I think touch is another polarizing thing. I like it on my new laptop. Granted I don't use it as much as I thought I might. But I'll use it to do drawings with a stylus once I get the laptop setup (photos etc transferred over to Lightroom from aperture and other stuff)
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Which of course is only your personal misperception as Apple is pretty much the same company it always was. Be it no expansion slots on the first Macintosh or only USB ports on the first iMac. Apples attitude towards legacy ports and upgradability hasn't changed at all. These few years with HDMI ports on the MacBook Pro were the absolute exception from the rule of dongles. A design philosophy which made Apple the most successful computer maker ever. All the people, who claim they would want to trade a few millimeters thickness for a legacy port, do not put their money where their mouth is. If your products are crazy expensive and people keep buying them in droves, you must be doing something right. One Scotsmans anecdotal switch to Windows is of no significance to the overall market.
It is polarising you're right, but then i'm glad that my choice is macOS with no touch interface design what so ever - where as those that want an hybrid OS can choose Windows.
Rather that macOS going through a Windows 8 like overhaul to attempt to force touch elements into a non-touch OS, they should just improve iOS a bit more. But really iOS isn't made for multi-tasking and working through windows the idea is single focus applications with large touch elements, it can do a lot of cool stuff that is difficult (for some) on macOS and its lack of a file system is a boon for things like image editing when you can just move it from app to app with one button press and not worry about saving it anywhere or where it is and reduce the amount of clicks. But yeah, that's a very different discussion!
Would be nice if you could stop attacking people who do not agree with you.
You appear to contradict yourself stating that all people can do is it with their wallet which I did and then you say one person can't make a difference.
Judging by the what I think is an unusual amount of pro/anti Apple on these forums at the moment there are a lot of people who feel the same way as me.
Sure Apple is making a ton of money but it hasn't alway been like that and that can easily change if a company ignores its customers.
Now if the customer base is changing to those that are accepting of disposable tech then I might just no longer be Apples target audience and Apple can still continue to make money on that different trajectory.
something I personally think is that profit does not equate with user experience. Apple is a love hate company which is partly why it does not have a larger user base (that and it's prices)
So that they can keep living in their bubble and pretend it's all just opinion and no facts?
Annecdotal evidence of one person doing something, isn't sufficient evidence for the behaviour of computer users in general.
It's an unusual amount, because the event of a complete new MacBook Pro form factor is unusual in itself. This is only the fourth major redesign. There have always been complaints about too thin already and mourning about lost ports and dongles for new ports.
Wrong! Steve Jobs liked one particular quote from Henry Ford. Now, Ford didn't invent the car, but he was right about not listening to customers.
Again, nothing is changing. Right from the very first Macintosh Steve Jobs opposed the very idea of expansion slots. He wanted to sell a sealed appliance for users to work with, not a kit for nerds to tinker with. Back in the days technology progressed so fast, that non-upgradebility became a real problem and Apple lost the performance race against PC-OEMs. So for a while they became a little more open to user upgradeable parts, but that all ended with the iPhone. Which once more proved that a highly integrated system allows for a much better form factor. Today nobody would buy a laptop with empty space inside for an optional AirPort card. There is not even a card anymore, just a chip soldered to the board. Inevitably in the end everything will be just another chip on the board, until one combined chip replaces two separate chips and the integration continues.
Apple is a luxury company, their user base is as big as that of a German car maker. Have you heard about BMW selling 'Fahrvergnügen' in the US? That's an experience, with great experience comes great profit. Nobody pays more for a product which is awful to use. New ports with adapters are a way to provide better experience in the future all while staying compatible with the past. Want the future to come faster? Upgrade your damn peripherals already! How long this transition will take is entirely up to you and what you want to pay.
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Show me some facts to back up what is your opinion. Your responses are typical of a trolling Apple Fanboy.
just like your answers
I don't know where you get new form factor from. The new MBP is just a slimmer unibody.
So you now acknowledge that people have complaints about their products being too thin. Good on you for having the guts to admit when you are wrong about something.
Wrong! Steve Jobs liked one particular quote from Henry Ford. Now, Ford didn't invent the car, but he was right about not listening to customers.
And your point is? I could quote other equally useless quotes like "you can have any colour you like as long as its black" That doesn't mean that people don't want other colours.Or "Who would ever need more that 640K ram".
Or some other things that Apple have said.
Steve said: "Who wants a stylus?" then brings out the pencil. Which I wanted.
Steve said: "You can’t get your hand around it… No one’s going to buy that." (i.e. mocking who wants a bigger phone) then brought out a bigger phone which I wanted.
Apple has always had upgradeable systems for as long as I have known them.
No it doesn't people want removeable batteries for a variety of reasons (better for the environment, Apples batteries go to landfill is just one. Apples EPEAT certification is a Joke) Apple makes a compromise on batteries, that doesn't equate to what people want. People buying Apple have no choice if they want IOS and OSX.
Everyone buying an Apple laptop buys one with empty space inside it, don't take my word for it, take a look at the free space.
There is in all my Apple Computers (4 of them)
That is fine for a phone, but not for a Pro Computer. The new MBP is like a big iPhone with a keyboard.
No I'm in Australia and that news didn't filter down to me.
With great price gouging comes great profit too, whats your point?
Have you ever driven a Lamborghini around town?
Sorry but I live in the here and now
Well thats a contradiction right there, USB-C is not compatible with all my devices.
No, I want to live life at 1x
GOD your so up yourself. So you want me to throw all my usb connected devices in the bin, thats so environmentally friendly and will cost me money. Why would I want to waste money?
