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This Dell is 5k at 120hz and is 40 inches. It's currently on sale for 1799.99.
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Testing the New ASUS ProArt 5K Display
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This Dell is 5k at 120hz and is 40 inches. It's currently on sale for 1799.99.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
...or use a much superior (to ASD) camera via Continuity Camera and much superior (to ASD) dedicated speakers from third parties which can be had for only $100-$150 (often with wireless subs for superior bass to what can be generated by relatively tiny speakers built into any of these monitors). Yes, that latter is adding some extra hardware and additional expense but then both of those won't be married to the monitor when it comes time to replace it either.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
And it is fantastic! That's the one I chose for my Silicon Mac and could never go back to any of these squarish screen form factors. All that added R.E. is just way too useful for Mac tasks. The screen looks just like the old iMac 27" it replaced... except there is much more screen width. And the built-in hub is loaded with both "the future" and "the present" jacks instead of just a few of only one kind.
Multiple video inputs mean it's easy to hook more than only 1 computing device to it. For example, with the loss of bootcamp and ARM Windows not being full windows, I knew I'd have to go "old fashioned bootcamp" too. So I picked up a Mac Mini-like PC and it too is connected to the same monitor. When I need Windows apps and/or PC Power (vs. PPW efficiency), I run in true Windows on PC hardware. When I need Mac, I see macOS on the same screen. I can even split screen to have both side by side. The built-in hub has KVM functionality so that one keyboard and mouse can work with both... and both can use connected speakers, cameras, additional hubs, etc.
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What is that notch at the top of the display in the video? And why isn't it in the thumbnail of the video since it's in every shot in the video itself. Speaking of the video thumbnail, funny how the graphics obscure the really ugly rat's nest (cord management hole) on the base. 🤣
Some folks have mentioned that it's 60Hz rather than 120. Interesting, since the ASUS uses HDMI 2.1, which is fast enough to move a 120Hz signal across 5K. So I guess that's one reason it's $799, they cheaped out on some of the components that would have allowed for the features that some of the people want.
Glad to hear Dan is happy with the quality of the display itself, though. That is the #1 thing after all. But man does it look cheap and plasticky, and apparently the speakers are terrible (ASD has the best built-in speakers I've heard).
Would love it if there was a real competitor for the ASD without the sacrifices that the ASUS and Samsung products seem to make. I'd love for Apple to feel downward pressure on their price point, but I'm afraid that they can point at something like this and say "it's cheap, it's not our competition." And what a shame that is.
Some folks have mentioned that it's 60Hz rather than 120. Interesting, since the ASUS uses HDMI 2.1, which is fast enough to move a 120Hz signal across 5K. So I guess that's one reason it's $799, they cheaped out on some of the components that would have allowed for the features that some of the people want.
Glad to hear Dan is happy with the quality of the display itself, though. That is the #1 thing after all. But man does it look cheap and plasticky, and apparently the speakers are terrible (ASD has the best built-in speakers I've heard).
Would love it if there was a real competitor for the ASD without the sacrifices that the ASUS and Samsung products seem to make. I'd love for Apple to feel downward pressure on their price point, but I'm afraid that they can point at something like this and say "it's cheap, it's not our competition." And what a shame that is.
I mean, maybe I'm alone here but I feel like it's a tough call with all these new high refresh rate OLED monitors that have been getting released.
I got one a few weeks ago - just want to confirm that the "notch" in the video is not a feature of the display. Completely notch-less.
Sounds great, but with 139 PPI - wouldn’t that look blurry?
I have that Dell but it is Not a real 5k Display. It is only a wider 4K.
Half the price of the Studio Display
Small differences aside, this thing is objectively outstanding for an $800 MSRP
Small differences aside, this thing is objectively outstanding for an $800 MSRP
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I have 20:20 vision and it looks just as sharp as the old iMac. I fully grasp all of the Retina concepts, etc. but seeing is believing. Fine text looks nice & clear to my eyes. It's likely carried at nearby monitor retailers near anyone reading this. Take a MB or Mini to such a store, hook it up and judge with your own eyes.
If I broke out a magnifying glass and did a careful analysis, I could likely see the pixel density difference... but in just normal use at normal distance, it looks like I somehow stretched the old iMac screen out to a much wider screen. And- IMO: it's just freakin' great to have all of that additional workspace for macOS and Windows.
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Agreed, but if I recall correctly, we’re going to start seeing 5K120+ panels later this year, and I’d guess we’ll see 5K120 displays launch at or before CES in 2026. At the very least Samsung has mentioned they have them coming.
I’ve been impatiently waiting for 5K120+ since 2011. I’ve already moved to DP80 cables in anticipation.
Honestly, blame NVIDIA on this one. AMD has supported DisplayPort 2.1x since the Radeon 7000 series, but only with the RTX 5000 series did NVIDIA finally standardize on it (2.1b). NVIDIA finally moving on to it ensured there’d be a large enough TAM to genuinely support it outside of purely professional use cases.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
5K across and 2K (2160 down) vs. ASD 5K across and 2880 pixels down. It's not wider 4K but it is wider 5K. The sacrifice is in some pixels in the vertical... and however we want to feel about spreading 5K out to a wider screen enclosure instead of compressing them into thinner work space.
It's also 120Hz instead of 60Hz. So if one can handle the loss of 720 pixels in the vertical, they can enjoy that doubled Hz, so often slung around to rationalize other Apple tech.
And then there's the abundant built-in hub/KVM vs. only a couple of jacks of one type...
...which I find tremendously useful myself.
