Apple probably wants to hire you for your knowledge of physics, they don't have anyone more qualified. They definitely didn't anticipate anything you've suggested. They absolutely didn't test it extensively.
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Talk me into or out of the Watch
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Apple probably wants to hire you for your knowledge of physics, they don't have anyone more qualified. They definitely didn't anticipate anything you've suggested. They absolutely didn't test it extensively.
omg. I never thought of that. Where did you learn your physics? Would you recommend it to the apple engineers & designers?
Obviously, the band attachment design and the crown are 100% Jony Ive's babies. No amount of reasoning will convince God Of Design (GOD abbreviated
).Band attachments are also (aside from cementing issue) bad design because:
1) they rob the case of volume that otherwise can be used for bigger battery
2) they limit the design choices for next versions, if Apple chooses to keep the v.1 bands compatible - the cutouts may look out of place in a new case design
3) they make Apple a watch strap company, with so many SKUs and the time needed for customers to try different bands in the store, etc. More resources diverted to straps = less resources working on actual computer technologies = bad software, more bugs
4) the attachments embedded in the case make the watch look fat; the lugs of the traditional watches make them look better and leave room for various designs while maintaining universal compatibility
Look at it's capabilities and decide whether or not it's right for you. No should have to talk you in or out of anything.
Obviously, the band attachment design and the crown are 100% Jony Ive's babies. No amount of reasoning will convince God Of Design (GOD abbreviated
Band attachments are also (aside from cementing issue) bad design because:
1) they rob the case of volume that otherwise can be used for bigger battery
2) they limit the design choices for next versions, if Apple chooses to keep the v.1 bands compatible - the cutouts may look out of place in a new case design
3) they make Apple a watch strap company, with so many SKUs and the time needed for customers to try different bands in the store, etc. More resources diverted to straps = less resources working on actual computer technologies = bad software, more bugs
4) the attachments embedded in the case make the watch look fat; the lugs of the traditional watches make them look better and leave room for various designs while maintaining universal compatibility
Wow, you're shooting out some really deep points today. but Dang! Apple already made the watches! I hope at least 1 person there probably had some of these thoughts...
oh well, maybe next year
.Obviously, the band attachment design and the crown are 100% Jony Ive's babies. No amount of reasoning will convince God Of Design (GOD abbreviated
Band attachments are also (aside from cementing issue) bad design because:
1) they rob the case of volume that otherwise can be used for bigger battery
2) they limit the design choices for next versions, if Apple chooses to keep the v.1 bands compatible - the cutouts may look out of place in a new case design
3) they make Apple a watch strap company, with so many SKUs and the time needed for customers to try different bands in the store, etc. More resources diverted to straps = less resources working on actual computer technologies = bad software, more bugs
4) the attachments embedded in the case make the watch look fat; the lugs of the traditional watches make them look better and leave room for various designs while maintaining universal compatibility
The cementing issue that doesn't exist?
1) there need not be a bigger battery unless it can last 40+hrs, and that tiny space wouldn't do it. Hint: people will charge it nightly no matter what (it's the routine)
2) they don't in any way limit the design choices for many versions to come, at which point they can redesign it to anything they like. The cutouts would look out of place if you were designing the watch, luckily they have great designers.
3) they don't make Apple a strap company, that would be more like an accessory company, and Apple only has a handful of different straps thus far... Your resources comment makes no sense and thus doesn't get more than this response.
4) this may be your most embarrassing comment because the lugs can't make it look fatter than it is. They are filled in with straps, you can't see the grooves at all. And the watch is much thicker than the grooves so again doesn't make sense.
You struggle to make up ridiculous reasons why the Apple watch isn't good haha. Why not go to a wear forum and tell those people reasons why wear is good?
If you ask me, when you need convincing to purchase an item - or need to be talked into it - said item might not be right for you. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the Apple Watch or that it's not for you, but you should give it some careful, personal consideration, independent of others' opinions, as to what you would do with it and why you want it.
In so many ways, the Watch is like the iPad: no one needs either, but the people that bought the first generation model (like me) figured out a use(s) for the device that justified the cost. The Apple Watch didn't immediately strike me as something I'd want or use, but after the most recent keynote, I did a lot of looking around the internet for articles, watched a ton of YouTube videos, and figured out how I would use the Watch. That's why, barring anything crazy - overwhelmingly negative reviews being the main example - I'll likely be getting one.
