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5G won’t mean a thing until the entire infrastructure is updated. How many of those 2GB downloads can the tower handle? It requires an Internet backbone to start. That is a ton of potential bandwidth needed per tower. Most websites can’t support anything close to even 100MB.

Let’s be honest - this is the ultimate hype machine that will sell more expensive phones and higher data prices.
 
I thought LTE was originally designed to be scalable. Why is 5G necessary? I feel like this is a ‘just because we can doesn’t necessarily mean we should’ scenario. With throttling data caps it’s the same as that guy driving a muscle car who whips left and right through lanes to get to the red light first. On my iPhone XS Max Safari pages load nearly instantly, apps within what seem like seconds, and almost everything streams without true inconveniences today.
 
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Sure it’s blazing fast when there are what 50 people testing it!!! See what happens when the network get saturated with customers it’ll slow to have that speed.


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I'm not sure I'm buying into the 5G hype. LTE, for me, is fast enough for what I need my device to do. Sure 5G will be faster, but what consumer REALLY needs a faster connection than LTE?

Just my $.02.
 
I have to used fixed 4G wireless for my internet connections now (15/5). If 5G drives the backhaul improvements and I can get something like 100/25 connection speed (truly unlimited, not this Verizon 'unlimited') that would be great.
 
Is it just me or is 5G pretty pointless? I mean what exactly does it offer above 4G in terms of real world usage?

Takes 2 seconds less to load a YouTube video?
 
I agree. IF its anything like that installer video on page one of this thread it could lead to a plague on the world. Im not being light on this matter either. IT seems scary to think of the issues babies will have let alone the entire population if this is world wide.
This article by Devra Davis of the Environmental Health Trust will give you a plethora of detailed and cited information on the negative health effects of 5G: https://medium.com/swlh/ten-corrections-to-william-j-78094d3c1aee
 
How fast is the read/write for flash memory in mobile phones?

iPhone having NVME, how fast is its read/write speed?

Yes you have 1,800 Mbps download speed but your phone only has 450 Mbps write speed. Am I missing something here?
 
Download speed doesn't = data usage.

A 20mb file is still only 20mb no matter how fast you can receive it.

But... if you accidentally click on a link to download a 1GB file (assuming the hypothetical 2Gb/sec speed), you've only got 4 seconds to correct your mistake. That being said, I agree with your point - total data consumption shouldn't change that much unless you're using the speed to take advantage of other types of content (say switching from watching vid in 1080p to 4k).
 
I remember being genuinely excited and impressed by 3G and 4G. They brought real quality of life improvements.

5G seems to be something that only the mobile operators are excited about.

4G gives me very fast speeds, good coverage, VoLTE, HD voice, WiFi Calling.

What does 5G give me? Super fast speeds in a tiny area that is affected by just about everything with potential health risks? No thanks.

Give us further 4G/LTE coverage, not mmwave 5G.
 
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I must say the real advantage is to have higher cap limits or unlimited uses,
but for people wondering why is this useful, its fiber speeds without a fiber wire.

You can update your computer on the go, you can download a full game in a coffee shop and check it out, You can send a lot of files over the internet with the higher upload speeds, you can restore your phone from a backup on the go. If you are traveling, you can restore your whole computer system.

LTE is alright for watching videos, but 5G is the next generation, its like SSDs to HDDS. People were using HDD without complaining and were excited over it(What Jobs launching different mac versions) but now that they use SSDs... they can't go back.
 
Because that video, when downloaded over a faster connection, uses magnitudes more data? It really boggles my mind how people think that faster = more data for things with fixed sizes? It's JUST FASTER! SAME DATA!

If you drive a mile at 25mph and a mile at 75mph, did you go further when you drove at 75mph? Same distance, just did it faster.

I'm not worried about 5G radiation...there is so much radiation already in the air that if it's shortening my life, it's already happened by now.

Emphasis on accidentally. My concern was how much data is downloaded in a short burst before you can back out.

Someone else corrected me on how buffeting works, which was a refreshingly helpful post.
 
Do people realize that 5G will require more towers, closer together? Everyone seems to gloss over the health & safety affects.

What health and safety risks? That’s the question. Aside from dodgy claims that radio waves in cell phones and routers can cause cancer have we seen ANY proof? Studies?
 
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Even in the most densely populated areas 4G signal is still unreliable. My office building gets 90 down/15 up on one side, and cuts in/out of service on the other side. Indoor signal is crap inside most medium and large buildings.

Telecoms can't sell reliability if everyone is already claiming they're near 100% coverage, which is total bs...But they can sell speed without really telling people why it's needed.

