Tanning Beds. Anyone use them?

[mkrishnan]

I've taken Sarah to get her brief (8 minute) sessions a couple of times during the winter (e.g. once every 4 weeks or so), because she wanted it and she feels like she doesn't get enough sunlight in the winter... I do worry, though. She's extremely fair. We make sure her sessions are very short, and I try to get her to use the good lotions and stuff. I don't know. Maybe I need to stop being an enabler.

 

[leekohler]

Daveway- do yourself a favor and stay out of the sun. You'll be very glad you did when you're my age. I have avoided the sun since age 18 and my skin still looks awesome at 40. Granted, I've kept myself in good physical health as well, but I maintain that using sunscreen and generally avoiding the sun have helped me look the way I do now.

If you really need color that bad, use Neutrogena self tanner. It's good stuff and you aren't hurting your skin. I use it myself.

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Instant-Bronze-Sunless-Bronzer/dp/B0000537N5

 

[phillipjfry]

I made my girlfriend a deal, when she tans, I can smoke. So we can both smother ourselves in cancer evenly.

I can't stand being in a tanning bed after watching that movie Final Destination 15 or whichever is the latest. When the girls got trapped in the tanning bed and caught on fire
Movies leave impressions on me for some reaon
like in the 80's movie "Pulse" when the garbage disposal turned on automatically and shot glass into that guy's eye. Now I can't turn on a garbage disposal without looking away from the hole.

 

[Abstract]

Daveway- do yourself a favor and stay out of the sun. You'll be very glad you did when you're my age. I have avoided the sun since age 18 and my skin still looks awesome at 40. Granted, I've kept myself in good physical health as well, but I maintain that using sunscreen and generally avoiding the sun have helped me look the way I do now.

If you really need color that bad, use Neutrogena self tanner. It's good stuff and you aren't hurting your skin. I use it myself.

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Instant-Bronze-Sunless-Bronzer/dp/B0000537N5

Going outside and getting some sun once in awhile is quite nice. I wouldn't expect someone to give up everything that's bad in the world and stop living just because their skin will look better in 15 years.

While UV is bad for you, but I won't necessarily talk down people who go to the beach and enjoy the sun and surf, as long as they use some sense and be careful. However, a tanning bed?!? That's just artificially getting something that really should be gotten out of enjoyment of some sort. Going to the beach and going for a swim, hiking outdoors.....hey, there's UV outside, but we all need to enjoy our life. I can't say the same thing about paying money, going into a tiny room, lying down in a pod and getting exposed to a machine that was designed to for the sole purpose of generating harmful UV radiation.

And besides that, tanning salons should get taxed much higher than the general GST or other sales taxes.

 

[davidjearly]

My mum owns a tanning salon, so I have a fair bit of knowledge about them. Tanning beds DO NOT GIVE YOU CANCER. I can't enphasise that enough, don't just read what the papers say and believe it with no real evidence.

Our body's greatest defense against sun burn is to have a good base tan. Sunbeds allow you to have this base tan. Yes, being pale and jumping on a sunbed for 15 minutes will damage your skin. But if you start with about 5 minutes, and slowly build up your tan, after a couple of months, you will have a base tan that will stop you burning so easily.

Hope that made sense...I just can't stand the bad press sunbeds get and the constant "cancer beds" comments I hear all the time.

For the record, I don't personally use sunbeds because I'm not too fussed about having a tan (I'm outside alot anyway), but my mum has had alot of unfair critisism about owning a sunbed salon and this critisism has been based on twisted truths.

Is your mum an Oncologist?
Has she studied any form of cancer biology at all even?

Unless the answer is yes, I think most people should ignore this comment.

 

[xJulianx]

Is your mum an Oncologist?
Has she studied any form of cancer biology at all even?

Unless the answer is yes, I think most people should ignore this comment.

My statement has absolutely nothing to do with my Mum. I was just saying that she owns one, therefore I have researched the topic myself in the past from a point of interest.

My point still stands, serious skin damage comes from when you burn your skin (when it goes red). If you have a light base tan, your body can withstand the suns rays that little bit better.

Too many people are paranoid about burning, we need vital vitamins from the sun, and one vitamin (D I believe, but don't hold me to it) is only obtainable from UV rays.

I'm not saying you should use a sunbed everyday and then you won't get skin cancer, I'm just saying, that getting a light base tan, will help you to stop burning. Of course sun screen is always a must regardless.

 

[davidjearly]

My statement has absolutely nothing to do with my Mum. I was just saying that she owns one, therefore I have researched the topic myself in the past from a point of interest.

My point still stands, serious skin damage comes from when you burn your skin (when it goes red). If you have a light base tan, your body can withstand the suns rays that little bit better.

Too many people are paranoid about burning, we need vital vitamins from the sun, and one vitamin (D I believe, but don't hold me to it) is only obtainable from UV rays.