I think you owe it to yourself to decide on your own whether to spend your money. There are a lot of excited people on this forum that know they want one and could pretty easily convince you that you do too, which is great because this is an exciting product and I definitely share their enthusiasm, but ultimately the decision to buy it needs to be your own.
In so many ways, the Watch is like the iPad: no one needs either, but the people that bought the first generation model (like me) figured out a use(s) for the device that justified the cost. The Apple Watch didn't immediately strike me as something I'd want or use, but after the most recent keynote, I did a lot of looking around the internet for articles, watched a ton of YouTube videos, and figured out how I would use the Watch. That's why, barring anything crazy - overwhelmingly negative reviews being the main example - I'll likely be getting one.
I think you owe it to yourself to decide on your own whether to spend your money. There are a lot of excited people on this forum that know they want one and could pretty easily convince you that you do too, which is great because this is an exciting product and I definitely share their enthusiasm, but ultimately the decision to buy it needs to be your own.
>The cementing issue that doesn't exist?
We'll see.
>1) there need not be a bigger battery unless it can last 40+hrs, and that tiny space wouldn't do it.
That "tiny space" could easily DOUBLE the battery. EASILY. Ask Piggie to calculate the volume of these two channels and estimate the battery volume.
>2) they don't in any way limit the design choices for many versions to come, at which point they can redesign it to anything they like.
To make v.1 bands compatible with v.N #⌚️, not only the width of the channels, but also exact curvature of their sides need to be preserved so that v.1 bands do not stick out awkwardly. Even if they accomplish this, the look of the channels may no longer be harmonic with the look of the case. (e.g. if the case no longer looks like something designed for the tastes of 80 year-olds)
>3) they don't make Apple a strap company, that would be more like an accessory company, and Apple only has a handful of different straps thus far...
Multiple straps and #⌚️ sizes and materials make an interaction with a potential customer so much more labor-intensive, compared to a sale of an iPhone, iPad, or a MacBook. "Can I try this band? Feels tight. Do you have a larger band? How about this band? Hmmm... Let me try the different watch material now... How about with this band? I'm not sure now about the watch size... lemme try a different size..." ad infinum. Apple is digging their own grave here. They used to have simple product lineups.
>4) the lugs can't make it look fatter than it is.
#⌚️ looks very fat from the side thanks to its low height/depth ratio:
Lugs make watches look longer and slicker from the side:
(aside from providing the horologists with infinite design choices, vs. the #⌚️'s trivial "rounded bar of soap" shape)
We'll see.
>1) there need not be a bigger battery unless it can last 40+hrs, and that tiny space wouldn't do it.
That "tiny space" could easily DOUBLE the battery. EASILY. Ask Piggie to calculate the volume of these two channels and estimate the battery volume.
>2) they don't in any way limit the design choices for many versions to come, at which point they can redesign it to anything they like.
To make v.1 bands compatible with v.N #⌚️, not only the width of the channels, but also exact curvature of their sides need to be preserved so that v.1 bands do not stick out awkwardly. Even if they accomplish this, the look of the channels may no longer be harmonic with the look of the case. (e.g. if the case no longer looks like something designed for the tastes of 80 year-olds)
>3) they don't make Apple a strap company, that would be more like an accessory company, and Apple only has a handful of different straps thus far...
Multiple straps and #⌚️ sizes and materials make an interaction with a potential customer so much more labor-intensive, compared to a sale of an iPhone, iPad, or a MacBook. "Can I try this band? Feels tight. Do you have a larger band? How about this band? Hmmm... Let me try the different watch material now... How about with this band? I'm not sure now about the watch size... lemme try a different size..." ad infinum. Apple is digging their own grave here. They used to have simple product lineups.
>4) the lugs can't make it look fatter than it is.
#⌚️ looks very fat from the side thanks to its low height/depth ratio:
Lugs make watches look longer and slicker from the side:
(aside from providing the horologists with infinite design choices, vs. the #⌚️'s trivial "rounded bar of soap" shape)