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Limited selection of cards? PowerMac and Mac Pro users are well used to this I can assure you!
I know you're just trolling, but the SSD in the MBA is also "proprietary", and still a couple companies have come out with replacement SSDs that use that connector. So it's extremely likely that you're going to see a a bunch of third-party upgrades for the Mac Pro. People who buy these machines are not looking to save a few bucks using the cheapest component possible. They'll gladly pay for a quality upgrade of they need one.
Good Guy Apple! Not what I expected (in terms of ease of repair) at all from such a compact, yet powerful system.
8/10 is shockingly high in 2013! I was not expecting this degree of access and I am very impressed. Also, a twelve core processor with dual workstation GPU's and a SINGLE fan all at 450 watts?
If you know anything about computers that would have to impress you.
I think Phil Schiller was right in his cockiness!
Funny enough I think they should have mentioned all these new facts back at the announcement. It would have quelled much of the criticism.
If you know anything about computers that would have to impress you.
I think Phil Schiller was right in his cockiness!
Funny enough I think they should have mentioned all these new facts back at the announcement. It would have quelled much of the criticism.
Agreed. People throw around the word 'innovation' as if Apple need a product like an iPhone or an iPad to shake up the market. The new Mac Pro is simply stunning. Gorgeous design, upgradeable, fast as ****, and some of the best computer engineering I'd argue we've seen in the last decade.
Apple are right to be proud. This is something incredibly special.
Why Logic Boards too?
Do you plan to build your personal HackinT
ube?^^Personally i see this to be a smart move,the Gpu ribbon connector opens the chance to have Apple Form Factor Gpu sold directly at least from Apple someday,so you can enter with a D300 and then step up to D700 or what will be available in the future.
Only the PSU worries me,because I-fixIt found to be 450 W .
Does this step up with configuration? or is the same through all the line? but i'm quite confident Apple knows what to do and we will discover Apple did it greatly.
By the way its an impressive machine and someday,maybe the REV B,could be my very next Mac.
Last,this is very repairable machine.
What if next mini adopts the same strategy with Apple discontinuing the Imacs while replacing with new Cinema Displays ?
I mean the Apple HD-TV from 32 to 55 inches?
Have a very good end of the year and and even better new one.
Bye^^
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The GPUs and CPU will clock themselves down, respectively, if they can't get enough cooling and/or power. I'd like to believe that 450W is enough of a PS to handle a Xeon cranking along with all of its cores number-chomping, and both of the D700s kicked up into turbo mode at the same time. As I wrote in another thread, I can almost see a boutique business in replacing that PS with something a bit stouter but that fits and connects into the same spot. It wouldn't be inexpensive, and it would be a PITA to replace, but it would allow the more adventurous Mac Pro owners to bump the Xeon up to the 150W TDP versions.
Uhh, the parts that you would be upgrading do not have proprietary connectors. Also, those connectors don't mean you have to buy the upgrades from Apple directly, and never have. Then again, why would I expect you to understand this when you're obviously incapable of reading.
This machine is simply amazing. You can complain about proprietary upgrades, but the engineering behind this and ability to keep it so repairable yet compact and efficient is awe inspiring. It's certainly not a machine for everyone, but it's the Mac Pro that the pros deserve.
It's nice to see all Nippon Chemi-Con caps in the power supply.
Subtle details, but capacitors are the most likely component to fail in a PSU so I wouldn't expect Apple to skimp on them.
Subtle details, but capacitors are the most likely component to fail in a PSU so I wouldn't expect Apple to skimp on them.
I don't think you do. You'd be upgrading with stock CPUs, GPUs, etc. Not sure about the SSD. Assuming that there's an aftermarket supplier for bigger storage options as that market matures.
If you can "buy in" at a lower price and upgrade easily (8/10) as funds come available, looks like a pretty nimble path to me.
Unfortunately, it would probably void the warranty, which most buyers won't be too keen on doing. At least yet.
Awww.. did Tim touch you in a bad place? your wallet?
Really, enough of this whining... if you want a build-your-own, build a hackintosh and be done with it, but the ranting is getting really really old.
What the upgradeability means here is that you may be able to get Apple supplied upgrades in the future, or, and perhaps more importantly, Apple is making these systems MUCH easier to service should the need arise.
Why Logic Boards too?
Do you plan to build your personal HackinT
Personally i see (and i hope) this to be a smart move,
the Gpu ribbon connector opens the chance to
have Apple Form Factor Gpu sold directly at least from Apple someday,
so you can enter with a D300 and then step up to D700
or what will be available in the future,only the PSU worries me,
because I-fixIt found to be 450 W .
Does this step up with configuration? or is the same through all
the line?
By the way its an impressive machine and someday,maybe the REV B,could
be my very next Mac.
Last,this is very repairable machine..what if next mini would adopt the same
strategy with Apple discontinuing the Imacs while replacing with new Cinema Displays ,i mean the Apple HD-TV from 32 to 55 inches?
Have a very good end of the year and and even better new one.
Bye^^
Why is the formatting on your post so weird? Very hard to read.
Well if you have ever had an Apple, you have had to deal with the GPU that they support. You can't just put in a PC card anyway.
Only recently ( past 3 years ) you have been able to buy a Custom ROM Hacked PC Card and stick them in. but it's still Hacky. My 285 GTX no longer works with Cuda for example.
It's very possible that in the future they will sell the Future GPU card in the Next version of this Mac Pro. But it will probably be an instore upgrade.
Given that these Cards are WAY cheaper than the Equiv. PC Cards -
D700 $1000 Upgrade against $3500x2 for a w9000 I don't know what you are moaning about.
Say the next gen GPU cards cost even 3K fitted at apple, still a big saving. But that is all for the future.
As for the SSD - OWC and others make compatible cards.
Used the Mac Pro at a apple store yesterday
They had the Quad core base model out...
Opened FCPX, opened one of there test projects, (turned off background render)
-threw on 10-12 effects on different clips, retime a few clips to slow/fast with optical flow (1 clips retimes to 30%)
-added a bunch of text/transition
Just played the clips without render.......wow......not 1 lag....anywhere.
The clip was about 3 mins along. Started to render it all...
...35 secs.done.
mind.blown.
They had the Quad core base model out...
Opened FCPX, opened one of there test projects, (turned off background render)
-threw on 10-12 effects on different clips, retime a few clips to slow/fast with optical flow (1 clips retimes to 30%)
-added a bunch of text/transition
Just played the clips without render.......wow......not 1 lag....anywhere.
The clip was about 3 mins along. Started to render it all...
...35 secs.done.
mind.blown.
Given the 4K video tests and 3D stuff I have seen I am guessing not. It's a beast - well a spec'd up version is...But even the 4 core is fine!
I'd be thrilled with it if they offered an alternative non Xenon motherboard and high-end gaming card for around $2k. With two slots, they could even do a SLI-like setup. They could make the ultimate consumer machine at a competitive price (and a consumer monster wouldn't really need internal upgradeable cards other than the graphics one which is removable).
As it is, I'm sure it will be great for some video professionals and some audio ones as well, but the question is whether or not they'll keep it up-to-date and offer GPU upgrades as time goes on, etc. for them.