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Hahaha the tether logo looks like a guy flipping off the carriers!

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What?
Look, I'm not disagreeing that their response was calm and measured. It was, and good on them for that. But I know why it was measured and I picked up on, just like we all did, the tone behind that measurement.

So basically you are agreeing with me for the most part? Why then the "what"?

I don't think "we all... picked up on... the tone" you are picking up on.

I guess I just think your initial metaphor was a lot of huff-n-puff. It was not measured. Tether's response was (as you admit). I guess I'm just not getting this subliminal subtext of "Apple, we will destroy you! You will rue the day you ever pulled our app!" in Tether's statement.

Again, I'm not sure how they could've responded any more professionally than they did. People would have complained if they didn't respond. I'm just not seeing how Tether is the metaphorical Big Bad Wolf trying to blow down helpless little piggy Apple's house. Rather, it seemed like they respectfully provided their side of the story, briefly made their case, and expressed an understandable sense of disappointment.

Simply disagreeing with an Apple decision doesn't automatically make someone the Big Bad Wolf. Maybe Tether will huff-n-puff in the future, but I just didn't see it in the statement.
 
AT&T was probably whining about it, as it takes away their extra income.

But they are stupid and come up with that lame excuse that it causes burden on their network, and can't figure out that if tethering actually increases network traffic, their users would be using their data plan much faster, needing to either upgrade their plan or purchase more bandwidth.

2 GB is 2 GB no matter if the users tethers or not. In the past there was no "Tethering charge". AT&T was the first to come up with that brilliant idea.
 
Dmg helpppp

Is anyone else having trouble with the .dmg? i'v download 3 times from tether.com and every time i try to mount the dmg it gives me a Warning, dmg not recognized error message. Can anyone help??
 
So basically you are agreeing with me for the most part? Why then the "what"?

I don't think "we all... picked up on... the tone" you are picking up on.

I guess I just think your initial metaphor was a lot of huff-n-puff. It was not measured. Tether's response was (as you admit). I guess I'm just not getting this subliminal subtext of "Apple, we will destroy you! You will rue the day you ever pulled our app!" in Tether's statement.

Again, I'm not sure how they could've responded any more professionally than they did. People would have complained if they didn't respond. I'm just not seeing how Tether is the metaphorical Big Bad Wolf trying to blow down helpless little piggy Apple's house. Rather, it seemed like they respectfully provided their side of the story, briefly made their case, and expressed an understandable sense of disappointment.

Simply disagreeing with an Apple decision doesn't automatically make someone the Big Bad Wolf. Maybe Tether will huff-n-puff in the future, but I just didn't see it in the statement.
Very well said. I agree that Tether isn't a big bad wolf here. And I'm not going to sit here and try to think of a more proper metaphor because we're beating a dead horse (also a metaphor... eh).

Point is and was meant to be that I just don't like it when anyone, forget that we're dealing with companies here, gets upset in any way for having to deal with "the rules" as they may be.

The same thing goes, and for the love of God let's not get into this topic, I'm just making a point, with politics. We all love to complain and protest, go on big fancy TV shows with swooshing graphics and sound effects, and get comfy on our soapboxes. But when election day comes, we're still at it, rather than standing in a booth, pulling a lever to try and change things.
 
I find this statement grossly underestimated:

Quote: average user consumes less than 200 MBs of data per month on Tether

Sitting and watching a few YouTube videos everyday will push you way over that.

Who in their right mind needs to stream YouTube over their phone's data plan? I've had my iPhone for about 5 months now, and have received a grand total of 355 MB over that time. You can get Wi-Fi most everywhere, so why stream against your plan? If you need a big download, plan ahead and do it from a Wi-Fi zone. It's worked great for me.

Tethering is is becominng so unneeded with all the Wi-Fi available. I'm surprised anyone even bothers with it.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3)

This should've been expected, yet they're acting surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if we see this in Cydia soon, hopefully not priced at more than $5.

I've had my unlimited data plan taken away from AT&T because they caught me tethering, so I don't have to worry about any of these types of apps anymore. DataPro 4GB is kinda nice. Not worth the extra $15 though #.


