I wasn't talking about bugs though, I myself have never experienced any in Lion outside of CS5. I was talking about battery life, not bugs, battery life.
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I wasn't talking about bugs though, I myself have never experienced any in Lion outside of CS5. I was talking about battery life, not bugs, battery life.
I did an update from Lion to Mountain Lion and it was far better than my experience upgrading to Lion.
Going from Snow Leopard to Lion was a mess, it was slow, the whole computer slowed down, programs crashed, beachballs of death every hour, just a bad experience. A clean install of Lion later fixed some of the issues but it was such a bad OS overall Apple gave me a refund for the OS.
Jump to Mountain Lion, I had one hiccup while upgrading from the App Store...the login screen first time after install froze up. But other than that it's been eons ahead of Lion in terms of stability, quality, and usage.
My battery life seems slightly improved over when I was running Lion but still not as good as when on Snow Leopard...I did have the battery replaced about a year ago so I'm running on a year old battery. But overall my battery life is the same if not slightly better than Lion.
This all on a mid 2009 Core 2 Duo MBP.
Going from Snow Leopard to Lion was a mess, it was slow, the whole computer slowed down, programs crashed, beachballs of death every hour, just a bad experience. A clean install of Lion later fixed some of the issues but it was such a bad OS overall Apple gave me a refund for the OS.
Jump to Mountain Lion, I had one hiccup while upgrading from the App Store...the login screen first time after install froze up. But other than that it's been eons ahead of Lion in terms of stability, quality, and usage.
My battery life seems slightly improved over when I was running Lion but still not as good as when on Snow Leopard...I did have the battery replaced about a year ago so I'm running on a year old battery. But overall my battery life is the same if not slightly better than Lion.
This all on a mid 2009 Core 2 Duo MBP.
Strangely, It seems to me that my battery life has improved in my Macbook Pro since the ML update..
Also, this update from lion to mountain lion has been incredibly smoother than from snow leopard to lion. I had to wipe and reinstall lion after the upgrade screwed up all of my installed programs.
Also, this update from lion to mountain lion has been incredibly smoother than from snow leopard to lion. I had to wipe and reinstall lion after the upgrade screwed up all of my installed programs.
I noticed a decline in battery life on my Retina Macbook, but never thought much about it. I guess this is the reason.
No...there IS reason to get worked up. Stop being an Apple apologist. When I upgrade to a newer version of an OS, I do expect my system's battery life to remain relatively unchanged. Yes, the new OS may contain features that drain the battery a bit more, but by 30 percent or more?!?
Apple should be doing testing before release to understand battery life impact, especially when battery life is a highly-touted feature in Mac laptops.If this were to happen with Windows 8, I'm sure all of you Apple fanatics out there would criticize MS for doing this.
Regardless, a reduction in 30% is NOT acceptable, especially since ML is more of a minor update. Apple needs to do better testing and tighten up their release criteria.
Gotta admit, I'm kinda glad I've been waiting to upgrade. I lost battery life when I switched to Lion. Oof... here's hoping a fix is released soon!
No...there IS reason to get worked up. Stop being an Apple apologist. When I upgrade to a newer version of an OS, I do expect my system's battery life to remain relatively unchanged. Yes, the new OS may contain features that drain the battery a bit more, but by 30 percent or more?!?
If this were to happen with Windows 8, I'm sure all of you Apple fanatics out there would criticize MS for doing this.
Regardless, a reduction in 30% is NOT acceptable, especially since ML is more of a minor update. Apple needs to do better testing and tighten up their release criteria.
So far the evidence is Windows 8 requires less hardware then Windows 7 to get the same performance. I would imagine that means improved battery life on laptops.
It's kind of refreshing to _not_ read a bunch of posts bashing the source of this report. That's a very fashionable way to attack on this forum. Bash the source, discredit them. Ars Technica must be a sacred cow, safe from immediate condemnation.
If true, it's strange that Apple did not catch this during testing. Battery life is a pretty fundamental function, and not terribly complex. l wonder if they knew about it, but ran out of time and simply decided to deal with it a bit later.
Who knows, who cares? There's A/C outlets nearly everywhere. We know Apple will fix it sooner or later
If true, it's strange that Apple did not catch this during testing. Battery life is a pretty fundamental function, and not terribly complex. l wonder if they knew about it, but ran out of time and simply decided to deal with it a bit later.