It will happen on my own terms, I bought a $3000 laptop last week - DELL XPS 15 that has 16GB ram and space for another 16GB if and when the need arises. I also get a 500GB SSD which fits my needs and a screen that is better than Apples offering.
I also get a USB-C 3.1 port and two USB-A ports, HDMI, SD so in the present I'm all sorted and in the future, guess what, I'm also sorted.
I'll leave you a parting thought, great companies come and go. Consumers will be around a lot longer.
Escaping PCs – the data is not new or surprising. The PC market has always been dry profit-wise.
Can't fix it, can't sell it: HP gives PC business to investors
Because it's an established fact that this is the fourth generation of MacBook Pros. Check Wikipedia!
I'm not wrong, everybody else is. People have been complaining about 'too thin' for as long as I've been reading MacRumors. It hasn't stopped them from buying more notebooks at higher prices. People may say, they don't want their mobile devices to become thinner and lighter, but they do. The thicker notebook is a faster horse. It's going in the wrong direction with no idea of innovation. We would still have serial ports on our computers, if we had listened to consumers. The serial ports would only have more pins.
No, they don't. Two colours, a darker and a lighter, are a reasonable variety for a pro machine. There are downsides to offering even one more colour option. The computers who offer more colours are not better, they do not look better, they aren't worth more, they don't sell more. It's lipstick on a pig.
If you want macOS, there are three different desktop models without a battery. People don't want removable batteries, they want a battery that doesn't needs to be replaced during the lifetime of the notebook.
There is no free space in a MacBook 2015, not even one port too much.
No, it doesn't. You still need to find millions of customers, who think the product is worth its money and buy it. In that case it's no longer gouging. Real gouging creates great losses, not profits.
Microsoft's $900 million Surface RT write-down: How did this happen?
Just buy new cables for your old peripherals. Or sell your old peripherals and take the money to buy new peripherals. Or simply embrace the dongle experience, it's still better than the USB-A port experience.
There your money is flushed down the toilet. It already lost half its value for being a DELL.
Nothing in the PC world ever happens on your terms, there are Apple terms and there are Microsoft terms. As a customer you have the power to choose between Coke and Pepsi, but neither tastes how you like it, you just happen to like the taste of one better than the other.
The screen only has more pixels, which doesn't make it a better screen. Also it doesn't make sense to compare individual components, only the complete system with all its hardware, software and services.
With two USB-A ports on your machine, you are firmly stuck in 1996 plug shape technology. Sorry, you don't get to live in the future with your steampunk notebook.
Apple the great company is 40 years old, a lot of its customers are already as dead as Steve Jobs.
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All your opinion really, very few facts to back anything up.Escaping PCs – the data is not new or surprising. The PC market has always been dry profit-wise.
Can't fix it, can't sell it: HP gives PC business to investors
Because it's an established fact that this is the fourth generation of MacBook Pros. Check Wikipedia!
I'm not wrong, everybody else is. People have been complaining about 'too thin' for as long as I've been reading MacRumors. It hasn't stopped them from buying more notebooks at higher prices. People may say, they don't want their mobile devices to become thinner and lighter, but they do. The thicker notebook is a faster horse. It's going in the wrong direction with no idea of innovation. We would still have serial ports on our computers, if we had listened to consumers. The serial ports would only have more pins.
No, they don't. Two colours, a darker and a lighter, are a reasonable variety for a pro machine. There are downsides to offering even one more colour option. The computers who offer more colours are not better, they do not look better, they aren't worth more, they don't sell more. It's lipstick on a pig.
If you want macOS, there are three different desktop models without a battery. People don't want removable batteries, they want a battery that doesn't needs to be replaced during the lifetime of the notebook.
There is no free space in a MacBook 2015, not even one port too much.
No, it doesn't. You still need to find millions of customers, who think the product is worth its money and buy it. In that case it's no longer gouging. Real gouging creates great losses, not profits.
Microsoft's $900 million Surface RT write-down: How did this happen?
Just buy new cables for your old peripherals. Or sell your old peripherals and take the money to buy new peripherals. Or simply embrace the dongle experience, it's still better than the USB-A port experience.
There your money is flushed down the toilet. It already lost half its value for being a DELL.
Nothing in the PC world ever happens on your terms, there are Apple terms and there are Microsoft terms. As a customer you have the power to choose between Coke and Pepsi, but neither tastes how you like it, you just happen to like the taste of one better than the other.
The screen only has more pixels, which doesn't make it a better screen. Also it doesn't make sense to compare individual components, only the complete system with all its hardware, software and services.
With two USB-A ports on your machine, you are firmly stuck in 1996 plug shape technology. Sorry, you don't get to live in the future with your steampunk notebook.
Apple the great company is 40 years old, a lot of its customers are already as dead as Steve Jobs.
You write your posts that your point of view is the only one that is correct and for that you suck i'm afraid.
Other people have different needs and just because Apple makes a healthy profit does not mean that it is pissing off and losing a lot of customers, just that it is gaining new ones to replace the ones it is losing. But that is changing, go read the news...
Edit: look, I'm not going to respond to you anymore for the following reasons
- You denigrate people: "customers are dead", "I'm not wrong everyone else is", I could go on but you get the picture
- Your posts are unnecessarily long. Please don't take this the wrong way but take some courses on how to be concise. The posts take too long to respond to and I don't feels like spending anymore time answering your drivel. E.g. I want at least 1 USB-a port among my USB-c, you: you are living in the past, USB-a sucks. I have both and like both but there needs to be transition.
- Your point of view is the only one that matters, your needs are the only ones that matter
- You target individual people on here and actively seek out just their posts. You sir are the definition of a troll.
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