What app did you use to tether? Was it iTether or another app from the Cydia Store?
if it was an app from the App Store, then AT&T shouldn't be allowed to take away your unlimited plan. Get yourself a lawyer who's willing to take the case to make the news.
 
Why do carriers care? If I have say a 1GB per month plan, why does it matter if I use that 1GB over the month on my phone, or in one day (or week) on my computer? 1GB is 1GB, why does it matter how I use it, on which device, or how fast I use it? 1GB is 1GB, and its my 1GB to use.. after all the customer is paying for the 1GB, shouldn't they be able to use it how ever THEY wish?

The dam will eventually break. Right now tethering is a feature they can charge extra for, eventually it will be an included feature. It's just the nature of business. They want to make the money while they can. Once the first carrier uses "free tethering" as a marketing and selling point the rest will cave here in the US. Nickel and diming is just the nature of the mobile phone market. Does it stink, YES! Will it eventually change, YES!
 
I'd like to know what carriers are pressuring apple over this, so I can go ahead and boycott them.

I know it won't do anything directly but I don't want to be giving them my money, especially as they are thwarting technological progress.

I'll give you three guesses
 
The dam will eventually break. Right now tethering is a feature they can charge extra for, eventually it will be an included feature. It's just the nature of business. They want to make the money while they can. Once the first carrier uses "free tethering" as a marketing and selling point the rest will cave here in the US. Nickel and diming is just the nature of the mobile phone market. Does it stink, YES! Will it eventually change, YES!

Not if AT&T becomes the only GSM carrier in the US....
 
Apple caving in to carriers. Scary...

Apple's reaction can only have been a result from the carriers demanding that the app be pulled.

I just moved from Europe to the US. In Europe, HotSpot was a free service, included with my regular iPhone contract. Here in the US, where carriers are even more desperate than in Europe, they charge a ridiculous amount of money for it.

This app was threatening that revenue stream.

I get nervous thinking about the concentration of power when it comes to communication networks. The pulling of this app benefits nobody but the carriers and their pocketbooks.

If Washington had any guts, it would look into these kinds of practices where a few large providers cooperate to limit the rights of the many and the small.
 
I'm all for wanting to change how it all works out, but getting mad at Apple for doing what it's always done and then going out and buying 44 million iPhone 4S' isn't really helping a damn thing.

I'd say that, statistically, what they've "always done" is just not approve apps like this. In this case they approved it and then changed their minds, thus jerking everyone around.

So, no, we're in fact getting mad at Apple for NOT doing what they've always done.

Had they rejected it 2 days ago (and thus, do what they've always done), then no one here would be commenting at all.

So your comment is completely backwards.
 
You can use GoogleTalk, AIM, Yahoo! Instant Messenger, and now iMessage all day long, but SMS (which uses less than 2MB per month for most users) still costs $20 per month unlimited with AT&T and $30 per month for the family plan.

One SMS Message = 160 characters (max, most are less on average)
10 SMS Messages = 1.5K (1600 characters)
10000 SMS Messages = 1.5MB

If anybody is using more then 10,000 SMS messages per month I would be amazed, but even at 100K messages you are looking at 15MB. Somehow I don't think the SMS messaging is burdening the carrier network in any way.

I think the carriers should use some of that SMS revenue to help expand that network that is supposedly overburdened by tethering/wifi hotspot functionality.

Especially since SMS uses otherwise-unused bandwidth in the VOICE band. (You can SMS even if you have no data connection, as long as you have a voice connection.)
 
I'm glad it got pulled.

A lot of network congestion just for the sake of being able to cheat the system.

I would rather have a clear network.

If you don't think this would have been a problem, go to San Francisco where bandwidth has been bought to its knees and speeds suck everywhere form people abusing the system
 
Reading deeper into this, I believe Apple pulled it under pressure from the networks, who would rather people pay the fees for tethering. I think Apple approved this app knowing full well they would be asked to pull it by the carriers.

Very impressive deep reading! :rolleyes: Was is the line about carrier burden that tipped you off?
 
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