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But do I really need one? Currently have a Garmin vivoactive which I use for Golf and cycling when my Garmin edge is on charge. Plan to also keep it as a spare or mix it up and use a different watch each week if I do get a Apple Watch. Will the SE be fine for me as I can’t really justify the extra price just for a ecg and Always on display which would irritate when sleeping.
any thoughts?
 
But do I really need one? Currently have a Garmin vivoactive which I use for Golf and cycling when my Garmin edge is on charge. Plan to also keep it as a spare or mix it up and use a different watch each week if I do get a Apple Watch. Will the SE be fine for me as I can’t really justify the extra price just for a ecg and Always on display which would irritate when sleeping.
any thoughts?
The display turns off when you are in sleep focus, so that's not really an issue.

You can compare the 7 to the SE here. Other than the two features you mentioned, it also has a bigger screen, blood oxygen sensor, and faster charging.

As far as whether you need one, it depends on how you want to use it. Closing rings can be a beneficial addiction. :)
 
Depends what you want to use it for.

I enjoy my SE with cellular because I can just hop on my bike, go the shop or take the dog for a walk and listen to my music and still be able to receive calls and text messages. Feels great travelling light. Only watch and AirPods.
 
I have an SE and I love it. It's a great watch if you're looking to "try it out", which is what I bought mine for. If you're not in a hurry there is likely to be a refresh of the SE this year, I might wait for that rather than buying brand new today. But you might also find some good deals on the SE, so that may sway things.
 
Been having a look it’s between the Series 7 now and a Garmin Venu 2
Main use will be cycling tracker using Strava as that’s my main activity.
Reliable sleep tracking also.
 
But do I really need one? Currently have a Garmin vivoactive which I use for Golf and cycling when my Garmin edge is on charge. Plan to also keep it as a spare or mix it up and use a different watch each week if I do get a Apple Watch. Will the SE be fine for me as I can’t really justify the extra price just for a ecg and Always on display which would irritate when sleeping.
any thoughts?
If you are asking yourself if you need one, the answer is no. However, if you want one irregardless of need, then I'd suggest waiting a bit more. It is very likely this Fall we'll get a new version of the AW. Save cash from now to then and get a nice one you'll love. SE watches are nice, but I find it's always best to get flagship watch.
 
You can turn on theater mode to turn off the screen while you're sleeping.

If you are asking yourself if you need one, the answer is no. However, if you want one irregardless of need, then I'd suggest waiting a bit more.
I don't know, I didn't get one until the S3 because it felt like almost everything it could I could on my phone. Now I would never not have an Apple Watch.
 
You can turn on theater mode to turn off the screen while you're sleeping.


I don't know, I didn't get one until the S3 because it felt like almost everything it could I could on my phone. Now I would never not have an Apple Watch.
Again, it depends on what you want or need. Apparently you didn't need or wanted one, but went ahead and got one.
 
I am not a regular wearer of a watch but as a runner, I got tired of using an armband to hold my iPhone. I bought a S4 Nike Watch when it came out and am pleased with it. The Garmin watches look to be a good option but I’m invested in the Apple ecosystem.
 
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I am not a regular wearer of a watch but as a runner, I got tired of using an armband to hold my iPhone. I bought a S4 Nike Watch when it came out and am pleased with it. The Garmin watches look to be a good option but I’m invested in the Apple ecosystem.
I'm also using an S4, but the battery is showing its age at this point.
 
Do it.

I have an S4 and its great. Even to this day. Sure battery life is showing its age, but still lasts me a full day and usually charge it while I'm in the shower or on a drive. My wife's S6 is brand new and lasts her like 2 full days.

The ECG function is cool and not gimmicky, but admittedly don't use it often..maybe less than half a dozen times a year.

I'll definitely be upgrading to either the S7 by the end of this year or maybe even whatever Apple has to offer come... but for me the big appeal is a bigger screen. But the SE will do just fine, trust me on that, you'll love it.

As someone else above mentioned, I can't picture myself not having an Apple Watch.
 
