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Point is and was meant to be that I just don't like it when anyone, forget that we're dealing with companies here, gets upset in any way for having to deal with "the rules" as they may be.

Since when does being a customer mean you give up the right to complain or get upset. It's not exactly unheard of for companies to change in response from pressure from customers. Take the debit card fees as an example.
 
I'm glad it got pulled.

A lot of network congestion just for the sake of being able to cheat the system.

I would rather have a clear network.

If you don't think this would have been a problem, go to San Francisco where bandwidth has been bought to its knees and speeds suck everywhere form people abusing the system

So you're saying the network in San Francisco sucked before this app comes out.

Now, they pulled the app after 12 hours and the network in San Francisco will become "clear" because of that?

What?
 
didnt this same thing just happen last week. a game company got an app on the app store. apple took it down the next day. the gaming company said they dont understand. people on here said they were probably lying about how well they planned with apple.

im beginning to think apple is playing too many 'games' with their customer base.
 
Like airlines charging to check bags, carriers want to hit you with every fee that can. Simply put this is the carriers screwing the consumer. I don't blaim Apple or the developer.
 
agreed Kid A

So basically you are agreeing with me for the most part? Why then the "what"?

I don't think "we all... picked up on... the tone" you are picking up on.

I guess I just think your initial metaphor was a lot of huff-n-puff. It was not measured. Tether's response was (as you admit). I guess I'm just not getting this subliminal subtext of "Apple, we will destroy you! You will rue the day you ever pulled our app!" in Tether's statement.

Again, I'm not sure how they could've responded any more professionally than they did. People would have complained if they didn't respond. I'm just not seeing how Tether is the metaphorical Big Bad Wolf trying to blow down helpless little piggy Apple's house. Rather, it seemed like they respectfully provided their side of the story, briefly made their case, and expressed an understandable sense of disappointment.

Simply disagreeing with an Apple decision doesn't automatically make someone the Big Bad Wolf. Maybe Tether will huff-n-puff in the future, but I just didn't see it in the statement.

"mr. pink" plays loose with words, then hops on anyone who disagrees or uses words like he does.
also, i'm always suspicious of people who say things like: " I picked up on, just like we all did, the tone behind that measurement" like they have this special gift of seeing 'beneath' the words, a living breathing subtext genius.
reminds me of my lit prof two years ago who always let everyone know she knew what they were thinking (even if they weren't thinking it.) my aunt, a retired schoolteacher, has the same quality which, annually, makes family dinners (thanksgiving) an evening of pure boredom. she would answer student complaints by sniffing...if you don't like my class, then take another, but at dinner simply drinks some more wine and reels on.
 
Very impressive deep reading! :rolleyes: Was is the line about carrier burden that tipped you off?

you couldnt just agree with the guy and go on your merry way? you just had to show how much of a prick you are by posting such a jerky comment?
 
Since when does being a customer mean you give up the right to complain or get upset. It's not exactly unheard of for companies to change in response from pressure from customers. Take the debit card fees as an example.
Perfectly valid point. Just my opinion as is your own. I'll continue to think it's silly and that there are more effective ways to exact change; You continue to complain on internet forums. And I'll continue to complain about your complaining, and then you'll continue to... oh the fantastic cycle. :p
 
By "what they've always done" I meant that they've more than clearly shown throughout their history with the App Store that they can and will pull an app they've previously allowed onto the store if they feel like it.

Being their business, they have every right to do that. Just as you usually have the right to return items to the store after you've taken them home. It's normal business practice. Conditions change, minds change, everything constantly changes. Get used to it.
 
"mr. pink" plays loose with words, then hops on anyone who disagrees or uses words like he does.
also, i'm always suspicious of people who say things like: " I picked up on, just like we all did, the tone behind that measurement" like they have this special gift of seeing 'beneath' the words, a living breathing subtext genius.
reminds me of my lit prof two years ago who always let everyone know she knew what they were thinking (even if they weren't thinking it.) my aunt, a retired schoolteacher, has the same quality which, annually, makes family dinners (thanksgiving) an evening of pure boredom. she would answer student complaints by sniffing...if you don't like my class, then take another, but at dinner simply drinks some more wine and reels on.
I'd love for you to show all of us where I play loose with words. I'm very specific in my opinions and leave little to no room for interpretation. From page 1 to 6 I never changed my stance.

If you're taking my ability to concede to others' opinions and allow myself to admit when I'm wrong, then yeah. I'm human and I admit to mistakes and shortcomings, but don't you dare try to paint me as this mover and shaker.

As for your suspicion, hold onto it tightly. I still claim to have an "ability" to form an opinion when I read things.
 
What I'm confused about is that nearly everyone with an iPhone has a data plan that is no longer unlimited. That means we PAY for the airtime we use. How in the world is this a burden on the network?!?

It's times like this I wish the carriers would just go to hell and we would all setup wifi locations everywhere and use Skype or (insert your own VOIP software here.)

Ma Bell is back in full force. Keep holding on to that worthless business model.


Hay Carriers, just shut up and take my internet data plan money!

The Bells were elitist pigs that thought they owned the right to control communications.

So yea, thats a great analogy to AT&T and similar.
 
