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You are confusing continuing to supply someone with tangible goods vs a good that can be reproduced at no magical cost to the supplier. In the firmer there is a real cost to the continued relationship vs the latter; where supplying the good has no cost and may result in greater sales later.

I'm not sure you addressed the right person since I'm not the one who came up with that analogy. Like I said, analogies are dangerous. I merely tried to make that analogy more closely reflect reality. You make a good point though so you should reply to the original poster; further validating my comment that analogies are dangerous, lol.
 
dude, just apologize for most of the crap you've been spewing in this thread and move on with faced saved.. now you're just digging a deeper hole by playing this card.
it's 11:59 p.m. on a sunday night.. of course she is the reason.

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Yes, Apple caved to Taylor Swift. A company worth 700 billion dollars caved to a woman worth 200 million dollars. It wasn't anyone else, it wasn't labels trying to talk to Apple, it was Taylor Swift. Next thing she needs to do is talk about those iPhone prices. Since you seem to think Apple caves to her, she might be able to get a little knocked off.
 
I doubt that she's taking it off now since Apple is now going to pay.
boycott |ˈboiˌkät| verb [ with obj. ] withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.

she protested.. and decision was reversed.
why wouldn't she put her music on there.. she obviously likes apple and praised them multiple times in her letter
 
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Yes, Apple caved to Taylor Swift. A company worth 700 billion dollars caved to a woman worth 200 million dollars. It wasn't anyone else, it wasn't labels trying to talk to Apple, it was Taylor Swift. Next thing she needs to do is talk about those iPhone prices. Since you seem to think Apple caves to her, she might be able to get a little knocked off.
if apple caved to labels etc in a more businesslike manner, they would of done so at more business like times.. like maybe on a monday during 9-5 pst.. not at the slowest of all hours in a week.. apple put this fire out before it got too large / too out of hand
 
boycott |ˈboiˌkät| verb [ with obj. ] withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.

she protested.. and decision was reversed.
why wouldn't she put her music on there.. she obviously likes apple and praised them multiple times in her letter
You're completely contradicting yourself. I said she no doubt will put her album back on there. You not even reading my post properly. You're fighting against your own argument. Just let it go.
 
if apple caved to labels etc in a more businesslike manner, they would of done so at more business like times.. like maybe on a monday during 9-5 pst.. not at the slowest of all hours in a week.. apple put this fire out before it got too large / too out of hand

Not necessarily. There were likely late night meetings about this sort of thing. And there likely aren't going to be late night meetings over Taylor Swift. Spotify seems to be doing quite well without her, and Apple Music would have as well. It's just when you get large groups of bands saying they're not going to be a part of it that you run into an issue. This might have just been Apple trying to quiet this down as quickly as they had a response.

Or we can assume it was Taylor Swift.
 
Or we can assume it was Taylor Swift.
there's a 50 page thread started this morning about taylor swift's open letter to apple.. it's made news at major outlets and all over social media.. less than a day later at wee hours into the night, apple tweets a major policy change (unprecedented i believe)..

but yeah, we can just assume it was because of her :rolleyes:
 
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there's a 50 page thread started this morning about taylor swift's open letter to apple.. less than a day later at wee hours into the night, apple tweets a major policy change (unprecedented i believe)..

but yeah, we can just assume it was because of her :rolleyes:

So you're saying that Apple went to all the labels again, spoke with them, got agreements, and then put out the tweet in the course of a day because Taylor Swift whined? Or maybe they had the meetings because of more than one person?

Taylor Swift doesn't need an ego, you guys have one for her. ;)
 
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Before I really go to bed some of you people would sale your mothers to a Bangkok sweat shop for a $1 a month salary before admitting that Apple initially made the wrong decision here. Some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves and reevaluate what was said here today. I cannot believe some of the Apples defenses people came up with to justify the screwing of a artist. This is 10 times worst than bashing Samsung.
 
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I don't think it was Swift that did this, let's be honest with ourselves.

Well I mean let's look at the evidence, it was public knowledge Apple wasn't gonna pay for their free trial, so Apple had made that decision and was going forward with it.

Taylor Swift pens an open letter, it gets big publicity, Eddie Cue NOW tweets they will pay the artists

He also directly @ mentions Taylor and says "we hear you" acknowledging her letter.

What other proof do you need ?
 
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So you're saying that Apple went to all the labels again, spoke with them, got agreements, and then put out the tweet in the course of a day because Taylor Swift whined? Or maybe they had the meetings because of more than one person?

Taylor Swift doesn't need an ego, you guys have one for her. ;)
haha.. you two are_____!

does this change your mind?

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Well I mean let's look at the evidence, it was public knowledge Apple wasn't gonna pay for their free trial, so Apple had made that decision and was going forward with it.

Taylor Swift pens an open letter, it gets big publicity, Eddie Cue tweets they will pay the artists

He also directly @ mentions Taylor and says "we hear you" acknowledging her letter.

What other proof do you need ?

Yeah, she was obviously PART of it. But I doubt she did this by herself. The timing is weird, I'll admit, but they're not likely to change a policy in one day. This was, likely, coming over a few days of artists complaining and making it clear they wouldn't be a part of it. They could have done just fine without Swift.
 
There were obviously more people involved and I'm willing to bet that in a few days it'll be in the news the multiple artists or labels went after Apple about this. She's not that powerful. I wish some people would stop believing so.

She's not powerful in the sense that she can force Apple to do ANYTHING she wants

but an issue that has a reasonable argument against it paired with her status is what pushed this through.

It wasn't the labels, the labels agreed to this hence why it was going through in the first place.

and as she said, artists have complained about these practices including ones voicing it directly to Apple as well only to be ignored.

To think that as the current highest selling artist in music she has no huge impact or influence when her voice is put behind something that makes a decent amount of sense would be naive.
 
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She's not powerful in the sense that she can force Apple to do ANYTHING she wants

but an issue that has a reasonable argument against it paired with her status is what pushed this through.

It wasn't the labels, the labels agreed to this hence why it was going through in the first place.

and as she said, artists have complained about these practices including ones voicing it directly to Apple as well only to be ignored.

To think that as the current highest selling artist in music she has no huge impact or influence when her voice is put behind something that makes a decent amount of sense would be naive.
Okay, so you really think that Apple changed contract terms with the labels overnight from one letter from Taylor Swift? Just think about that. That's not logical.
 
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