Wearing an SE, as my needs are same (don't want/need AOD, ECG). Primarily want fitness/heart rate tracking, second screen to iPhone (notifications, audio control, Apple Pay and keep phone pocketed), unlock Mac.

AW3 was fine for that, but I destroyed mine while canyoning, and needed to replace. AW3 was at the time a pain to update software due to lack of storage, so with cost of screen replacement, made sense to upgrade.

AW7 screen is nice, just not wanting to pay the premium for it and functions not important for me.

AW8 might pique some interest (TBD on new features, shape), but will most likely hold out for 9 or 10.

Basically, never been a fan of watches, but SE covers "needs" for me.
 
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Fast charging of S7 is worth mentioning, only reason I went for S7 instead of S6 / SE. Charging over hour up to two the device every two days is a joke…
Good point looking forward to fast charging once I upgrade

Because of the regular charging I usually never get it up to one hundred percent considering my showers aren’t that long, same as my car rides
 
Because of the regular charging I usually never get it up to one hundred percent considering my showers aren’t that long, same as my car rides

Same, but has not been a big issue for me.

Usually get a workout done first thing in the morning, charge Watch afterwards while showering and shaving. Rarely dips below 40-50% before charge. Today was a gym visit later in the day, so put the Watch on the charger when I woke up while I was catching up on emails, news, etc while in bed to top it off. At 73% 3/4 of day through since last charge.

Days I go hiking are when it might get low, as I'm now looking at generally two days since a charge and doing several hours of Workouts tracking activity, but even then, rarely dip into the red. Put on charger while catching up in AM next day, workout, back on charger after to get decent level on the battery.
 
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But do I really need one? Currently have a Garmin vivoactive which I use for Golf and cycling when my Garmin edge is on charge. Plan to also keep it as a spare or mix it up and use a different watch each week if I do get a Apple Watch. Will the SE be fine for me as I can’t really justify the extra price just for a ecg and Always on display which would irritate when sleeping.
any thoughts?
I have a Garmin navigator because I have an older car that lacks CarPlay. I'd say go with the AppleWatch SE. My mom has one and loves it. Also with the series 7 you can turn off the always on display when sleeping.
 
Same, but has not been a big issue for me.

Usually get a workout done first thing in the morning, charge Watch afterwards while showering and shaving. Rarely dips below 40-50% before charge. Today was a gym visit later in the day, so put the Watch on the charger when I woke up while I was catching up on emails, news, etc while in bed to top it off. At 73% 3/4 of day through since last charge.

Days I go hiking are when it might get low, as I'm now looking at generally two days since a charge and doing several hours of Workouts tracking activity, but even then, rarely dip into the red. Put on charger while catching up in AM next day, workout, back on charger after to get decent level on the battery.
Glad we live similar Apple Watch lives.

As for the OP wondering if he should get one, my wife held out for 2 years and said she didn’t want one but she’s had her S6 for over a month now and she loves closing the rings and have to admit she’s been super healthy visiting the gym daily and tracking workouts. Her Watch came with a free three month trial of Apple Fitness Plus and she’s a fan of the cycling videos. I’m a fan of the meditation videos but we both agreed there isn’t a dying need to continue the service once the 3 month trial is up.

Above all, with family sharing am glad we both wake up and know that the goal isn’t to beat each other in regards to how many calories we’ve burned, but rather we encourage each other daily to close our rings.

I have a Garmin navigator because I have an older car that lacks CarPlay. I'd say go with the AppleWatch SE. My mom has one and loves it. Also with the series 7 you can turn off the always on display when sleeping.

My wife thought AOD was gimmicky and turned it off. I kept telling her if I had a newer AW than my S4, that I would keep it on all the time and now she loves the AOD. It’s a small feature but as someone that has the S4, it looks like something I’d love to have on all the time.

And to the OP, AOD turns off at night during sleeping and also there’s theater mode just in case.
I upgraded from the S4 to the S7 a month ago and am loving all the new features.
Yeah this is gonna be me in a few months. Or when a great deal comes my way.
 
