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That's contract prices, I'm talking about buying from Apple outright here in the UK, The price of an iPhone has usually increased, not every time but it has.

Understood, on and off contract the prices have remained steady in the US. Can't speak to other countries but I know that Apple will adjust prices based on exchange rates, inflation, etc.
 
What are you expecting?

Is it a new product coming down the pipeline?
Technologies that apple has been working on for years are finally going to come to the forefront.

First off, true wireless charging:

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...le-nails-future-wireless-charging-system.html

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No mats, none of that nonsense. Just walk into your home and start charging (which will quickly turn into availability at locations like starbucks, mcdonalds, etc). The technology will spread like wifi did and be ubiquitous within 5 years, prompting us to ask why we ever though charging mats were "innovative" in the first place.
 
Technologies that apple has been working on for years are finally going to come to the forefront.

First off, true wireless charging:

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...le-nails-future-wireless-charging-system.html

6a0120a5580826970c017c3418d5b6970b-pi


No mats, none of that nonsense. Just walk into your home and start charging (which will quickly turn into availability at locations like starbucks, mcdonalds, etc). The technology will spread like wifi did and be ubiquitous within 5 years, prompting us to ask why we ever though charging mats were "innovative" in the first place.

It sounds like some really neat stuff. I guess only time will tell if Apple will actually make it.
 
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First off, true wireless charging:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...le-nails-future-wireless-charging-system.html

No mats, none of that nonsense. Just walk into your home and start charging (which will quickly turn into availability at locations like starbucks, mcdonalds, etc). The technology will spread like wifi did and be ubiquitous within 5 years, prompting us to ask why we ever though charging mats were "innovative" in the first place.

Such technology is available from other sources like WiTricity.

Apple's patent is not about wide spread charging like that. It's about taking the current ability of sending power a max of about a meter, and relaying part of the power to other devices.

In other words, a wireless charger on a Mac might send power to the keyboard, which then relays part of the power to a mouse or headphones.

Of course, this slows down the charging because of distance and sharing, but it's a clever way to extend the range as long as a device is near another in the chain.
 
Actually, IIRC, when it was announced that the new Mac Pro was being built in the USA, Cook gave an interview in which he stated that making Apple products in the US only increased costs marginally (~$50 per product). Cook claimed the real hindrance to manufacturing Apple products in the US was a shortage of workers in the labor force, the unwillingness of workers to work 7 days a week (How shocking!), and the fact that the US lacked the infrastructure needed to transport the materials and components in quantity to a US manufacturing facility.

While I believe this is all true, I also believe the bean counters did not like the fact that Apple might lose $50 in profit per device.

Personally, I think that the US government should create the necessary infrastructure for large scale manufacturing and that Apple should bring back manufacturing (and jobs) to the US even if it costs them some profit in the short term. Of course, this requires both the US government and Apple to act unselfishly.

Boosting the US economy through job creation might even result in boosted sales for Apple and it would prevent Chinese companies from receiving the blueprints for Apple's products.

If this is the case what Apple is doing, I highly suspect that the iPhone 7 will be a bit more expensive than last year's models due to this. And if there is a shortage of the new phones related to this situation, then I have good reason to sidegrade to the 6s or SE to save money and get the 64 GB model.

And this is probably why it's all biting Apple in the rear and may signal the end of Cook's tenure as CEO, considering the tone of his recent interview.
 
So Apple can continue to charge a premium for an otherwise lack luster, stale 2014 design, spec-bumped iPhone 7. All to maintain a consistent profit margin. Well played, Tim.
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It's almost as if Apple is functioning as a business or something. How crazy is that?
How crazy is it that I the consumer expect better value from Apple rather than paying a premium price for yet another incremental, spec-bumped iPhone release that pales technologically in comparison to other 2016 competitor flagships at similar price points?
 
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That is Apple's problem.

Apple start pushing out poor quality products, consumer will buy from elsewhere.

Maybe apple should start cutting costs themselves? Or reduce their profit margins.

I totally agree, but remember that it's the consumer that buys the "lower quality" product that suffers with exchanges, returns etc.
 
