nwcs
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Obsolete when 5G won’t reach but a tiny number of people overall and at what additional cost for speed + data limits?
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Testing 5G: What 5G Speeds Will Be Like When the 2020 iPhones Launch
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You could easily cook a hot dog with your 2.4Ghz band Wifi router if you could get the power high enough.
Precisely. So why put ourselves in a position of being "lab rats"? We need long term independent testing before we roll out 5G millimeter wavelength technology. Did you watch the video? 4G and 5G are apples and oranges. The density and power of a 5G grid is unprecedented.
I don't really see the point of higher speeds when iOS and crappy bogged-down websites make the experience so slow anyways.
Connection speed hasn't been the culprit in ages. Input-blocking and terrible UI, however, are endless thorns.
Connection speed hasn't been the culprit in ages. Input-blocking and terrible UI, however, are endless thorns.
bn-7bc
macrumors 6502a
Well some aplications will deffenetly benefit more from reduced round trip time than the increased speed
...or just go sterile.
In fact male fertility has reached historically low numbers in recent years but that could be due to a number of factors (environmental toxins, psychological, diet, etc..) unrelated to increased use of Wifi and cell phones.
No he didn’t, however, don’t be too dismissive of health concerns.
alexjonesisanidiot
CarlJ
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Did not! Did not! Anyway, I'm quite happy with unlimited LTE, won't need 5G any time soon.
bn-7bc
macrumors 6502a
v0lume4
macrumors 68030
The folks defending 5G and claiming are no detrimental health effects simply do not know whether that is true or not. The fact of the matter is, we DON'T know what happens to the human body after long term exposure to 5G signals. Just as easily as you can say, "There aren't any long term studies proving that it's bad for you," I can rebuke with, "There aren't any long term studies proving that it's safe for you."
We need to be testing this stuff extensively before we broadcast it out over 62.7% of the population (that's just US residents living in cities; number expected to grow). But we don't. It isn't difficult to see what's wrong with that picture. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff. It's just common sense.
We need to be testing this stuff extensively before we broadcast it out over 62.7% of the population (that's just US residents living in cities; number expected to grow). But we don't. It isn't difficult to see what's wrong with that picture. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff. It's just common sense.
CarlJ
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Paying attention to Alex Jones causes cancer.
Out of curiosity, did the testing occur outside or inside? With such a tiny wavelength, I'm curious if 5G will work inside at all.
5G is totally hyped. It's mostly irrelevant for phones. 4G hasn't even been used to its full extent and compared to that 5G isn't a big step in terms of speed. The advantage of 5G are not in the consumer market...
AC WiFi will soon be supplemented by AX WiFi which about doubles the speed, yet high speed WiFi requires expensive Multi MIMO, which most clients don't support.
I'm curious if 802.11ad every sees the light... that would push a couple gigabits over a line of sight connection (single room wifi).
Actually, Cat5e is perfectly fine for 5GbE over short distance.
AC WiFi will soon be supplemented by AX WiFi which about doubles the speed, yet high speed WiFi requires expensive Multi MIMO, which most clients don't support.
I'm curious if 802.11ad every sees the light... that would push a couple gigabits over a line of sight connection (single room wifi).
Fmello
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While that's impressive, it seems like massive overkill. Getting a rock-solid 50Mbps upload/download speed is more than enough to stream 4k video. Who is sending/receiving multi-gigabyte files on their phones?
jayducharme
macrumors 603
That's really the point of 5G, IMO. As more and more people consume their media on phones or tablets, that bandwidth will be critical to keeping the infrastructure afloat. When I was with AT&T, I lived near a university. When school was in session, download speeds plummeted. When the students went away for the summer, speeds were fine. The more people who are on the network, the slower things get. So 5G should have enough headroom, at least until 8k video becomes the streaming standard.
What’s the point of building 6 lane exit ramps if the motorway only has 2 lanes...
bn-7bc
macrumors 6502a
Probably not, as far as I understand thare us often a dead zone right under the tower iirc it exstends several meters arround it, allto that area is usual fenced in anyway
One aspect of 5G that I've not seen really discussed in this thread is the potential huge strides in latency performance. Things like automated vehicles are coming in our not too distant future and will need to be able to communicate with the grid and each other instantaneously.
CarlJ
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I did a lot of work on 2400bps dialup (after brief use of a 1200bps acoustic coupler), where one often typed ahead of what was being printed on the screen (was pretty good at fixing typos in vi before they'd appeared on the screen), and being able to do the equivalent of wired Ethernet (10mbps!) over the air is still pretty awesome - I remember when that seemed like science fiction.
Excess sugar and processed foods cause cancer, too. But I suppose the difference being that you can avoid those, not radiation from towers.
Time to build tinfoil houses.
For those who are on Verizon plan and want to get 5G, you need to get on their Above and Beyond Unlimited plan plus additional $10 on top.
I think it will be quite some time before we see widespread (mostly in larger cities) 5G service. As current 4G service, it is still inconsistent in speed and this needs to be addressed but who knows how much the carriers will invest in improving coverage. I have done speed tests during my travels and see inconsistencies in speed and signal and have yet to surpass 90mbps with my SE and generally avg 30mbps.
I think it will be quite some time before we see widespread (mostly in larger cities) 5G service. As current 4G service, it is still inconsistent in speed and this needs to be addressed but who knows how much the carriers will invest in improving coverage. I have done speed tests during my travels and see inconsistencies in speed and signal and have yet to surpass 90mbps with my SE and generally avg 30mbps.
Banglazed
macrumors 603
Looks like Apple just published a press release about acquiring Intel model business
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019...majority-of-intels-smartphone-modem-business/
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019...majority-of-intels-smartphone-modem-business/