Fast charging of S7 is worth mentioning, only reason I went for S7 instead of S6 / SE. Charging over hour up to two the device every two days is a joke…
The charging does get old and exhausting and a serious consideration for most folks who are health/fitness minded.
I have both a Garmin Instinct 2 and AW7 TI (Apple Watch series 7 in titanium). I usually charge the AW7 twice per day... once in the morning and once in the evening. Why? Because I exercise 1-2 times per day (seriously puts a drain on the battery), sleep tracking is important to me, and I have the always on display active... have a family, I'm a full-time student and I get notifications, etc. regularly. The Garmin, it is awesome being able to go out biking for an hour or two. Maybe get a workout or walk in at the end of the day and I'm not concerned about battery life in the least bit. I am very competitive for my age in terms of being able to run a 5 minutes mile, etc, but even as an athlete, I'm not trying to win races. Improvements are great (or declines) with training and being able to see that on a Garmin, but does little to benefit me in my day to day life.

After running the Garmin for a few months, I'm tempted to go back to the AW7. One of the things I appreciate most about the Garmin Instinct 2 is the sense of freedom with not having to worry about the battery going dead. When I do charge it, it charges quickly (around an hour or less). However, I do let to compete with my spouse with closing the Apple Rings and knowing their rings/fitness statues when doing competitions. I like having the notifications when she completes a workout, etc. On the Garmin side of things, I like being able to see health/fitness metrics from my web-browser. Also, competing with others (setting up challenges) on the device is not the same. Apple focuses on rings allowing you to compete with others at different fitness goals/abilities, Garmin allows you to compete with specific activities such as biking, running, walking, steps, etc.. I don't like that I'm tied into a phone for looking over the health/fitness metrics. On the up swing, I like the holistic fitness/health approach and that it ties nicely into my other devices because of the Apple ecosystem. Apple is also good about only releasing a few set devices and updates are solid... usually.

Something no one really talks about when considering a Garmin Fenix/Instinct or AW is the ability to stay connected to the device. The Garmin devices runs on bluetooth, which requires you to keep the phone nearby. My Garmin is constantly notifying me that I am and am not connected to my phone due to lack of range. The AW, you can leave your phone laying around and they AW stays connected as long as you are on the same WIFI network... huge perk IMO when you don't like keeping your phone on you all the time. Also, on T-mobile, having a cellular connection for $5/mth is convenient and handy. When I bike, I only wear my AW and still am connected to my cellular services. My family can still contact me. With the Garmin, I carry the extra weight of my phone and need to wear a backpack or mount of sorts so I have cellular. Leaving the phone behind is a nice perk, which I can't do with the Garmin Fenix/Instinct 2 Solar... yep, Fenix 7... didn't mention that earlier, but it is similar to the instinct 2 Solar for what I'm using it for.

In terms of aftermarket accessories, seems to be a lot more options with the AW7. I also like that I have insurance (Apple Care+). I don't get this option with a Garmin. While the Garmin is more rugged, I can always pay a reasonable deductible on the AW7 to replace it should it get broken (yet to happen).

Lots to consider, but where I'm at for the time being. These devices are different from what most have mentioned. Some have said an unfair comparison... not really because most of use don't want to wear two devices for the different abilities and so we consider making a choice between one or another with the varying compromises.
 
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The charging does get old and exhausting and a serious consideration for most folks who are health/fitness minded.
I have both a Garmin Instinct 2 and AW7 TI (Apple Watch series 7 in titanium). I usually charge the AW7 twice per day... once in the morning and once in the evening. Why? Because I exercise 1-2 times per day (seriously puts a drain on the battery), sleep tracking is important to me, and I have the always on display active... have a family, I'm a full-time student and I get notifications, etc. regularly. The Garmin, it is awesome being able to go out biking for an hour or two. Maybe get a workout or walk in at the end of the day and I'm not concerned about battery life in the least bit. I am very competitive for my age in terms of being able to run a 5 minutes mile, etc, but even as an athlete, I'm not trying to win races. Improvements are great (or declines) with training and being able to see that on a Garmin, but does little to benefit me in my day to day life.