What we really need is broad coverage, low latency and reliability if we ever hope to roll out autonomous vehicles, delivery drones and always-on personal assistants.
 
Meaningless. Network/download speeds aren't the limiting factor in how our devices work/perform. LTE is already very fast and has much better coverage than 5G will (for several years).

This is just another feature that will be overhypoed as necessary when it will make practically no difference to the consumer.
That's just pure ignorance. "We do not need better performance!". Really? That's NFC 2.0 all over again. We do not need NFC! That is until Apple starts using it, then we are all aboard. I understand why some AAPL investors are trying to trivialize 5G until Apple manages to get one in their phones, but come on, don't take people here for fools.
 
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That's just pure ignorance. "We do not need better performance!". Really? That's NFC 2.0 all over again. We do not need NFC! That is until Apple starts using it, then we are all aboard. I understand why some AAPL investors are trying to trivialize 5G until Apple manages to get one in their phones, but come on, don't take people here for fools.

Not ignorance, simple fact. And what does NFC have to do with connection speeds over cellular? Oh right, nothing at all.

The ONLY real benefit of 5G for smartphone users (it has other benefits for industry that don’t matter to consumers) is the ability to handle more connections (like 50,000 people at a football game). However, venues like that are already implementing other solutions to solve that problem so it’s really a non-issue.
 
Not ignorance, simple fact. And what does NFC have to do with connection speeds over cellular? Oh right, nothing at all.

The ONLY real benefit of 5G for smartphone users (it has other benefits for industry that don’t matter to consumers) is the ability to handle more connections (like 50,000 people at a football game). However, venues like that are already implementing other solutions to solve that problem so it’s really a non-issue.

"And what does NFC have to do with connection speeds over cellular?" From a technical perspective - nothing. It has everything to do with the same psychology of a certain group of Apple fans/investors who are eager to deny the benefits of new tech when it is available on the devices from Apple competitors but not on Apple devices.

Also, since Apple is adding 5G in 2020, it looks like you are accusing Apple in trying to extract more money from their customers by adding unnecessary features. You'll probably have to switch to cheap Android phones without 5G to avoid being played by the "industry".
 
That's just pure ignorance. "We do not need better performance!". Really? That's NFC 2.0 all over again. We do not need NFC! That is until Apple starts using it, then we are all aboard. I understand why some AAPL investors are trying to trivialize 5G until Apple manages to get one in their phones, but come on, don't take people here for fools.

iPhone read/write speed

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-8-8-plus-x-ssd-storage-speed-test-64-256gb.2068443/
 
I think people questioning why this is necessary are only thinking about current usage and not future usage.

When you are streaming 8K 360 degree AR to your wireless contact lens, you are going to be happy that you are on a 6G network that was built on top of the 5G network.
 
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I remember being genuinely excited and impressed by 3G and 4G. They brought real quality of life improvements.

5G seems to be something that only the mobile operators are excited about.

4G gives me very fast speeds, good coverage, VoLTE, HD voice, WiFi Calling.

What does 5G give me? Super fast speeds in a tiny area that is affected by just about everything with potential health risks? No thanks.

Give us further 4G/LTE coverage, not mmwave 5G.


Maybe 4G/LTE with 5G backhaul is the right combination. Right now with 4G on my drive to the airport I lose service about for about 1/2 the drive even though the area is well inside the Verizon coverage map.
 
"And what does NFC have to do with connection speeds over cellular?" From a technical perspective - nothing. It has everything to do with the same psychology of a certain group of Apple fans/investors who are eager to deny the benefits of new tech when it is available on the devices from Apple competitors but not on Apple devices.

Also, since Apple is adding 5G in 2020, it looks like you are accusing Apple in trying to extract more money from their customers by adding unnecessary features. You'll probably have to switch to cheap Android phones without 5G to avoid being played by the "industry".

I see. So without facts to back your claim you resort to the usual "Apple fans are blind to anything other than Apple".
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Maybe 4G/LTE with 5G backhaul is the right combination. Right now with 4G on my drive to the airport I lose service about for about 1/2 the drive even though the area is well inside the Verizon coverage map.

Do you think 5G is going to make this better (your losing connection during your drive)?
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I think people questioning why this is necessary are only thinking about current usage and not future usage.

When you are streaming 8K 360 degree AR to your wireless contact lens, you are going to be happy that you are on a 6G network that was built on top of the 5G network.

That's reasonable. Except for the fact nobody has that technology today, nor will they for many years to come.

Can you honestly think of a use-case for 5G right now that will have a real-world benefit to smartphone users?
 
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