It doesn't have a built-in cam but Continuity Camera allows us to use far superior camera quality to fully wash that. It doesn't have good speakers but anyone wanting great speakers should have bought great third party ones which easily outperform tiny little speakers baked into a thin case of any monitor (or TV) including ASDs. And of course, it doesn't have an Apple logo but one could stick on an Apple sticker and likely fool anyone if that's the most important thing to us.
To each his own of course. I certainly consider it an excellent option for Mac people wanting more screen for the same money. Or one could buy TWO of these new ASUS monitors for TWO 5K monitors side-by-side as another alternative for about the same money as ASD too.
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First of all, this display has build-in speakers, but they are really, terribly low quality.
Regarding the Studio display, you are not paying hundreds of dollars more for a low-end built-in webcam and a low-end built-in speakers. The build-in webcam is fine, but certainly not low-end, and the build-in speakers are really good, almost as good as a 2.1 Klipsch computer speaker system. Some people might even find them better than Klipsch.
But that's not all. With the Studio Display, you also pay more for a cable-free desktop with no external speakers and no external webcam, you also pay for a beautiful design, unparalleled build quality, a metal and glass body (instead of a plastic screen and black plastic body), a seamless integration with brightness and volume controls on your keyboard, and better and more accessible ports. You also pay for good resale value and the option to take it to an Apple Store if something breaks.
Does it justify the higher price tag? It depends on your needs. For me, it certainly does, but I understand that some people might prefer a cheaper but uglier and less functional option.
Why would anyone make a [IMO small] curved 24" display? Curve is only beneficial on wide displays.I'm actually looking for a curved 24" 1440 display but nobody makes it yet.
If I wanted a bigger display, this looks pretty good.
Anyone seriously interested in "the best display" isn't worried about the potato camera and some built in speakers on an ASD
Spend $800 less and put that money towards objectively better sound and a webcam (if you even want/need one)
Spend $800 less and put that money towards objectively better sound and a webcam (if you even want/need one)
That is a 5K2K screen. Not true 5K with 2880 vertical. The 40” size means the pixel density is probably down in the 130lpi range.
2160 down means you have a vertical space equivalent to a classic 1080p monitor, which is really bad for any kind of productivity work. The curved surface makes it bad for any kind of design work. The low pixel density also makes it undesirable for people who don't want to see individual pixels.5K across and 2K (2160 down) vs. ASD 5K across and 2880 pixels down. It's not wider 4K but it is wider 5K. The sacrifice is in some pixels in the vertical... and however we want to feel about spreading 5K out to a wider screen enclosure instead of compressing them into thinner work space.
It's also 120Hz instead of 60Hz. So if one can handle the loss of 720 pixels in the vertical, they can enjoy that doubled Hz, so often slung around to rationalize other Apple tech.
And then there's the abundant built-in hub/KVM vs. only a couple of jacks of one type...
...which I find tremendously useful myself.
It doesn't have a built-in cam but Continuity Camera allows us to use far superior camera quality to fully wash that. It doesn't have good speakers but anyone wanting great speakers should have bought great third party ones which easily outperform tiny little speakers baked into a thin case of any monitor (or TV). And of course, it doesn't have an Apple logo but one could stick on an Apple sticker and likely fool anyone if that's the most important thing to us.
To each his own of course. I certainly consider it an excellent option for Mac people wanting more screen for the same money. Or one could buy TWO of these new ASUS monitors for TWO 5K monitors side-by-side as another alternative for about the same money as ASD too.
I still think it might be tempting for some who want to replace two 27" 1080p displays (which are really bad in the first place), and it might work for a lot of people, but there is a day and night difference between this display and a proper 27" 5K one.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Any Apple people almost certainly also own an iDevice and the Continuity Camera option crushes the built-in cam. Assuming all such people own an iDevice, no need spending more for a camera. Use the great one already (literally) in hand.
Screen real estate is great. And it can be done without losing straight line perspective or reducing resolution by using multiple non-curving displays. I have been doing it for a decade. And with multiple displays different apps on different displays can be displayed at different resolutions.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes, I hear you. So anyone who shares this view can pick up TWO of these ASUS monitors to use side by side for the price of one ASD monitor. That will get you 10K over the two and 2880 down on BOTH of them.
But let me guess: there will be something wrong with this too.
Incidentally: I do LOTS of productivity & design work on this Dell monitor and I do not find it undesirable at all. Much design is not done over the full width of the monitor but within windows taking up a portion of it... which is much closer to being nearly flat. In fact, I can't think of ONE project in 10 years where I needed to work edge to edge and this curve- if I had it all these years- would have been an impactful variable.
My usual "hidpi" mode is 3840X1620 but I'll step it to full when working in productivity apps with horizontal timelines like FCPX or GB/Logic and similar as it serves my purposes. No problems at all for me for "productivity work." What I don't like- what really pounds the productivity- is when I have to hit the road and thus return to a squarish monitor on a MB... because then wider productivity apps like those turn into a scroll-fest because I don't have the abundant width available to me... which was the same on the old iMac and thus would be the same on ASD... or this ASUS... or the Samsung, or LG, etc.
To each his own of course. All happy with ASD, be happy. All who could be happy with this ASUS, be happy. I'm quite happy with the monitor hooked to my Mac... and plenty productive with it.
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It's a shame that here in Canada, Amazon Canada does not have them nor do any of the Canadian online stores that I've been searching for over a week now.
Vistek has it for special order (note: it's final sale): https://www.vistek.ca/store/475228/asus-proart-display-pa27jcv-27-5k-hdr-monitor
There are a lot of curved 24" displays being sold now. Unfortunately, they are all 1080 resolution.
If you want 1440 resolution, they make them in 24" but they are all flatscreen.