After running the Garmin for a few months, I'm tempted to go back to the AW7. One of the things I appreciate most about the Garmin Instinct 2 is the sense of freedom with not having to worry about the battery going dead. When I do charge it, it charges quickly (around an hour or less). However, I do let to compete with my spouse with closing the Apple Rings and knowing their rings/fitness statues when doing competitions. I like having the notifications when she completes a workout, etc. On the Garmin side of things, I like being able to see health/fitness metrics from my web-browser. Also, competing with others (setting up challenges) on the device is not the same. Apple focuses on rings allowing you to compete with others at different fitness goals/abilities, Garmin allows you to compete with specific activities such as biking, running, walking, steps, etc.. I don't like that I'm tied into a phone for looking over the health/fitness metrics. On the up swing, I like the holistic fitness/health approach and that it ties nicely into my other devices because of the Apple ecosystem. Apple is also good about only releasing a few set devices and updates are solid... usually.

Something no one really talks about when considering a Garmin Fenix/Instinct or AW is the ability to stay connected to the device. The Garmin devices runs on bluetooth, which requires you to keep the phone nearby. My Garmin is constantly notifying me that I am and am not connected to my phone due to lack of range. The AW, you can leave your phone laying around and they AW stays connected as long as you are on the same WIFI network... huge perk IMO when you don't like keeping your phone on you all the time. Also, on T-mobile, having a cellular connection for $5/mth is convenient and handy. When I bike, I only wear my AW and still am connected to my cellular services. My family can still contact me. With the Garmin, I carry the extra weight of my phone and need to wear a backpack or mount of sorts so I have cellular. Leaving the phone behind is a nice perk, which I can't do with the Garmin Fenix/Instinct 2 Solar... yep, Fenix 7... didn't mention that earlier, but it is similar to the instinct 2 Solar for what I'm using it for.

In terms of aftermarket accessories, seems to be a lot more options with the AW7. I also like that I have insurance (Apple Care+). I don't get this option with a Garmin. While the Garmin is more rugged, I can always pay a reasonable deductible on the AW7 to replace it should it get broken (yet to happen).

Lots to consider, but where I'm at for the time being. These devices are different from what most have mentioned. Some have said an unfair comparison... not really because most of use don't want to wear two devices for the different abilities and so we consider making a choice between one or another with the varying compromises.
I forgot to mention the alarms and Siri. Siri is nice to have on hand since I don't have my phone on me constantly. Being able to wake up in the morning and have my alarm on my AW works great. The haptic feedback is next to none when the watch wakes me up and the alarm goes off. When I set the alarm on my iPhone, it syncs to the AW and it is great being able to hit snooze from the screen or tell my seri HomePod to mute all my devices, or snooze them... another subtle perk of the AW and Apple ecosystem.

Regarding the Apple Fitness perspective, it is nice that Apple does pull in SOME health metrics from the Garmin app when syncing with the Garmin. So, you can pull info in from the Garmin into the Apple and Garmin apps when monitoring health and activity metrics... that's a whole other post.
 
I bought a series 4 when it came out, tried it for a while and sent it back within 14 days. I wasn't sure whether to keep it or not. I said to myself that the best way of knowing if i'd miss it, would be to send it back and just see. In the end, I did miss it so went out and purchased another and have worn it ever since!

Love it! The Apple Watch does not have one main USP in my opinion, it's more of a collection of smaller tools and features, which when put together and when you force yourself to make use of them, becomes a very useful package.
 
No need. The screen automatically turns off when Sleep Focus is enabled, so it essentially works like Theater Mode.
The problem
I have with theater mode is that I’ll activate it when I’m at the movies, which I’m doing so tonight and for those two Hours the AW will think I’m asleep since I’m essentially not moving at all in my theater seat. Not a fan of that so whenever I’m watching a movie whether at home on the couch or a movie theater I now take off my watch.
 
Given some of the current discounts, I'd get a Series 7 over an SE. The larger screen is not a minor update, and fast charging makes sleep tracking feasible if you don't have an older backup watch.
 
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