Do you remember Microsoft and the Internet Explorer issue on Europe? pretty much the same anti-trust case here or perhaps not. I mean Safari has been there for ages.
Yet no one complains about Safari.
Do you remember Microsoft and the Internet Explorer issue on Europe? pretty much the same anti-trust case here or perhaps not. I mean Safari has been there for ages.
OK - put your money where your mouth is and illustrate this whole "might not be able to pay your bills" thing with actual figures.
- how much a struggling artist typically earns in three months from Spotify's free tier.
- the % those earnings are of their total revenue from music.
From this graphic:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/infobeautiful2/selling_out_550.png
Someone here said 2.2 billion.
Ok enough talking who we blame here the Apple or the blonde?
still waiting for her breakup song about Spotify..... though Spotify did do a break up song about her...I'm sure in a few months time she will write a song about how she broke up with apple.
Yeah, teens usually don't listen to a music artist once that artist reaches 30 and those who listened to her as teens grow up and realize their mistake. She probably will try to reconnect with her country roots and hope people over 30 will reconnect with her.
Well Steve Jobs is dead for one thing so his "values" don't have to be upheld by Apple. The rest of your post is senseless. Just because they have money doesn't mean they should foot the bill for your free listening pleasure and to fill the artists pockets while also footing the bill for hosting and promoting unknown and known artists.Like Apple needs money. Apple makes money everyday and they can offer Apple Music for free for all of us while paying the artists properly. I' m sure they would not even feel a pinch since "Steve Jobs doesn't care about the money".
Flawed argument. No plot thickening. Just an angry rant.
Yeah, teens usually don't listen to a music artist once that artist reaches 30 and those who listened to her as teens grow up and realize their mistake. She probably will try to reconnect with her country roots and hope people over 30 will reconnect with her.
I respect you opinion but disagree. Neither of us know her. She’s controversial in a way that half of the people love her and half do not believe a single word she says. I’m kinda in the middle. Skeptical but not hateful towards her. At least people are talking about it. We’ll see if other artists join in.
I have not read the whole thread, therefore apologize if I repeat someone's argument.
I consider myself a Taylor Swift fan, and own Red and 1989. I like a lot about her. Liked her WSJ opinion piece where she withdrew from Spotify (well, I'm a bigger Apple fan than Swift fan as we will see).
First, I emphasize that Apple is negotiating a 71.5% payout, higher than the standard 70%, after the trial. So they recognized there might be an economic consequence to the three month trial. 1.5% forever, versus three months of a zero base should be considered a "rape of the treasury" by any thinking business person. Yes, let's put some skin in the game and make this work, it is no sure thing for Apple, coming in late, etc.
Apple has paid for the entire set up of this service, Apple Music, all the servers, account setup, advertising, negotiating with the music business industry, purchase of Beats. This is their skin in the game. No guarantee at all that it pays off.
Apple is a public company and has a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders, like it or not.
So, Indie musicians won't get any payout from July thru September. If Apple hadn't started this service, Indie musicians would not have gotten anything from the company. Ah, but you say all the paid Spotify will go on hiatus for three months and they will lose that revenue. The argument is false because it implies that Apple Music will be the 100 million paid customer success Apple has set as a goal. So, from 20 million Spotify payers at 70% to 100 million payers at 71.5% isn't a good bargain? This short sighted thinking may explain why the music business industry is so weak, but that topic has many more facets to explore.
For Indie musicians, you know this is coming, plan your life accordingly. It will be a success, and you will "sell" more music on iTunes during the summer. See you in September.
For Taylor. You have demonstrated a brilliance in navigating all aspects of your profession. I don't know for sure, but I don't think you have a disciplined understanding of economics (not just pontificating, BA econ, MBA).
Also, your music I love but there must be a higher level. So, now you are rich, go undercover and sign up for some philosophy, psychology, english, history and economics classes at Columbia or somewhere and come back in a couple of years and set new all time sales records for a recording artist. And Apple Music will be there to help.
Its still not like that for a couple of reasons.
For every candle or cookie sold, that candle or cookie has to be made.
This is not the case with a digital music file. Its not as though the artist makes 100 copies of the file, and when they have all been streamed they have to spend time making another 100 copies.
As I said way back at the start of the thread, her stance here contradicts her earlier stance with Spotify.
Her stance with Spotify was that struggling artists make virtually no money from streaming.
