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Tesla is a fake front company to keep back electric car production, and an insult to Nikola Tesla. Volkswagen and Mini electric car production and sales would have both been in full swing if it weren't for a nefarious cabal keeping it all reined in. You'll scoff, but electric cars have been around for more than a century. You'll say it's due to battery size that they haven't ever been mass produced, but this would not have been an issue if there would have been charging stations set up everywhere. Elon Musk is a con-front-man for oil interests.


Bet they got the idea right from the Cars 2 plot.
 
EDIT: another photo of the interior. Could it be any more boring?
You call it boring. I call it clean, open and refreshing. My immediate thoughts were positive, although I'd still want some sort of instrument panel or HUD right in front of me.
 
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You're probably not from Europe. There are quite a few cars with centered speed display and if the digital digits are large enough, it's absolutely fine and comfortable. You clearly see your speed at all times, there is no "glancing over" or anything like that. I personally own Renault Scenic and really like that centered digital speedometer (I actually think it's a shame that the new 2017 Scenic reverted back to the boring traditional layout).

PS - windshield HUD would still be great and I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least an option for Tesla Model 3.

The reason central dials are made for cheap cars like the Renault Scenic is to make things a lot cheaper when having to build the steering wheel on another side for UK and some Asian markets.

More expensive cars have a dedicated dash on the drivers side but that's part of what makes them premium.

After seeing the Model 3's dash, I'm not entirely convinced but since I'm going to keep the interest on my €1,000 and wait until I get some motoring and real-world reviews, I have plenty of time to try it out and see how that develops.
 
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Farewell, General Motors. (Good luck with that petrol, oil, coolant etc etc.)

"Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated" General Motors

Hello, Tesla!

While electric vehicles will comprise a larger percentage of vehicles over time, it will be a while before the internal combustion engine disappears, if only because no alternative offers the ease of refueling / recharging and thus the range. Electric will get there but that will take time; and it's questionable weather Tesla will be one of the survivors, given they aren't making money. Tesla's gambling on becoming a mainstream player rather than a niche manufacturer, that is a very risky bet. Right now, they are one of the few EV games in town; but it is clear that will change over the next few years, which will result in them having stiff competition from established marques.
 
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Would love to see a coupe or better yet a sports/roadster version. Hope Tesla can iterate off the platform quickly (18/19 range) and offer a SUV 3X, coupe and sports/roadster.
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I'm strongly considering one as a commuter car. I'm very interested. Friend of mine has a Model S and just took delivery of their Model X. I really like these cars.
 
I honestly don't understand all the hype with electric cars. They aren't a viable solution right now; batteries have such heavy materials that we might be better off with petrol. Not that I'm in favour of the current model (I hate it) but this isn't a solution either.
 
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I get it that it's designed to eek out every last possible resource from the drivetrain with minimal drag, to me that's telling that the electric car isn't there yet.
What it tells me is that many traditional cars are very wasteful. Why wouldn't ANY automobile be designed this way?

This coming from a guy who drives a mid-80s Land Rover Defender.
 
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I owned a Mini Cooper, it's not rubbish. Every day I drove the car I wished the gauges were in front of me. The other problem with the screen I see, is that it is both too close and too far. For things you look at such as the speed, or navigation you want them farther out so your eyes don't come that far off the road, but for controls you touch, you want them close. Touch screens in cars are horrid too as you drive down a bumpy road.

Don't compare Mini with it's super awkward analog speedometer with a clean, easy to read digital one (like on many french cars).
I also expect advanced ones like in Tesla 3 will know if you're going over the speed limit and will, for example, turn red/bigger to alert you. I predict zero real world problems with this.
 
Touch screens in cars are horrid too as you drive down a bumpy road.

Touch screens also lack tactile feedback to let you know you are using the right one without actually looking at it. I can adjust radio volume, temperature, etc. in my car without taking my eyes of the road. A touch screen would require me looking and verifying I am pressing on the right place on the screen.
 
