Not the least bit surprised on this one. Great way to reduce production costs.
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Teardown Finds iPhone SE and iPhone 5s Displays Interchangeable
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It's never fails to stagger me how people can be such hypocrites. How many in this thread alone have said the 5S is the best iPhone ever made.
Now you find out that the new phone has a lot of the same internals suddenly it's junk.
The SE takes everything that was great with the 5S and gives you more. Better camera, better battery, better processor etc. People clambered for a 4" iPhone and now you have one with the same processing power as the flagships you complain.
Reusing parts is not only common sense but it makes financial sense and is good for the environment when we do live with limited resources.
Instead of deriding Apple lets applaud their sensibility
Now you find out that the new phone has a lot of the same internals suddenly it's junk.
The SE takes everything that was great with the 5S and gives you more. Better camera, better battery, better processor etc. People clambered for a 4" iPhone and now you have one with the same processing power as the flagships you complain.
Reusing parts is not only common sense but it makes financial sense and is good for the environment when we do live with limited resources.
Instead of deriding Apple lets applaud their sensibility
I don't know how many people just fly off with cynicism. It's a small iPhone, which a lot of people like. It's not the absolute best, but it doesn't cost as much either. Yes, the screen has less definition, but that makes its battery life better and lowers the price about $16. This has a fantastic processor, same as the 6s. The smaller screen really zips around. It's $399! I predict it will sell really a lot. If you want the premium, the best phone that can be built this summer, with the technology they've worked on several years, it will cost a little more. That's the business method. It's a great little phone if that is what you want. Buy that and put it on the T-mobile plan, that's a cheap unlimited-data phone. Don't like it? Not for you.
To quote Mac 128:
"And why the hell would they spend the money to R&D a new iPhone 6 series design 6 months before the 6s becomes last years model?
How is it a Frankenstein phone? Nothing about its exterior appearance is freakish, it's still the same elegant design as it was created with, and the internals are all the latest iPhone components, with the exception of basically the screen which is an excellent screen to begin with, and already engineered for the device.
Add to that they managed to actually drop the price $250 over the only other phone to have most of these features, because they didn't re-engineer this from the ground up.
You're criticizing Apple for lack of innovation, when none was called for here. If Apple had released the SE for $549, then you could criticize all you want, but they didn't. This wasn't the 5c, which was the same phone crammed into a plastic shell and sold for the same price it would have been if they'd left it in a much more desirable metal case and bumped it down just like the 5s which followed. It was an updated 5s introduced at a price less than what the 5s was already selling for!
There will be a new 7 series 4" phone which will cost $200 more than the SE, which will be engineered from scratch. But trying to diminish what this SE represents for both Apple and the customer is pathetic."
The excise taxes in India are around 20%, if you add VAT at 15% you get $400 * 1.35 = $540
So, a large part of the price you can blame on the India government itself.
The price is 39000 / 66.4 = $587, so not that different from the US price if you account for all those taxes.
The 6s is 43000 / 66.4 = $648 (So, despite taxes its essentially the same price as in the USA, that's a major bargain.
On BGR they argue that the phone will fall back down to around 30000 Rs, that's $135 less, which I don't really see happening to this extent, at least not before October.
I believe all that is being implied by "Frankenstein" is simply that the phone is many parts of other phones rolled into one, much like Frankenstein's monster. I don't believe the physical looks of the device have anything to do with such a statement.
No problem with me, going to be awesome getting my SE next week. Will be a work horse for many years.
I sincerely hope that Apple didn't expect a round of applause for anything introduced in the last keynote, this included. I've never seen such a boring keynote in my life, from just about any company. It just seems like a waste of everyone's time to even have one if they didn't really have anything to announce...Apple wants a standing ovation for selling a 'cheaper' phone which is essentially recycled junk?
The iPhone 6S is actually a nice phone except I don't like the design particularly those plastic antenna bands. That phone with 3D Touch display (and the display quality is really great vs the iPhone 5S) - I would say that particular model is $200 overpriced. $649 for 16GB is way too much. $550 is tops and that's being generous.
I'm not sure about that because of touch ID, but I really love the back of iPhone 5, that slate black was gorgeous compared to the space grey we have today so it'd be cool to see a slate SE
I think it's mostly about fixing the broken screen glasses, which a lot of people do. All the rest, like the teardowns, are just advertisement for exactly that.
I'm not sure about that because of touch ID, but I really love the back of iPhone 5, that slate black was gorgeous compared to the space grey we have today so it'd be cool to see a slate SE
Yeah I realised with the touch ID
The other problem would be the camera flash as the 5S has a true tone flash, and the 5 does not. I do like slate better than space grey though
Hahaha!
Pay $50 more over 5S for bleeding edge specs = "Apple is ripping us off!"
Point out Android doesn't even give you an option of a bleeding edge 4" phone = "Oh, because Android doesn't rip people off!"
And remember how badly the Z3 compact sold? = "It's all Apple's fault people only want small powerful phones made by Apple!"
I have an iPhone 5 since release, and believe me at some point you just don't care. I had a loose connector and the battery that I replaced and now the camera is dead, which I'm going to replace later today. If I were to do all of that at an Apple™ Store, then I would have paid more than 100 EUR. Instead I paid merely 30 EUR. Replacing the camera would cost me another 100 EUR for sure, I got the camera for 8 EUR.
Yup you are correct. Taxes are to be blamed but I honestly don't see the value in the 5se at that price. Don't see it will sell very well this year but come next year (when the new model is available in India) when Apple reduce its price to under 30k it will sell well. Indian market is price sensitive and those who want Apple at cheap rates won't mind using one year old model, still plenty of takers of 5s here.
Fair point. I usually don't keep a phone for more than a year so don't face this situation although i am planning to stick with 6 till 7s so I might very well be in a position you are but fingers crossed that it holds up well.
Which means - it is not worth to buy SE... unfortunately. If you have a bad battery on your 5S, replace it then and keep using.
So now we know the real reason Apple invented a machine that could disassemble an iPhone so the parts could be recycled. Now they can build new phones out of old parts, and when a new model comes out, they don't have to sell off old stock at reduced prices, but can simply disassemble them, and use the parts in full priced phones.
So much for Apple caring about the environment, but what better way is there to hide their greed than under the banner of ecological concern? Given their recent antics, it shouldn't be surprising.
So much for Apple caring about the environment, but what better way is there to hide their greed than under the banner of ecological concern? Given their recent antics, it shouldn't be surprising.