Since when does being a customer mean you give up the right to complain or get upset. It's not exactly unheard of for companies to change in response from pressure from customers. Take the debit card fees as an example.

Only problem being, in the case of Debit card fees, consumers were switching to the smaller banks that offered no fee cards.

In this case there no one the consumer could turn to. Not to mention checking accounts don't require long contracts with penalties for leaving early.
 
I'm glad it got pulled.

A lot of network congestion just for the sake of being able to cheat the system.

I would rather have a clear network.

If you don't think this would have been a problem, go to San Francisco where bandwidth has been bought to its knees and speeds suck everywhere form people abusing the system

How does this cause more network congestion than "official" tethering?

I have used tethering on various phones, including iPhones, through the years. My HIGHEST data-usage month was just shy of 2 GB.

I pay AT&T $30 for "unlimited" data, yet they want to charge me $50 a month to tether, which will add a data cap. And I've used less than that data cap even WHEN tethering.
 
Only problem being, in the case of Debit card fees, consumers were switching to the smaller banks that offered no fee cards.

In this case there no one the consumer could turn to.

There's smaller regional mobile phone companies that people could turn to. They may not have the iPhone, but there are mobile alternatives.
 
Only problem being, in the case of Debit card fees, consumers were switching to the smaller banks that offered no fee cards.

In this case there no one the consumer could turn to.
Oh please. No one? You're saying when the iPhone came out companies like Tracfone went out of business?

I know, I know. What I just said can start a whole conversation on the fact that you can't do A, B or C on X, Y or Z alternative carrier. Fine. Maybe some of us can change things ourselves and start a carrier that only carrys "good guys" on their network and only supports app stores with perfect policies. Or we can start a phone manufacturing company that makes phones that run everything everyone wants all the time, but is perfectly safe and offends no one.

:rolleyes:
 
Yeah, not sure what the refund policy is as I have never tried to get my money back, but Apple should give a refund people who want one. Then just remove the app from their account. There's no way to update the app, so what's the point.
 
I'm glad it got pulled.

A lot of network congestion just for the sake of being able to cheat the system.

I would rather have a clear network.

If you don't think this would have been a problem, go to San Francisco where bandwidth has been bought to its knees and speeds suck everywhere form people abusing the system

I pay for an Unlimited Data plan have a legal right to use as much as I wish, however I wish.

So, You Are Wrong. Makes little what your "opinion" on it is, you're wrong.
 
I find this statement grossly underestimated:



Sitting and watching a few YouTube videos everyday will push you way over that.

True, but most people probably wouldn't use tethering for watching Youtube videos. It's relatively slow and expensive; so I'd guess most would either wait and use the Wifi at home/office/cafe for free (or just watch it on their phone.)

Tether likely believe people mostly want tethering for occasional email & web browsing when out of Wifi networks, and they're probably right.
 
Yeah, not sure what the refund policy is as I have never tried to get my money back, but Apple should give a refund people who want one. Then just remove the app from their account. There's no way to update the app, so what's the point.
See, this I agree with. If Apple, in my opinion, is truly wrong for anything here, it's allowing it for a price when they knew from the beginning that once the carriers spoke up, they'd pull it. There. Now I agree that Apple f-ed up. :p
 
"It is very anti-competitive to not allow any Tethering application to enter into this space to innovate."

Read as: We're talking to our lawyers right now.
 
A conspiracy theorist would come up with a scenario where Apple was very helpful to Tether in the development of this app knowing full well that the carriers would complain about the loss of the ability to charge for tethering and Apple would thus be required to pull the App.

Apple gets to generate a lot of complaints about an industry practice it doesn't like (data is data)
Tether gets to make a half million before it is pulled.
Carriers once again the bad guys

As an aside, in Oz some carriers initially tried charging for tethering, but others didn't. In the end it is mostly just included in the data allowance. So I doubt too many Aussies bothered with, or had a need for this app. US carriers really suck.
 
Anyone have a good mirror?

I managed to grab the app but can't get the .dmg to fully download before my connection is severed.

I'm looking for tether-iphone.dmg file mirror.
 
sure it burdens the carrier network - that's what its designed to do. To dispose of the way the carriers can detect and charge for this sort of usage.

As for their stats, on a certain network in the UK I know that people that tether use an insane amount of data. iPhone users by themselves use over a gig a month on average on the mobile network, and when they tether they use significantly more.

And...? It's the smartphone era. Data is going to be used and as things get larger and more complicated in terms of hardware, software, and net capability, the data requirements are going to increase. Carriers have to keep up with demand, not try to minimize it by putting in limitations.
 
It's been known that Apple does NOT accept tethering apps... even ones that got approved got pulled.

Apple's TOS for developers clearly states that they can pull an app at ANY time for ANY reason. This company signed up to that deal. Not only that, but the App Store is like any other store... you can be asked to leave the store for ANY reason at ANY time. It's private property.

Apple probably has a TOS deal itself with the carries to NOT allow tethering-type apps.

The only reason it was so popular is because there was no competition on the store for it. If Apple would have allowed any tether app, this company would have not sold nearly as many copies or made and headlines.

This company took a risky chance and lost. I don't feel bad for them. They should just take their products to other platforms and see how they do.

Business.

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