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PCMacUser said:
... and sharing drives across a network (which is impossible under OS X).

Erm... can you explain this? I'm not sure if you're joking, serious, or discussing something different than I am thinking of. You can certainly serve volumes or folders within volumes to users on the intranet, or outside of the intranet if the firewalls / NATs involved are appropriately configured. You can also serve to both Windows and OS X users (using Samba). I use the former feature every week to share files between my iBook and iMac across my airport router.

Or do you mean sharing physical hardware, so that say my iBook can burn DVDs using the DVD burner in my iMac?
 
PCMacUser said:
...and sharing drives across a network (which is impossible under OS X).

There is a program....I think its called SharePoints??? But it does EXACTLY that, and it is very easy to use. I think there is a Terminal command to do that, but this program obviously does it for you. Also as said above, there is also a program to easily hide your files. Hope that helps!
 
Really I loved the simple things when I first started using Panther and Tiger:
-The Dock
-F9 & F10
-Just pressing down the power button and the system shuts down (don't even think about doing that on a dell) :p
-The Dashboard
-Also on a mac the font and the applications look very polished (big leap from windows xp)

Long Live the Macintosh!
 
My first time was at the age of 15. I was a bit scared and a little apprehensive as I didn't know what to expect, or if I would even enjoy it. I told my boyfriend I was ready to learn.

We set up a time in the evening when he could come over to my house to teach me, as he had more experience with it. It was a wonderful night! I learned so much, and had a lot of fun. Very pleasurable experience!

I am no longer a Apple/OSX virgin. :)
 
spicyapple said:
My first time was at the age of 15. I was a bit scared and a little apprehensive as I didn't know what to expect, or if I would even enjoy it. I told my boyfriend I was ready to learn.

We set up a time in the evening when he could come over to my house to teach me, as he had more experience with it. It was a wonderful night! I learned so much, and had a lot of fun. Very pleasurable experience!

I am no longer a Apple/OSX virgin. :)

Oi, the innuendo. :D

I had used Macs before, but my first to own was a Mac mini in early '05. I knew I was at home when I minimized a window and saw the genie effect.
 
I remember thinking that I was participating in history when I saw the intro movie, and then I didn't want the little swirling droplet animation to go away, even though it was a loading screen.
 
My first experience was my old college roomates G4 iMac. Its been a while but I think what did it for me was the Dock and Exposé. I also being REALLY impressed with his screen savers and how his chat program looked so much better than mine :mad: stupid ugly AIM.

I think what finally pushed me over the edge was Tiger's Spotlight, Smart Folders, Fast User switching, and Dashboard. When my roommate made me watch my first Steve Jobs keynote speech (WWDC 2004 i think) I was instantly sucked in and knew that I was seriously missing out on something insanely great.
 
Sean7512 said:
There is a program....I think its called SharePoints??? But it does EXACTLY that, and it is very easy to use. I think there is a Terminal command to do that, but this program obviously does it for you. Also as said above, there is also a program to easily hide your files. Hope that helps!
Thanks for your help. :) But your post kinda illustrates my point. I was saying that there are things that are not easily done in OS X. Sure, you can install additional third party apps to do some things - but I want the OS itself to be big and brave enough to do it itself. Those two examples aren't complicated tasks in Windows, so I can't see why they should require specialist apps on the Mac environment.

But I still love my little iBook :)
 
spicyapple said:
My first time was at the age of 15. I was a bit scared and a little apprehensive as I didn't know what to expect, or if I would even enjoy it. I told my boyfriend I was ready to learn.

We set up a time in the evening when he could come over to my house to teach me, as he had more experience with it. It was a wonderful night! I learned so much, and had a lot of fun. Very pleasurable experience!

I am no longer a Apple/OSX virgin. :)
Did you get jealous when you found out he'd taught all your friends too? ;)
 
PCMacUser said:
I can't see why they should require specialist apps on the Mac environment.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. We have shared hard drives on our Mac server that didn't need setting up in Sharepoints... :confused:
 
Blue Velvet said:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. We have shared hard drives on our Mac server that didn't need setting up in Sharepoints... :confused:
I don't have a server. Just a little iBook. Which has a CDROM drive. That I want to share with my CD-less PC notebook.
 
PCMacUser said:
I don't have a server. Just a little iBook. Which has a CDROM drive. That I want to share with my CD-less PC notebook.

Every Mac OS X machine can be a server to another Mac OS X machine. The fact that you want to share with a Windows machine makes a difference but you'd find it equally difficult to turn a Windows machine into a server for a Mac OS X machine.
 
bousozoku said:
Every Mac OS X machine can be a server to another Mac OS X machine. The fact that you want to share with a Windows machine makes a difference but you'd find it equally difficult to turn a Windows machine into a server for a Mac OS X machine.

