Tetraprism Telephoto Lens to be Available on Both iPhone 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max

[Flowstates]

Really, what part?

Oh, where do I begin? First, hats off for name-dropping Ansel Adams, but let's make sure we get his name right – it's Ansel Adams, not "Ansel Adam’s." Apostrophes, they're tricky little devils, aren't they? Always popping up where they're not needed. And, while we're at it, let's address the elephant in the room: if you're going to critique someone's insight by saying it's unrelated to Adams' work, it might help to actually understand what Adams was all about. You know, just a tiny, insignificant detail.

Now, onto your tantalizing invitation to see their work. "Release a narrative in our minds"? What are we, mind-readers? If you're intrigued, maybe dial down the drama just a notch. You're asking to see their work, not unlocking the mysteries of the universe. But hey, what do I know? I'm just someone who appreciates the correct use of apostrophes and a little bit of relevance in a discussion. Keep up the good work, detective!

 

[citysnaps]

Nah, it’s just funny to see you ripping off Ansel Adam’s quotes/phrases as your own on this forum. Fake it until you make it CitySnaps.

Nope, not AA quotes/phrases. Just the truth.


"Fake it until you make it CitySnaps."

Just more snark... Why?

Perhaps you have some photographs to share here?

Regarding releasing narrative... convince me you would really like to know what that's about and I'd be glad to explain.

I'll start the ball rolling on that. Do you like looking at photographs? If so, why?

 

[TheRoxyTheatre]

Oh, where do I begin? First, hats off for name-dropping Ansel Adams, but let's make sure we get his name right – it's Ansel Adams, not "Ansel Adam’s." Apostrophes, they're tricky little devils, aren't they? Always popping up where they're not needed. And, while we're at it, let's address the elephant in the room: if you're going to critique someone's insight by saying it's unrelated to Adams' work, it might help to actually understand what Adams was all about. You know, just a tiny, insignificant detail.

Now, onto your tantalizing invitation to see their work. "Release a narrative in our minds"? What are we, mind-readers? If you're intrigued, maybe dial down the drama just a notch. You're asking to see their work, not unlocking the mysteries of the universe. But hey, what do I know? I'm just someone who appreciates the correct use of apostrophes and a little bit of relevance in a discussion. Keep up the good work, detective!

Oh no!? A grammatical error? I’m sorry autocorrect got it wrong, I missed it, and you were offended. I feel terrible.

 

[citysnaps]

Oh no!? A grammatical error? I’m sorry autocorrect got it wrong, I missed it, and you were offended. I feel terrible.

Funny how that offends you but not CitySnaps plagiarism of Ansel Adams. Or if I’m being kind, his paraphrasing of Adams on this forum without giving proper credit to him.

And since you may need a lesson on what that is, paraphrasing is a common writing technique that becomes plagiarism if it's done without proper citation or if the structure and expression of the original work are closely replicated (i.e. most CitySnaps posts).

Like I said, fake it until you make it.

Are you serious? Perhaps you can post a link to an AA article where he talks about photographs releasing narrative. Do you even know what that means? That is hardly unique to AA.

Photography and paintings pre-date AA. Stimulating a viewer's imagination, and with the goal of telling a story and releasing narrative(s), goes way back, before photography existed. It's about connecting with viewers, which goes waaaaay back in time to the Lascaux cave paintings created 10,000+ years ago.

If you're really curious, that concept is taught in Art History college courses. Have you taken any Art History classes?

Once more... where are your photos?

 

[TheRoxyTheatre]

Are you serious? Perhaps you can post a link to an AA article where he talks about photographs releasing narrative. Do you even know what that means? That is hardly unique to AA.

Photography and paintings pre-date AA. Stimulating a viewer's imagination, and with the goal of releasing narrative(s), goes way back, before photography existed. It's about connecting with viewers.

So where are your photos?

It’s comical at this point CitySnaps.

 

[citysnaps]

It’s comical at this point CitySnaps. Go back to your old posts and report back. Plagiarism 101.

Apparently you're not comprehending what I said.

The concept of "releasing narrative" to stimulate a viewer's imagination was not "invented" by Ansel Adams. It goes back thousands of years.

What's comical is your belief that's an Ansel Adams "invention." And that any photographer that makes photographs with that goal in mind is plagiarizing Ansel Adams.


"Go back to your old posts and report back"

What posts are those and what kind of report are you looking for?

Your photos?

 

[Flowstates]

Oh no!? A grammatical error? I’m sorry autocorrect got it wrong, I missed it, and you were offended. I feel terrible.

Funny how that offends you but not CitySnaps plagiarism of Ansel Adams. Or if I’m being kind, his paraphrasing of Adams on this forum without giving proper credit to him.

And since you may need a lesson on what that is, paraphrasing is a common writing technique that becomes plagiarism if it's done without proper citation or if the structure and expression of the original work are closely replicated (i.e. most CitySnaps posts).

