget vid?
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Its about time Tech blogs adopted some standards of journalism.

You cannot have a "hands on" review of a device that doesn't turn on. Its not a product - its a piece of sculpture. Any more than car magazines can't do "test drives" of vehicles that are still clay models.

For pure chutzpah (or whatever the Korean equivalent is) you've gotta hand to the people at Samsung - make sure you tease with a (vaporware) product that promises to be one hundredth of an inch thinner than the iPad 2. Just the sort of item guaranteed to launch a million idiotic "competition is good for everyone" bleats from the technerdocracy.

Remember all the hoopla that surrounded the original Galaxy Tabs (the ones that are gathering dust in the back rooms of a Best Buy near you)?

Yeah, Samsung: Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice? I don't think so.

Seems like they're going to get it right this time around. The guts are more or less like that found in the Motorola, so most people can figure out what the software's going to be like and the exterior is pretty darn sexy imo. With the 10.1" pricing set to match the iPad's price, these things should definitely offer some nice competition.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't they using them in the Engadget vid?
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I think they mention in the video they're using the OS on an older version of the Galaxy Tab (since the 8.9"/10.1" they had didn't power on)? Either way, both the OS and hardware look pretty nice.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't they using them in the Engadget vid?

This is what I mean about "journalistic standards." The title implies that they actually got to try the device out. But you've got to read the fine print:

We're not going to make a call on the software at the moment, especially since we only saw it running on the older 10.1, but it certainly looks like it will add some useful features on top of Google's stock experience.
Emphasis mine

Samsung and Engadget want the attention and pagehits by suggesting (in the title) that the device is actually working. Its not.
 
Until a company develops an app store to compete with Apples, there are no tablet wars. Specs are irrelevant. Its all about ux and what you can do with it.

My prediction? The first true iPad competitor will come from Amazon.

So true. I've had an android phone for almost 2 years. I haven't purchased a single app in that time. How much have I spent on apps for my iPod touch? A lot. I'm so sick of the android UX that I tether my iPod to my phone and use the touch to do anything online. I can't wait for my contract to be up.
 
The WiFi 10.1 will hit on June 8th -- the 16GB version will cost you $499 and the 32GB $599. The 8.9 is $469 and $569 for 16GB and 32GB, respectively.

Samsung isn't playing around here, they aren't that stupid.

At the same time though, like I said, the best time to strike would be while the supply for the iPad 2 is thin. If they could say "hey take your money over to us and we will hook you up" they would be in business, but by the time this comes out in June the iPad 2 will have iOS 5 and it will have plenty in stock (not to mentions multi-millions already sold).

Oh wow.....That DOES make a difference there doesnt it? Cant wait to see how this goes.
 
This is what I mean about "journalistic standards." The title implies that they actually got to try the device out. But you've got to read the fine print:

Emphasis mine

Samsung and Engadget want the attention and pagehits by suggesting (in the title) that the device is actually working. Its not.

The cheeky swines! Thanks vrDrew (and Roessnakhan). :)

In that case, the "new" models are vapour, I agree.
 
Looks great, they have an uphill battle ahead of them, but should be fun to watch. Still think Honeycomb looks fantastic.
 
That Galaxy Tab 8.9 looks perfect for me. Flexibility/power of Android Honeycomb...in a size I can carry around easily. :D
 
It certainly has a heck of a lot of different ways of telling you the date, time, and temperature.

well you see I am a very busy man who needs to see all this at a glance when I sit down with my tablet and I think the iPad is just for people who don't want to do real tech work and don't mind being locked down and only care about how nice things look; real users like me need widgets if we are going to get real tech serious things done like seeing what date it is, also when I get bored staring at my screen I ask for gizmos on my wallpaper or a revamped GUI instead of getting outside and reeling in my slack jaw herp derp
 
FINALLY!!! Some real competition!

This is it... Apple has FINALLY seen their only real competitor, Samsung!

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 8.9
Thinner than the iPad 2, probably about the same memory, about the same processor, slightly larger screen, and starting at $30 cheaper than the iPad 2.

This is it, guys! This is going to be the set of devices that makes Apple think hard about what needs to be new. :) Thank you, Samsung!



- Joe
 
yeah sweet! those specs are awesome. can't wait to plug it in to STunes and rent some movies, buy some SBooks, sync it to SCal and SPhoto. And of course if I have any problems with it, I can just take it to the SBar and get fixed right up.
 
Competition is a good thing. The sooner some other tablets get out that are closer to the iPad in form factor, the sooner apple has pressure to not strong arm developers like Amazon and risk losing major apps like the Kindle app etc.

Any competition is a ways off from competing remotely with apps though, that's the big short coming for the foreseeable future and why I bought one despite having a strong dislike for Apple in general.
 
This is it... Apple has FINALLY seen their only real competitor, Samsung!

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 8.9
Thinner than the iPad 2, probably about the same memory, about the same processor, slightly larger screen, and starting at $30 cheaper than the iPad 2.

This is it, guys! This is going to be the set of devices that makes Apple think hard about what needs to be new. :) Thank you, Samsung!



- Joe

Except all the devs are making Apps for the App Store
 
I love Apple's hardware but the iPad's software is too limiting. The iPad has so much potential that we will never see!
 
This is it... Apple has FINALLY seen their only real competitor, Samsung!

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 8.9
Thinner than the iPad 2, probably about the same memory, about the same processor, slightly larger screen, and starting at $30 cheaper than the iPad 2.

This is it, guys! This is going to be the set of devices that makes Apple think hard about what needs to be new. :) Thank you, Samsung!



- Joe

1. The processor is not the same...
2. It won't sell well. iPad is selling so well because it has strong 3rd party app support with apple's best customer service experience at apple store. Do these guys offer that? No.

They are so behind. They need to undercut the price. 469 dollars is still too high. Get it down to 399 dollars or less and get more apps and find a way to offer just as good as customer service like apple. Until then, no.
 
The sooner some other tablets get out that are closer to the iPad in form factor, the sooner apple has pressure to not strong arm developers like Amazon and risk losing major apps like the Kindle app etc.

Any competition is a ways off from competing remotely with apps though, that's the big short coming for the foreseeable future and why I bought one despite having a strong dislike for Apple in general.

1) Amazon is not a developer
2) Why, exactly, do you dislike Apple?
 
I do wish there was a great competitor, but that's not coming out until June, which is a really long time from now in the tech world. Companies just can't seem to match apples economy of scale and distribution network, despite the problems they're having now. Remember, the ecosystem and apps are more important than the device, really. Once 20-30 million people have the iPad and iPad 2, they aren't going to just switch. A cool device just isn't enough.
 
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