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Teardown Reveals New MacBook Pro Without Touch Bar Has Removable SSD
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It says the same for the model without the Touch Bar though.
The RAM, the battery and some other vital components are not removable.
Not much to celebrate here.
Not much to celebrate here.
The Air doesn't have a glued battery, I don't think it is a safety thing.
Damn, I thought the battery might be a bit more removable. Sucks that they make a consumable part non user replaceable. Really a deal breaker for me. I've had my Non retina pro for a year and 4 months nad I have 824 cycles on it already - I use my laptop a lot so being able to replace it without spending $500 to replace it is important.
Love this huge big photo of the table:
Although I would have preferred to read the label on the SSD..
Although I would have preferred to read the label on the SSD..
This is fantastic news, I hope the same is true for the other models.
The automatic turn on is an awful 'feature'.
The automatic turn on is an awful 'feature'.
Interesting how the internal layout is completely different from the Touch Bar model.
For reference:
Like I suspected, the non-Touch Bar model has a smaller cooling system, due to the fact it uses a 15W chip (compared to 28W for the Touch Bar version).
That's what allowed for a bigger battery (54.5 Wh vs 49.2 Wh). Combine the 11% larger battery to the 13W TDP reduction, on top of the fact there's no Touch Bar / T1 chip to power, and you can expect the non-Touch Bar MBP to have maybe 20-30% better battery life than the Touch Bar variant.
Yeah, I know, Apple claims they both have 10 hours of battery life. It seems like it's BS though, they simply want to upsell the Touch Bar version more easily.
For reference:
Like I suspected, the non-Touch Bar model has a smaller cooling system, due to the fact it uses a 15W chip (compared to 28W for the Touch Bar version).
That's what allowed for a bigger battery (54.5 Wh vs 49.2 Wh). Combine the 11% larger battery to the 13W TDP reduction, on top of the fact there's no Touch Bar / T1 chip to power, and you can expect the non-Touch Bar MBP to have maybe 20-30% better battery life than the Touch Bar variant.
Yeah, I know, Apple claims they both have 10 hours of battery life. It seems like it's BS though, they simply want to upsell the Touch Bar version more easily.
Is it confirmed that RAM is not removeable or upgradeable? I'd love to move to 32 GB on my new 2016 15" MBP.
Yeah, the 13" non-Touch Bar model is an ENTIRELY different notebook internally. It is basically a MacBook Air, I'm surprised it wasn't labelled under the MacBook name.Interesting. Looks like 13" entry is significantly different from the one with touchbar... According to Apple website, that one has two fans...
- It uses a 15W processor rather than 28W (why only one fan is needed)
- It uses slower RAM.
- It has a slightly larger battery.
It probably uses a slower SSD as well, but hopefully the ones in the other models are also replaceable.
Seriously, someone ask me why everyone is impressed by this? The SSD has always been removable in models that use one.
Because the last new laptop (rMB) released did NOT. So the assumption most people had was they'd solder the SSD on. I always assumed it wouldn't be soldered on as support logistics would be a nightmare. That would mandate that anyone buying the machine have a TimeMachine backup in case of ANY potential failure. Memory dimm fails, all your data is gone. That's a pretty ****** proposition.
Actually we are shocked that it's still removaable.Seriously, someone ask me why everyone is impressed by this? The SSD has always been removable in models that use one.
They say that for all models, and have said it for years. So we'll have to wait and see from tear downs whether it is upgradeable or not.
the rMB isn't a very viable option to compare with a pro device that should have removable features, of course RAM not being one of them for quite some time.
If it turns on when you open it up I'm willing to bet that trips a security chip somewhere saying its been opened.
So basically it's easier to build a Hackintosh that replacing the SSD in this machine
No replaceable RAM? No purchase for me. Since 2003, I have purchased the cheapest option of MacBooks every time and then upgraded the RAM and HD to max whenever possible. My current MBP Early 2011 is maxed at 16GB and 1TB semi-SSD drive. Battery life is not perfect, but it still runs with the best of them at over 5 years old (well, except for the Combo drive, which inexplicably stopped working last year). I'm not sure I can ever justify buying a MBP if I can't upgrade the RAM. The fact that the standard MacBook has a built-in SSD already vetoes that in my books, with or without the RAM. Apple, are you trying to lose a customer who has used Macs continuously since the Mac Classic?!
noticed that as wellInteresting. Looks like 13" entry is significantly different from the one with touchbar... According to Apple website, that one has two fans...
- Heh. It's when you open the screen, not when you take the bottom off to access internals.