Like I said, fake it until you make it.

ChatGPT did the writeup , let's all simmer down k ?

This is about the tetraprism in the 16 pro ... That, the screen size and the on-device Ai compute it ... Looks like the update to the 13 mini i've been waiting for.

I'm more interested in HCB's work personally, although this whole fuss has given me the opportunity to revisit some of Adams's work capturing Americana, t'was neat.

 

[Flash1420]

Its certainly nice to have, but Apple not everyone is a photographer and not everyone cares about photos quality as long as they look decent. Please make those cameras smaller and fit a bigger battery inside. Some people including myself care more about battery life and other features than just cameras alone. It seems that the main selling point of the last few iPhone generations was about cameras.

 

[citysnaps]

I'm more interested in HCB's work personally, although this whole fuss has given me the opportunity to revisit some of Adams's work capturing Americana, t'was neat.

I love HCB's work...

Capturing Americana... Are you familiar with Robert Frank's work? The Americans comes to mind. Being a Swiss citizen he captured a side of America not seen/documented by others.

Also Richard Avedon put a collection of photos together called In the American West, a nice "road trip" across America between 1979 and 1984, hitting up strangers of all sorts for portraits along the way. It's an amazing body of work (and a huge influence for me and my photography of strangers I meet on the street).

The above two books are my favorite.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Don’t want a bigger phone… please, for the love of Jobs, make an iPhone Pro mini.

They did a mini. It flopped. I doubt making it a pro would make it more popular. Like it or not the Pro Max is the most popular iPhone model, so Apple will keep making them big.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I would say 90% of what makes a compelling photograph comes from the photographer and his/her ability to see, compose, evaluate the quality of light, recognize gesture, the potential of releasing narrative in a viewer's mind, and on and on.

It doesn’t matter if the photographer is good if the camera has a chip in it that over processes the sensor output. That is what the member was saying, and I agree. Apple currently applies WAY too much post processing. Switching to RAW helps, but the file sizes will turn off most casual photographers. There have been many useful advances in computational photography, but it can be taken too far.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Its certainly nice to have, but Apple not everyone is a photographer and not everyone cares about photos quality as long as they look decent. Please make those cameras smaller and fit a bigger battery inside. Some people including myself care more about battery life and other features than just cameras alone. It seems that the main selling point of the last few iPhone generations was about cameras.

Right. At some point you have to ask yourself how serious you are about photography as a craft. If you’re really serious about it you’ll get, at the very least, a dedicated fixed focus camera like the Fuji X100v or delve into the world of mirrorless and DSLRs. Because no matter how much post processing and no matter how tricky a lens they put into an iPhone it will never be able to make better images than a dedicated camera, most of which have computational photography features now as well.

 

[citysnaps]

It doesn’t matter if the photographer is good if the camera has a chip in it that over processes the sensor output. That is what the member was saying, and I agree. Apple currently apples WAY too much post processing. Switching to RAW helps, but the file sizes will turn off most casual photographers. There have been many useful advances in computational photography, but it can be taken too far.

And that's why serious photographers always shoot in RAW.

If one insists on making JPEGs (not a good idea), a touch of negative Clarity will often help a lot.

 

[citysnaps]

At some point you have to ask yourself how serious you are about photography as a craft. If you’re really serious about it you’ll get, at the very least, a dedicated fixed focus camera like the Fuji X100v or delve into that world of mirrorless and DSLRs.

That's funny. I have a drawer full of dSLRs, and mirrorless cams. And an Arca-Swiss 4x5.

Yet since around the time of iPhone X I've pretty much made photos only with iPhones.

Guess I'm not very serious.

Are you a serious photographer?

 

[akbarali.ch]

Tetra Prism, that's fancy and sounds cool.

 

[TheRoxyTheatre]

It doesn’t matter if the photographer is good if the camera has a chip in it that over processes the sensor output. That is what the member was saying, and I agree. Apple currently apples WAY too much post processing. Switching to RAW helps, but the file sizes will turn off most casual photographers. There have been many useful advances in computational photography, but it can be taken too far.

I agree. I could be wrong, but doesn’t Apple still apply some computational photography enhancements to their raw format?

 

[B4U]

Really want the phones to stop getting bigger. I consider the iPhone X to really be the ideal size for a one handed phone. If the phones are gonna get bigger, I wish they’d stop getting taller and start getting wider to make landscape mode functional again.

I am on the opposite side of the spectrum and hope they make it taller without making it wider.
Main reason is that I can barely touch the whole width of the phone with my thumb using one hand.
I also happen to have a Sony Xperia 1 V which has a strange aspect ratio of 21:9. But, I can have 2 apps running side by side in landscape. That might be able to address your concern.

 

[svish]

Expecting camera specifications to be same for both Pro and Pro Max models from next year onwards.

 

[dare100em]

The physical size does not change, the bezels will just get smaller.