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Not sold on the complete removal of digital instrument panels directly in front of the driver. Seems like it would be annoying glancing over at the giant bright screen for basic speed indication. An optional headsup windshield display would be a much nicer solution imo, even if offered as an optional redundancy in functionality.

Musk did say this was only "part one" of the reveal, it is possible they are still working on a projected hud for the car.
 
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I disagree. YMMV, but most drives reference the front fender to stay in the lane, not glancing over the side to verify their position in the lane. Instruments in front of the driver are way to read with a quick glance, provided they aren't displayed as digits, and much better from a human factors standpoint. If the real display is as cluttered as the one shown, you're setting the driver up for an accident.

Do you realise that in late 2017 with all the rapid advances in auto-pilot/auto-brake systems it will be almost impossible for a car to have such simple accidents? Musk said every Model 3, even the cheapest base ones will have full auto pilot systems.
 
"Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated" General Motors



While electric vehicles will comprise a larger percentage of vehicles over time, it will be a while before the internal combustion engine disappears, if only because no alternative offers the ease of refueling / recharging and thus the range. Electric will get there but that will take time; and it's questionable weather Tesla will be one of the survivors, given they aren't making money. Tesla's gambling on becoming a mainstream player rather than a niche manufacturer, that is a very risky bet. Right now, they are one of the few EV games in town; but it is clear that will change over the next few years, which will result in them having stiff competition from established marques.
GM has lost me as a customer entirely. GM was too slow and too late to cut the oil pump. I don't support companies that support the status quo.
Not true. Did you hear the Tesla Model 3 was unveiled last night? Did you see its beautiful styling? The awesome price? Recharging is a cinch and the mile/kilometre range of these electric vehicles are great. The impediment to owning an electric vehicle is essentially gone once the Model 3 hits the road. Apple may enter the game before the decade is out as well, so interesting times ahead.
 
a) a car should last much longer than 8 years, or it will start loosing value rather drasticly after just a few years

Battery costs are just going to continue to decrease, the price of a battery swap after 8 years will be minimal compared to what it is now - and that is only in the case that you actually need one in the first place.
 
I think it's because Tesla is investing new manufacturing plants to ramp up production which isn't cheap, not because their cars don't make money.

That's not the case. Currently they're building them at a loss even if they weren't investing elsewhere like the Gigafactory. It's a race to see if they can turn their vehicles profitable before running out of the money they have.
 
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I hate the inside. Always have with Teslas but this one is really bad. I hope to god if Apple does release a car the inside looks nothing like this.

I wonder if, say, Toyota had released this would people be drooling all over it or would they say it's fugly? How much of this is just because it's Tesla?

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EDIT: another photo of the interior. Could it be any more boring?

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Hmm.. yeah.. the screen looks out of place, both for function and form (the wheel and screen going other direction, one is soft and round, other is hard and square). It really is cheap looking.
Heck.. the least it can do is using white bezel screen. Who's designing this?
 
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Considering the date of this "release", where is the included matching smartphone iPhone killer?
 
Battery costs are just going to continue to decrease, the price of a battery swap after 8 years will be minimal compared to what it is now - and that is only in the case that you actually need one in the first place.

Not really. We've seen a drop in battery prices but not a substantial one. The materials used to make batteries are seeing an influx in pricing which means we'll likely see battery prices stay the same or even increase with time. Add to that the lack of breakthroughs in battery technology in the past 10 years and we're not making much progress. Unless something very substantial changes, we're unlikely to see huge change on the horizon.
 
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After Disneyrumors comes Teslarumors. Well, fair enough there's not much Mac left to write about currently.
 
I hate the inside. Always have with Teslas but this one is really bad. I hope to god if Apple does release a car the inside looks nothing like this.

I wonder if, say, Toyota had released this would people be drooling all over it or would they say it's fugly? How much of this is just because it's Tesla?

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EDIT: another photo of the interior. Could it be any more boring?

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No, the interior of this Tesla is much better than the previous Model S. The entirely clean simple lines are really well done. Just the essentials, with none of the unnecessary bling. Out of interest, what car interiors do you prefer?
 
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