I think the real question is how does the adapter DAC compare to the old one that was built into the 6s. If I had to guess, it is probably a cheaper one, unfortunately.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-audio-quality.1997853/
I think the real question is how does the adapter DAC compare to the old one that was built into the 6s. If I had to guess, it is probably a cheaper one, unfortunately.
I wonder what process was used to make this chip? It seems a good application for 22FDX going forward.Enter someone to make a super small lightning to headphone jack cable with a high quality DAC in it. I'd have bought that for my 6s if available. I want Audio Quest to make a smaller lightning connected version of their Black Dragonfly.
The reason would be cost - why would Apple incur the expense of a DAC that has extra logic to isolate internal, high-frequency noise if it serves no benefit in an external configuration?
Does it make any sense to buy this for a 6 or 6s to use wired headphones through the lightning port. Are there any benefits over the standard jack on the phone already?
The internal speakers.
I guess Apple also killed the low end (<30$) wired headphone market for the iPhone with this move. Headphone manufacturers will have to pay the lightning licence fees and need to include a dac that matches at least the earpods. Without Apple scale i doubt this is possible.
Maybe next keynote we will get different colored adapters like the watch bands!
It's a shame that people who bought $500+ high-end high quality headphones and have all of their music in FLAC will have to use a dongle with a piece of **** DAC in it.
No it's to convert digital signals to analog sound.DAC includes "protection" so you only can play iTunes purchased music?
Anybody knows if the "quality" of the DAC can impact the quality of sound? If yes... how good are the ones provided by Apple? Are there better ones?
This just means, if we don't like Apple's DAC, we can simply buy an adapter from a different company that has a better built in DAC.
We have MORE options than ever before.
Yes, and how does the quality of this adapter DAC compare to the DAC for the audio jack in earlier iPhones?
Also... for those that are audiophiles, the output amplifier can be better and better matched to your particular headphones.
I understand that the internal speakers require amps, but there are three amps in the phone. Assuming one for each internal speaker, what is the third one for?
On the other hand, there was nothing stopping this from happening in the past.
The microphone input, perhaps.
hahaha!, this is such an idiotic mess. So now they run one in the phone for the call speaker and everyone else needs to put some random DAC into their headphones. Who knows what you get from a 3rd party.
I understand that the internal speakers require amps, but there are three amps in the phone. Assuming one for each internal speaker, what is the third one for?
I guess I should have put "necessarily" in italics and bold.
DACs at the chip level are relatively simple circuits. Especially for low sample rate high-resolution applications like audio. For such systems there's an incoming PCM serial digital stream representing a sampled time-varying audio signal. That gets interpolated to a higher sample rate, delta-sigma modulated, 1-bit converted to analog, and ultimately low-pass filtered and amplified, producing an analog output signal. I suspect Apple is using some variation of this architecture, possibly more complex, and likely with their own secret sauce. In any case, the DAC in die form is tiny, yields are high, and therefore the cost is low.
Filtering to remove higher frequency digital logic noise from the desired audio spectrum is part of any mixed signal system and par for the course. Fortunately there's wide spectral separation between unwanted high frequency logic noise and the audio spectrum. Good design techniques and the use of chip capacitors/resistors make that relatively easy. And cheap.
Also, in the case of Apple's DAC adapter and digital AirPods, not having the DAC and output amplifier inside the iPhone where it would be subjected to far greater digital noise and at greater amplitudes, should make filtering even easier. Yes, there's a Lightening digital interface at the input side of the adapter that can potentially induce digital noise. But those digital lines are low-level shielded differential pairs that help attenuate that potential noise source.
was interested until you said digital noise![]()
This just means, if we don't like Apple's DAC, we can simply buy an adapter from a different company that has a better built in DAC.
We have MORE options than ever before.
It wouldn't. They make news from something as obvious as the sky being blue.If there wasn't a DAC....how else would make sound?