This is not true. It will stay nearly constant in width but expand significantly in height (5 mm from about 160 mm to 165 mm). That is also the reason the screen area will only marginally increase no matter the 6,9'' talk. It's not an iPad with a 4:3 screen, it is a extrem slender screen with a ratio nearing 20:9.

 

[Kevin2055]

Recently, MacRumors has received information indicating that Apple intends to implement the tetraprism telephoto lens on both iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max in 2024.

Our findings align with claims made by Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo back in September, which were recently reiterated. The Elec also published a report earlier this month which makes the same claim about tetraprism availability, albeit with more details.

The iPhone 15 Pro Max features a tetraprism telephoto camera. The folded glass structure within it uses a tetraprism design which repeatedly reflects light, allowing for up to 5x optical zoom, up from 3x on the iPhone 14 Pro Max.

This year, the iPhone 15 Pro was released without the new-and-improved tetraprism telephoto camera, likely due to spatial constraints. The components necessary for the tetraprism camera occupy significantly more space than the telephoto camera currently found on the iPhone 15 Pro, and consequently would not fit in the smaller 6.1” device.

With the iPhone 16 Pro, Apple intends to increase the overall size of the devices, with the displays of the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max measuring roughly 6.3" and 6.9", respectively. The increased device sizes would provide ample room for the new tetraprism telephoto camera, and internal documentation seen by MacRumors corroborates this change.

Internal documentation detailing the camera module design for the iPhone 16 Pro reveals that the module bears significant resemblance to the module used in the iPhone 15 Pro Max. At a glance, the area containing the tetraprism components can be easily identified.

It is important to consider that the information provided here constitutes pre-production information and may not reflect the hardware found on final mass production units. The iPhone 16 Pro is still many months away and changes are always possible.

For more details on what to expect, check out our rumor roundup page for the iPhone 16 Pro.

Article Link: Tetraprism Telephoto Lens to be Available on Both iPhone 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max

It means 16 pro will lose the optical 3X(78mm) zoom and only have 130mm. It may not be a good range for most scenarios.

 

[dampfnudel]

It means 16 pro will lose the optical 3X(78mm) zoom and only have 130mm. It may not be a good range for most scenarios.

Unless Apple can find a way to keep the 3x zoom which I think is often more useful than 5x.

 

[toobravetosave]

I am the only one who’s been satisfied with mobile phone pictures for years now?

Do people *really* care about this stuff or is just pure masturbation to have the biggest craziest numbers and hardware things

 

[Greenmeenie]

The 16 Pro Max is rumored to get a better wide-angle camera and a super telephoto periscope camera. I would expect Apple to continue keeping some camera features exclusive to the Pro Max.

I doubt Apple would give a better ultra wide camera to the pro max only. It may get the periscope tele only tho since that is more of physical space issue. Guess we’ll find out in 9 months

 

[Pattaya]

That's funny. I have a drawer full of dSLRs, and mirrorless cams. And an Arca-Swiss 4x5.

Yet since around the time of iPhone X I've pretty much made photos only with iPhones.

Guess I'm not very serious.

Are you a serious photographer?

I wanted to capture a sunset photo from Bamboo Beach in Naklua , Thailand. At the same time these tourists were coming up on the beach, so I thought why not, iPhone 13 Pro did its job, I found those tourists and they were so grateful and surprised, air dropped to them as they were iPhone users too, lucky shot, maybe but you could have the best equipment in the world and still take lousy photographs, and a good photographer can take a good photograph with the most basic camera, you have either got it, or you haven't. I agree with CitySnaps.

 

[cubeover]

I would not mind a 9:16 form factor, all those narrow and tall phones make so little sense and so long in the tooth. By year 2030 we shall not need selfie sticks because phone will be same size as the baguettes... and rollable, like les roulettes... forget your single-crease foldables! Look at how much height is lost and not really used... I'd like 1440p width and 2560 height, there's no need for any more pixels. And 5.5 inch diagonal please, for the smaller model. You can make the large one 7.5 all you care Apple.
This, plus make the small model flicker-free like at least like Moto Razr if not IGZO nextgen...
Tall flickering slabs discourage me from getting an iPhone again.
When screen is proper, I will get one. Now the only choice is SE which is ehrmm... sorry so 2013.
Two more things that are worse than competition are sound codecs (no AptX no LDAC) and color capture inaccuracies (43 deltas avg, really Apple?) it lives in its own "invented" color space which I can actually always see by looking at iPhone-captured photos and YouTubes/videocalls. It's a new age Lomo... which I don't like as I come from color slide film wonderland era.
I so want an iPhone, but there's almost nothing from the multimedia side of things that I like about iPhones.
Very, super happy with Apple TV which has got great codecs over HDMI for both dolby sound and video (to see what I mean, make sure to set to RGB High, not the default YCbCr crap. In my case it is worth to drop from 4K to 1080 and let the BRAVIA to upscale, than to lose the full color that is available in RGB High mode).