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Teardown Finds iPhone SE and iPhone 5s Displays Interchangeable

You are the One said:
No problem with me, going to be awesome getting my SE next week. Will be a work horse for many years.

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I saw it yesterday, I wanted to replace my old good 5S... not sure it's gonna last more than a half year. I looks VERY cheaply built and didn't leave a good impression. It also wasn't blazing fast as advertised. So I asked a refund and didn't buy that crap.
 
mj1108 said:
Well, there's the reason the SE is so inexpensive.
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You call $399 inexpensive? I'll tell you what is inexpensive and I think people are crazy to not consider it even if it is from Microsoft and that's the Lumia 640 Windows Phone. I paid $147 total with the $48 phone and a $99 200GB SD memory card and that's with a larger screen, quad-core Snap Dragon and no regrets so far ($14 a month equivalent AT&T based plan through Tracfone for a one year renewable card with 3000 minutes, 3000 texts and 3GB of data, which is more than I need for as little phone "surfing" as I do and meanwhile with WiFi it acts like an oversized iPod Touch. It integrates with my Subaru's Bluetooth just fine as well and can Miracast to any device supporting Miracast like Roku and it's upgradeable to Windows 10 for free).

Where can you get a 200GB iPhone for ANY amount of money, let alone $147 brand new? I've got thousands of songs on there, dozens of tv shows and a dozen movies and STILL have 100GB left for the 8MP camera and 1080P video. There's also a dual-sim version for slightly more that will let you run a European SIM for travel without removing your old one. All my M4V movies play fine (but then I have no encryption any longer on my files so they play on anything that supports MP4 in general) and of course AAC works fine so basically all my Mac media files play fine. I copied them straight onto the SD card using my Mac Mini's reader (yes I can confirm the 2012 Mac Mini's SD slot is USB3 based as I was getting 90MB/sec read times and 55MB/sec write times) and I can FTP the files directly onto the phone as well (not hard). The phone backs up to the cloud. No Mac integration needed. I found Apps for everything I personally need (same games, etc. like Bejeweled and Angry Birds). Frankly, since less people use Windows phones, there's far less malware (kind of like OS X enjoyed for so many years so you'd think more Mac people would appreciate it).

And people won't touch Windows phones because there's a few less Apps available? I guess people enjoy getting RIPPED OFF. Go buy another $400-700+ phone every year or every other year plus pay $70+ a month. Enjoy (I'd rather use the savings to buy a new Macbook Pro in short order). :rolleyes:

(You can use an iPhone 5 with Tracfone, though BTW if you don't need $70+ month plans; so at least you could get a cheaper plan with the iPhone SE. That would at least help).
 
Nevaborn said:
. . . .Reusing parts is not only common sense but it makes financial sense and is good for the environment when we do live with limited resources. . . . .
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Thats exactly the point. I wanted the smaller form factor with the same high quality components. I did not care about it being low cost or thin, I just wanted the best or so near the best that it did not matter. Which is what Apple used to be about. Now everything has to make financial sense. The original iPhone did not make financial sense, it was a huge gamble. One that paid off, but it was not a given that it would. Apple is seriously damaging their image by making cheap phones, but it probably gripes the CEO that they are not the volume leader.

Oh and they are not reusing anything. These are new parts manufactured to 3 year old specs. It does not make a hill of beans difference to the environment that these are old displays designs or new display designs. In fact, it is probably just the opposite given Apple's fanaticism with green, i'll bet that the old displays designs are nowhere near as earth friendly as the new designs in the iPhone 6 so this even goes against their own PR about only doing whats right for the environment. What a load.
 
mayerkim87 said:
So everything that I'm reading about SE is that it's just a omelette of spare iPhone parts that Apple had laying around, possibly from customer returns, and repackaged into a "new" phone. I guess the redeeming point is the lower price point at a current technology level. Yay or nay?
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You are kidding right? Customer returns?
These aren't refurbished phones.
You have no idea how the electronic industry works.
Actually the writer of this article has not a clue either.

Car manufacturers, appliance manufacturers and a host of other industries reuse designs.
It's common. Why invent something new when off the shelf will work just fine? Also it's off your own shelf so you get lower prices through economies of scale.
 