I'm not saying you should use a sunbed everyday and then you won't get skin cancer, I'm just saying, that getting a light base tan, will help you to stop burning. Of course sun screen is always a must regardless.

Vitamin D can be obtained by sun exposure but also in the diet. The intake of fish is particularly a good source of it.

Your statement is wrong, sorry. Too many people are STILL NOT paranoid enough about overexposure to the sun and its effects.

You really don't want to get into an argument with me over this unless you have REALLY done your research. The erythema caused by sunburn is an inflammation. It has nothing to do with your "base tan". The effects of sunburn will be seen if the amount of UV exposure is enough to overpower melanin, a protective pigment in the skin.

Please don't spread misinformation.

 

[xJulianx]

It's not misinformation. I think you are misunderstanding my point.

If person A, takes a walk along the beach on a hot, sunny day, wearing no sunscreen, and with very pale skin, then he/she is going to burn, very very quickly.

Person B on the other hand, has a small base tan, so when he/she takes the same walk, on the same day, it takes longer for their skin to burn.

I am not saying in any way, that having a base tan will make you immune to skin burning or subsequently, skin cancer. I am simply saying it gives you a little bit more protection from burning.

Personally, I would rather have a base tan (I don't use sunbeds btw, I'm just at the beach occasionally) and then be able to go out without having to worry about painting myself with led paint to avoid burning in the sun. Slight exaggeration I know, but I hope this makes my point clearer?

I'm not trying to argue with you at all...just voicing my point of view.

 

[Sdashiki]

Call me a goth but I like being fair.

i like my girls pale.

not orange.


the whole blonde with orange skin is sickening to view.

i got olive skin, and for being a purebred white-boy, it makes no sense. but i dont burn, nor do i need to tan.

 

[Xyl]

I was just saying that she owns one, therefore I have researched the topic myself in the past from a point of interest.

Unless your research has included reputable scientific journals and papers, I would stop arguing.

 

[xJulianx]

Unless your research has included reputable scientific journals and papers, I would stop arguing.

I'm not arguing.

My research was done on a few panflets about sunbed tanning. I am not depositing the notion that I am some kind of professional on this topic, just voicing my opinion, based on what I have read, and on how I live.

 

[leekohler]

Going outside and getting some sun once in awhile is quite nice. I wouldn't expect someone to give up everything that's bad in the world and stop living just because their skin will look better in 15 years.

While UV is bad for you, but I won't necessarily talk down people who go to the beach and enjoy the sun and surf, as long as they use some sense and be careful. However, a tanning bed?!? That's just artificially getting something that really should be gotten out of enjoyment of some sort. Going to the beach and going for a swim, hiking outdoors.....hey, there's UV outside, but we all need to enjoy our life. I can't say the same thing about paying money, going into a tiny room, lying down in a pod and getting exposed to a machine that was designed to for the sole purpose of generating harmful UV radiation.

And besides that, tanning salons should get taxed much higher than the general GST or other sales taxes.

If you knew me, you'd know that I'm the last person anyone could accuse of not living as you say. I wasn't talking down, just giving advice based on experience. I'm out in the sun plenty, but I wear sunscreen or sunblock every time. A little hassle? Sure, but for me it's worked great. It doesn't hurt getting acting work either.

 

[shecky]

I'm not arguing.

My research was done on a few panflets about sunbed tanning. I am not depositing the notion that I am some kind of professional on this topic, just voicing my opinion, based on what I have read, and on how I live.

where did you get the pamphlets? your mom's tanning salon?

 

[xJulianx]

where did you get the pamphlets? your mom's tanning salon?

Yeah.

I can't remember who made them, but they all seemed to be from reputable sources. One of them was the SunBed Association actually.

 

[shecky]

ok. you do not seem to understand the notion of bias. i think that getting information about the alleged safety of a product that is given to you by someone/someones who make a living on people using that product MIGHT POSSIBLY not be the most objective source of said information.

 

[xJulianx]

ok. you do not seem to understand the notion of bias. i think that getting information about the alleged safety of a product that is given to you by people who make a living on people using that product MIGHT POSSIBLY not be the most objective source of said information.

I do understand the notion of bias. And I completely agree, anything sourced from the sunbed association is likely, biased. But, the information they are giving has to be legit, they can't just outright lie.

Right?

 

[Abstract]

My point still stands, serious skin damage comes from when you burn your skin (when it goes red). If you have a light base tan, your body can withstand the suns rays that little bit better.

Serious skin damage comes from the UV you expose your skin to. Skin going red is just an effect of being exposed to UV. Same with this "light base tan". If you expose your skin to UV just to get this base tan, then honestly, what's the point? Use sunscreen and get your tan naturally. I wear sunscreen and I still get tans. Of course, I go to the beach every week. I'm going at 8 am tomorrow for a morning swim with friends.