Who knows, who cares? There's A/C outlets nearly everywhere. We know Apple will fix it sooner or later
OK, let's add this to the list of played out, please-let's-not-use-these-anymore phrases:
Steve Jobs would never have allowed this to happen
Safari is snappier
That's what she said
Get off your high horse
Take my money!
(Well, maybe we can keep "that's what she said"
Can we also add the following types of post:
a) Dismissing of of any bad news stories due to:
i) Anecdotal evidence of one person's experience versus a controlled test which may be considered empirical
ii) Links to Gizmodo
iii) It simply being bad news, and therefore a vendetta
b) 'Plays' on the name Samsung
c) Convoluted, absurd suppositions trying to make out that design faults or security flaws might actually be intentional
d) Justification of removal of functionality from devices (*waves at Siri on the iPhone 4), or claiming innovations are far more amazing than they are (New maps- Might be a huge effort, and offer additional functionality, but it's only the incremental functionality that is of benefit to the end user)
e) Dismissing any move by Google as one-dimensional tactics to steal your data
Yes, mistakes happen, but this is pretty severe. I work for a software company. We have well-defined, measurable release criteria and if our software doesn't meet the criteria, we don't release. I imagine Apple does the same...so in this case, it's not like a mistake in code occurred and a small defect made it past their QA process. Battery life should be a release criteria that is measured and evaluated against.
STOP apologizing for Apple. Especially since both Apple and all of its fanatics love to claim "it just works". If they want to claim that, then they should back it up with better testing.
Hmmm... so the new OS has issues? what a surprise...
A classic Apple ad comes to mind, but in a different context:
(showing B&W pics of frustrated users....)
I wonder why so many non-pro users fall for the same trap every time....
A classic Apple ad comes to mind, but in a different context:
"Here's to the crazy ones. The brave. The naive. The early adopters. The risk takers despite the long time experience. The ones who want the latest OS no matter what. They're not afraid of kernel panics. And they have no respect for previous yet stable OS.
You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or ridicule them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they complain about things.
They push the OS X race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see screwed users. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can upgrade to OS X X.X.0 without issues, are the ones who do, and later regret it."
You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or ridicule them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they complain about things.
They push the OS X race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see screwed users. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can upgrade to OS X X.X.0 without issues, are the ones who do, and later regret it."
(showing B&W pics of frustrated users....)
I wonder why so many non-pro users fall for the same trap every time....
Well if some random blog on the Internet said it, it must me true, right?
Give me a break...
1) I wouldn't call Ars Technica some "random" blog.
2) Just because you aren't experiencing the issue doesn't mean it is a non-issue.
3) The
in addition to your comment make you look arrogant and ignorant at best.I can't speak to the first two issues you mentioned, but Messages handles pictures just fine for me. Not sure what problem you're having, but I can add pics to my messages by simply copying the image file with a right click, and then pasting it into the message.
Personally I think they should include an "add a picture button" to the Mac Messages app like it is on iOS, it would make it a better experience.
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Back OT, my amazing new 13" MBA is pretty much plugged in 24/7, so I'm not sure how ML has affected it.
Mine worked OK for a while, but then no messages with pictures would come through, and messages could not be sent with pictures. If I opened the File Transfers window, everything was just sitting there spinning with no progress.
I'm not alone:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4155469?start=0&tstart=0
could it have anything to do with the increased use of GPU for acceleration?
I don't have issues and I do tend to monitor my GPU with GPU Card status
I don't have issues and I do tend to monitor my GPU with GPU Card status
It seems like quality has been deteriorating at Apple since Steve's death. Does anyone think he really would have allowed this to happen?
ML work's perfect on my late 2011 17" 2.4 ghz mbp. Battery life is around 8h at half brightness and light websurfing, mail and imessage running. It stays really cool. Usually under 40 C.
I've made my fans run at 6005 RPM whenever it is on, and I usually use is when it is docked into my monitor, so I really don't care about the battery life. It would be nice to have my computer last more than 3 hours when running VERY CPU / GPU intensive things. Maybe it has to do with the fans though. Running ML since June, fresh install, though upgraded from beta to 10.8.0.
Also, anyone else notice the broke fan control? Without a manual over ride the fans seem to max at 4000 RPM, even with the CPU above 100 C
Also, anyone else notice the broke fan control? Without a manual over ride the fans seem to max at 4000 RPM, even with the CPU above 100 C