You're kidding right? It's simple to share out any folder on Windows, right click / share. The point the guy is making is that it isn't that simple on OS X.
 
PCMacUser said:
I don't have a server. Just a little iBook. Which has a CDROM drive. That I want to share with my CD-less PC notebook.
I don't know how it would show up from your PC, but I share CDs and Zip disks from any of my Macs to any of my other Macs... I only have a single Zip drive for six systems, I don't even turn the display on of the system that has it if I need to read a Zip disk. I put the Zip disk in and go back to the system I was working on, connect to that computer and the Zip disk is available.

risc said:
You're kidding right? It's simple to share out any folder on Windows, right click / share. The point the guy is making is that it isn't that simple on OS X.
And it was that easy in Mac OS 8/9 too. Sharing specific folders was done via the Info panel and you could set up additional users and groups with limited privileges... which started to cut into Apple's server business.

I set up more than a few Mac OS 8.6 systems as file servers using nothing more than the software that came with the system.

It wasn't an oversight that these things were left out of Mac OS X.



Benjamindaines said:
The first time you played with a Mac OS X machine what was the thing that blew you away / was your favorite?
That is a little hard... it depends on where you draw the line as to where Mac OS X started.

When Apple acquired NeXT, I started to take a much deeper look at NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP than I had when it was the OS of some other company. By the time the general public started seeing Mac OS X I had already been using various incarnations for years.

The first product that had the label Mac OS X that I used didn't look all that different from Mac OS 8.x.

But the one thing that I truly love about the whole line of operating systems is services. The system sharing services with applications, applications sharing services with other applications. I still feel that this is one of the most overlooked aspects of Mac OS X.

And I shouldn't be surprised. I completely overlooked them when I was a Mac user using NeXT computers. I didn't take the time to really look at them until after Apple bought NeXT.

dcv said:
I'm easy :eek: Anti-aliased fonts did it for me ;)
Funny that you say that... while there are many things about Rhapsody that I'm just more comfortable with compared to OPENSTEP (mainly the Mac layout), the thing that keeps me coming back to Rhapsody even when I have the same apps in OPENSTEP is Anti-aliased fonts. My work just looks better in Rhapsody than OPENSTEP... it was one of the most noticeable changes that Apple made.
 
It was a little "meh" for me. It was Tiger on a stock iMac G5 at CompUSA. Everything seemed... clunky. The bouncing icons where the thing that turned me off.

Of course, now I love it. I don't own one yet, but pretty soon; I'm gonna start saving. And I warmed up to the bouncing icons. :)
 
iMetroid said:
Everything seemed... clunky. The bouncing icons where the thing that turned me off.

This is OT, but we were recently discussing this, and I just recently realized that there is a sys prefs option to get rid of dock bouncing for app launches and system alerts. So for my systems pretty much the only thing that still bounces is Adium, and only because I want it to. The option is System Preferences -> Dock -> Animate opening applications (deselected = no bounce).
 
iMetroid said:
It was a little "meh" for me. It was Tiger on a stock iMac G5 at CompUSA. Everything seemed... clunky. The bouncing icons where the thing that turned me off.

Of course, now I love it. I don't own one yet, but pretty soon; I'm gonna start saving. And I warmed up to the bouncing icons. :)

I love the bouncing icons - they're a great visual hint that the application you just opened is in fact opening.

Sure beats sitting at a Windows box, double-clicking an application and then sitting there wondering if it's actually loading? Or did I not double-click right? Is that hourglass there because something else is happening? Shouldn't it be loaded by now? What's that funny sound? What? No I didn't click that!! Why can't I play the DVD? Whaddaya mean I have to register and pay for a DVD playing app? The damn thing came with the machine!! Yes I still want to watch the movie!! Now where's the fullscreen option? Is this it? No that's....what is that? Oop, now I've closed the program! That didn't look like a close button. AAARGH!!! I hate this bloody thing!!

Every day that passes is another day I love my iBook even more.
 
Chundles said:
I love the bouncing icons - they're a great visual hint that the application you just opened is in fact opening.

FWIW, when you turn off bouncing, you still get a pulsing triangle under the application as it's opening. Which is a nice, but more subtle hint. Because I totally agree with Chundles -- especially since a lot of times, Windows seems to sometimes randomly ignore your request to open an application, I hate not knowing whether the app is actually in the process of loading or not.
 
Benjamindaines said:
The first time you played with a Mac OS X machine what was the thing that blew you away / was your favorite?

For me it was the whole "pop" sound and bezel that came up with you changed the volume. Yeah, I know trivial but it just blew me away coming from OS 8.
I was about to tell you how utterly inappropriate this thread was...until I read it! hah
For me it was the dock and the lack of the stupid taskbar.
 
pink-pony115 said:
-Just pressing down the power button and the system shuts down (don't even think about doing that on a dell) :p
Any PC with XP will do the same

Sean :)
 
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