Too many people are paranoid about burning, we need vital vitamins from the sun, and one vitamin (D I believe, but don't hold me to it) is only obtainable from UV rays.

That is the easiest vitamin to get. It's not difficult, even when indoors. People with a desk by the window get enough in minutes.

I wasn't talking down, just giving advice based on experience. I'm out in the sun plenty, but I wear sunscreen or sunblock every time. A little hassle? Sure, but for me it's worked great. It doesn't hurt getting acting work either.

I wrote my last post in a hurry and meant that I didn't mean to talk down to others, or scare them about going out and getting some UV. It probably didn't come out that way. It's obviously very natural to be exposed to sunlight, and ultimately, to UV as well.

If you knew me, you'd know that I'm the last person anyone could accuse of not living as you say.

I meant in general, people need to go outside and do things, but a tanning bed isn't exactly the best reason to have a tan. If you go out and do things, and get some exposure to UV, that's fine. Being careful doesn't mean avoiding the sun. Just wear sunscreen and a hat or something of the sort.

 

[iBlue]

xJulianx, the research you've done is from rather bias sources. Take that with a grain of salt, because while it might not be an outright lie, it's just cherry-picking the bits of info which suit the purpose best.


My purely personal view is just not to over-do it. No reason to cower in sunscreened fear but no reason to go blazing crazy over it either.

 

[xJulianx]

xJulianx, the research you've done is from rather bias sources. Take that with a grain of salt.


My purely personal view is just not to over-do it. No reason to cower in sunscreened fear but no reason to go blazing crazy over it either.

I agree completely, it is from a biased source, but I'm trying to use that to back up my view, which is very similar to yours...

..."My purely personal view is just not to over-do it. No reason to cower in sunscreened fear but no reason to go blazing crazy over it either."

I feel much better having a bit of a tan, I'm less prone to burning straight away, I have a bit of colour to my skin (which I like).

 

[Don't panic]

i had posted this before, but for some reason it didn't publish
anyways: link

The association of use of sunbeds with cutaneous malignant melanoma and other skin cancers: A systematic review.

Exposure to solar ultraviolet (UV) radiation is a known cause of skin cancer. Sunbed use represents an increasingly frequent source of artificial UV exposure in light-skinned populations. To assess the available evidence of the association between sunbed use and cutaneous malignant melanoma (melanoma) and other skin cancers, a systematic review of the literature till March 2006 on epidemiological and biological studies on sunbed use was performed in Pubmed, ISI Web of Science, Embase, Pascal, Cochrane library, Lilacs and Medcarib. Search for keywords in the title and in the abstract was done systematically and supplemented by manual searches. Only case-control, cohort or cross-sectional studies were selected. Data were abstracted by means of a standardized data-collection protocol. Based on 19 informative studies, ever-use of sunbeds was positively associated with melanoma (summary relative risk, 1.15; 95% CI, 1.00-1.31), although there was no consistent evidence of a dose-response relationship. First exposure to sunbeds before 35 years of age significantly increased the risk of melanoma, based on 7 informative studies (summary relative risk, 1.75; 95% CI, 1.35-2.26). The summary relative risk of 3 studies of squamous cell carcinoma showed an increased risk. For basal cell carcinoma, the studies did not support an association. The evidence does not support a protective effect of the use of sunbeds against damage to the skin from subsequent sun exposure.
Young adults should be discouraged from using indoor tanning equipment and restricted access to sunbeds by minors should be strongly considered.
Int J Cancer. 2007 Mar 1;120(5):1116-22.

 

[leekohler]

I wrote my last post in a hurry and meant that I didn't mean to talk down to others, or scare them about going out and getting some UV. It probably didn't come out that way. It's obviously very natural to be exposed to sunlight, and ultimately, to UV as well.



I meant in general, people need to go outside and do things, but a tanning bed isn't exactly the best reason to have a tan. If you go out and do things, and get some exposure to UV, that's fine. Being careful doesn't mean avoiding the sun. Just wear sunscreen and a hat or something of the sort.

Ok then. Sorry I misunderstood.

 

[Blue Velvet]

I've had a sun-bed session in the last 6 months; paid for 5 in advance but never went back after the first... didn't like what it did to my skin, and I've got moles and other bits and pieces the doctor is keeping an eye on. I'll settle for staying pale.

There's no way in hell that sun-beds or excessive sun are good for you.

 

[iGav]

I'll settle for staying pale.

My favourite on a lady. I don't do the leathery handbag look at all.

 

[xJulianx]

i had posted this before, but for some reason it didn't publish
anyways: link

A formal retraction of everything I've said may well be order I believe

 

[macmama]

I've been known to tan for 10-12 minutes in a low-watt bed maybe 2-3 times in the winter. It's just a bit of phytotherapy in the dark, cold weather for me. I don't stay in long enough to really get any color, as I don't care for that "bronze in January" look.