So Apple can continue to charge a premium for an otherwise lack luster, stale 2014 design, spec-bumped iPhone 7. All to maintain a consistent profit margin. Well played, Tim.
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How crazy is it that I the consumer expect better value from Apple rather than paying a premium price for yet another incremental, spec-bumped iPhone release that pales technologically in comparison to other 2016 competitor flagships at similar price points?

Well, maybe to compensate, Apple will lower the prices?
 
Well, maybe to compensate, Apple will lower the prices?
Apple will never lower the price of their premium products in any given line--especially after rumors surfaced last week of a possible 256 GB iPhone 7. Best bet to save on costs is to purchase a SE, iP6 or iP6S.
 
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Apple will never lower the price of their premium products in any give line--especially after rumors surfaced last week of a possible 256 GB iPhone 7. Best bet to save on costs is to purchase a SE, iP6 or iP6S.

That's exactly what I plan to do in the next couple of weeks. I'd rather get one of those and then get the iPhone 8 with brand new form factor than get the 7. I have an iPhone 6 Plus with 16 gb but want to scale back the size a tiny bit but move my music over to the new phone since the iPod touch 1g won't work with iTunes anymore.
 
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Yeah gooo Apple. Show them you can lower your costs even more yet charge top dollar for a 16gb base model yeah!
 
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20% is huge..... this cannot be done through manufacturing efficiencies. It will have to come either out of the already razor-slim profit margins of the manufacturer, or more likely, out of the wages of the workers, i.e. they have to produce significantly more for basically the same pay.

There's no doubt Tim must realize this, and I'm frankly disappointed after all his talk of the last few years about concern for those same workers. His actions belie those concerns.
 
This is straight from the Walmart playbook. Squeeze your suppliers until they bleed. Hope the suppliers resist and let Apple know they will not accept this. Apple profit on each device is already hugh and they they are just looking to make more at the expense of their suppliers.
 
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I just wonder who is more greedy in this story.
Apple

While the suppliers are (or were) making hand over fist, they're more sensitive to the down ticks of a slowing demand. I read somewhere that Foxconn's profits slid by a huge percentage, because of the slowing iPhone sales, where as Apple is still making money hand over fits. I think this is why those suppliers are very resistant to lowering prices because they're dealing with profit issues as it stands.
 
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While the suppliers are (or were) making hand over fist, they're more sensitive to the down ticks of a slowing demand. I read somewhere that Foxconn's profits slid by a huge percentage, because of the slowing iPhone sales, where as Apple is still making money hand over fits. I think this is why those suppliers are very resistant to lowering prices because they're dealing with profit issues as it stands.
I thought so. ;)
 
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While the suppliers are (or were) making hand over fist, they're more sensitive to the down ticks of a slowing demand. I read somewhere that Foxconn's profits slid by a huge percentage, because of the slowing iPhone sales, where as Apple is still making money hand over fits. I think this is why those suppliers are very resistant to lowering prices because they're dealing with profit issues as it stands.

Many of the suppliers risk being cut off from their biggest customer at any time. This puts them over a barrel. They also don;t have the HUGHE cash reserves that Apple does. This puts Apple, IMO, squarely in the "more greedy" category.
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This is straight from the Walmart playbook. Squeeze your suppliers until they bleed. Hope the suppliers resist and let Apple know they will not accept this. Apple profit on each device is already hugh and they they are just looking to make more at the expense of their suppliers.

Unfortunately, I belive this to be true. The suppliers markups can't be nearly as big as Apple's (I may be wrong on this though). even if they are, percentage wise, this doesn't translate into the same amount of $$$. A penny per product for the suppliers is more significant to the suppliers than it is to Apple.
 
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Many of the suppliers risk being cut off from their biggest customer at any time. This puts them over a barrel. They also don;t have the HUGHE cash reserves that Apple does. This puts Apple, IMO, squarely in the "more greedy" category.
No disagreement, while losing a lot of money over lowered volume, that beats losing ALL of their money if Apple went with another supplier.

No question, Apple is the greedier company, their tactics over the past few years have horrible, Just consider what they did to GT Advanced Technologies with their contracts
 
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