Her stance with Apple Music is that struggling artists are losing out on significant revenue.
So which is it? Virtually no money, or significant revenue?
If her argument about Spotify is the case, then with Apple Music those same artists are losing just three months worth of virtually no money.
Yeah, teens usually don't listen to a music artist once that artist reaches 30 and those who listened to her as teens grow up and realize their mistake. She probably will try to reconnect with her country roots and hope people over 30 will reconnect with her.
A couple days ago BuzzFeed reported that Taylor Swift's new album, "1989", would not be available to stream on Apple Music, denying the service of one of the best-selling albums of the last two years. Today, Swift penned an open letter to the Cupertino company explaining her decision.
Swift, who calls Apple one of her best partners in selling her music, says that while she is able to take care of herself and her band, crew and management with money from live shows, indie artists do not have the same luxury. She explains that her sentiments about the three-month free trial are echoed by "every artist, writer and producer in my social circles who are afraid to speak up publicly because we admire and respect Apple so much."![]()
She goes on to say that she understands Apple is working toward a goal of paid streaming and that Apple Music could be the first streaming service that "gets it right" in her eyes in regards to artist compensation. However, she also points out that Apple is "astronomically successful" and could afford to pay artists, writers and producers during the three-month free trial. She closes the open letter asking Apple to reconsider its policy.
This isn't the first time Apple has received criticism for not paying labels and artists royalties during the 3-month free trial. Last week, indie labels from the United Kingdom who housed artists like Adele argued that the trial period would "put people out of business". Singer-songwriter Anton Newcombe also spoke out about the policy, claiming the Cupertino company threatened to ban his music from iTunes if he did not accept no royalties during the 3-month free trial. Apple denied the claim.
Apple Music will launch in just under 10 days, going live on June 30 as part of an upcoming iOS 8.4 update. After the service's free three-month trial it will cost $9.99 per month for individuals and $14.99 a month for families up to 6.
Article Link: Taylor Swift Criticizes Apple Music's Free Trial in Open Letter
Without "free" streams (which generate some revenue at least) people would just go back to piracy, which provides better quality anyway.
I have not read the whole thread, therefore apologize if I repeat someone's argument.
I consider myself a Taylor Swift fan, and own Red and 1989. I like a lot about her. Liked her WSJ opinion piece where she withdrew from Spotify (well, I'm a bigger Apple fan than Swift fan as we will see).
First, I emphasize that Apple is negotiating a 71.5% payout, higher than the standard 70%, after the trial. So they recognized there might be an economic consequence to the three month trial. 1.5% forever, versus three months of a zero base should be considered a "rape of the treasury" by any thinking business person. Yes, let's put some skin in the game and make this work, it is no sure thing for Apple, coming in late, etc.
Apple has paid for the entire set up of this service, Apple Music, all the servers, account setup, advertising, negotiating with the music business industry, purchase of Beats. This is their skin in the game. No guarantee at all that it pays off.
Apple is a public company and has a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders, like it or not.
So, Indie musicians won't get any payout from July thru September. If Apple hadn't started this service, Indie musicians would not have gotten anything from the company. Ah, but you say all the paid Spotify will go on hiatus for three months and they will lose that revenue. The argument is false because it implies that Apple Music will be the 100 million paid customer success Apple has set as a goal. So, from 20 million Spotify payers at 70% to 100 million payers at 71.5% isn't a good bargain? This short sighted thinking may explain why the music business industry is so weak, but that topic has many more facets to explore.
For Indie musicians, you know this is coming, plan your life accordingly. It will be a success, and you will "sell" more music on iTunes during the summer. See you in September.
For Taylor. You have demonstrated a brilliance in navigating all aspects of your profession. I don't know for sure, but I don't think you have a disciplined understanding of economics (not just pontificating, BA econ, MBA).
Also, your music I love but there must be a higher level. So, now you are rich, go undercover and sign up for some philosophy, psychology, english, history and economics classes at Columbia or somewhere and come back in a couple of years and set new all time sales records for a recording artist. And Apple Music will be there to help.
OK, Taylor, how about you be "generous" with your $$$millions and to your fans and prospective fans by giving up a bit of your profits to support Apple and its customers via whom you have benefited greatly?
Just a suggestion in the spirit of your open letter...
Are you aware of her generosity to her fans and causes? Again - I'm not TS fan, but your "request" is pretty ignorant of everything she's already doing.