Traverse said:
I played around with the SE today and my friend's 5S. I'm very tempted by the SE, but I can tell a difference between the SE screen and my iPhone 6. The increased contrast and "Retina HD" make a difference. Whether that's big enough to sway an SE purchase is to be determined.
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If you have a 6s it should not really sway you unless you want a smaller phone, if your choices are 6s and SE, the SE might sway you because of the price. My 6s 64gb cost me $560 so the SE is not tempting.
 
techwhiz said:
You are kidding right? Customer returns?
Car manufacturers, appliance manufacturers and a host of other industries reuse designs.
It's common. Why invent something new when off the shelf will work just fine? Also it's off your own shelf so you get lower prices through economies of scale.
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I agree 100%. Most of the mouth-breathers complaining here about Apple using parts from the 5S have no idea that the latest model car (pick any car model) is probably using many of the same parts from previous models... like seat belts, latches, gas/brake pedals, locks, etc. etc. etc.

They're probably keeping themselves awake at night thinking: "I can't believe my car has the same radiator hose as last year's model - it's a crime against humanity! I must complain on some car forum!!!
 
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Phoenixx said:
So now we know the real reason Apple invented a machine that could disassemble an iPhone so the parts could be recycled. Now they can build new phones out of old parts, and when a new model comes out, they don't have to sell off old stock at reduced prices, but can simply disassemble them, and use the parts in full priced phones.

So much for Apple caring about the environment, but what better way is there to hide their greed than under the banner of ecological concern? Given their recent antics, it shouldn't be surprising.
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They cannot do that. Stop spreading FUD.
Only in a refurbished phone could they do that.
A new phone must comprise new components and assemblies.
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RDeckard said:
I agree 100%. Most of the mouth-breathers complaining here about Apple using parts from the 5S have no idea that the latest model car (pick any car model) is probably using many of the same parts from previous models... like seat belts, latches, gas/brake pedals, locks, etc. etc. etc.

They're probably keeping themselves awake at night thinking: "I can't believe my car has the same radiator hose as last year's model - it's a crime against humanity! I must complain on some car forum!!!
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They just don't understand how manufacturing works.
They will complain that the screw is the same across all iPhones.
 
Phoenixx said:
So now we know the real reason Apple invented a machine that could disassemble an iPhone so the parts could be recycled. Now they can build new phones out of old parts, and when a new model comes out, they don't have to sell off old stock at reduced prices, but can simply disassemble them, and use the parts in full priced phones.

So much for Apple caring about the environment, but what better way is there to hide their greed than under the banner of ecological concern? Given their recent antics, it shouldn't be surprising.
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We??? No, you. What a silly thing to say. You and a few other people here know nothing about high volume assembly and the number of SE phones that will be manufactured. And, that Apple phones cannot be assembled with used parts.


"but what better way is there to hide their greed"

Oh noes... The Greedy Apple strikes again! But please, when talking about their greed, squint your eyes and sneer a little while shaking your head. So people will know you are to be reckoned with.
 
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Nevaborn said:
It's never fails to stagger me how people can be such hypocrites. How many in this thread alone have said the 5S is the best iPhone ever made.

Now you find out that the new phone has a lot of the same internals suddenly it's junk.

The SE takes everything that was great with the 5S and gives you more. Better camera, better battery, better processor etc. People clambered for a 4" iPhone and now you have one with the same processing power as the flagships you complain.

Reusing parts is not only common sense but it makes financial sense and is good for the environment when we do live with limited resources.

Instead of deriding Apple lets applaud their sensibility
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'Reusing' implies they are scavenging parts from traded in old, used iPhones. 'Off the shelf' components would be a more accurate term. Yes, it helps Apple financially to not spend time/resources redesigning parts, new tooling etc.

How is that helping the environment as you state? The parts still need to be manufactured, the materials mined, the raw components transported, etc.
 
You know... it's not that there are dumb people on this forum. It's not that.

Reading all these genuinely sincere but specious conclusions based on the false economy of part recycling, I realize the majority of posters here are just profoundly disconnected from the manufacturing process/economics. The notion that apple built machines to remove old parts to place in new phones, or that there is some mega-wharehouse that holds millions of "spare parts lying around" seems even remotely plausible, isn't stupid, it's just uninformed. Not dumb people, just very young people, perhaps, who probably aren't spending their own money on new gadgets and or derive their sense of self-worth/self-esteem from having "updated curves" on an aluminum box.

How anyone cannot see that the SE is a ****ing awesome deal for those of us who like clean lines in our pants, as well as our electronics, is beyond me.
 
Indian Devil said:
I would never try to repair any Apple product myself, pay far too much for it to risk that. And with the great service Apple provide, don't see the reason for that too.
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Most user-repaired iPhone's are on its second or third owner. From that, what is paid for the phone is less than MSRP and not as much of a fiscal risk.
 
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