Where I work, if you plug a non-registered computer to an ethernet plug, that plug is instantly deactivated at the switch.
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Thank you Apple: No more FW, Ethernet, and Optical
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Where I work, if you plug a non-registered computer to an ethernet plug, that plug is instantly deactivated at the switch.
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Yes it is a small company...
How the hell is Firewire at all useful now that we have USB 3 (5 Gbps) and Thunderbolt (10 Gbps)? It's only useful if you already own Firewire accessories, but no one in the right mind would be choosing to build new accessories using the Firewire port instead of USB 3/Thunderbolt today. It's just legacy.
That is fairly small in the grand scheme of things. I do find it hard to believe though that even a company of that size would have an unsecured local network with no domain authentication and you can simply plug in and connect to their network and be on the Internet, unless they were special ports assigned to visitors specifically with no access to the local network at all.
So I guess they do itt by some type of HW mac filter, which u can easily do over wireless as well. This will not make an iota of diff in the deployment on that nextwork, just that the IT dpt will need to update their procedures to modern levels instead of beong stuck in 1988.
have you for got that some older building and even newer ones wireless cant go through the walls all that well ethernet is still good and you know what made the old macbook pros heavy it was not the optical and the legacy ports its the aluminum housing and the batteries thats what makes the heavy
I've never been in an office that requires AD authentication for a wired connection.
Granted I've never tried in an IBM, AT&T or HP office but plenty of large organizations don't protect the wired connections like they do wireless. Companies that have regulatory compliance requirements might just to keep employees from bringing in rouge assets.
Much of the wired world is still pretty wide open.
Cheers,
Exactly. And that's on top of the security and the crippling speed of wireless networks too. Speed is my biggest problem.
I like red cars, so my favorite manufacturer must only build red cars!
As someone who constantly needs an RS232 serial port (I'm a cisco network admin), you don't see me bitching (anymore, lol) about my machine(s) not having one.
Time moves on. The MBP-R is a specialist device, valuing portability with a kick-ass screen over everything else.
If all those ports were included, you'd have something like... the non-retina model.
Without the spare internal space for a battery big enough to drive the retina screen.
Which is... what we still have.
Just means possible lost sales, these things I personally would want are not out there, just basic functions I require from a laptop.
I wasn't asking to have all of those things built into the laptop. Read my post again.
Quite honestly, the MBP's good connectivity (I use Ethernet more than I'd like to admit and it would be nice not to carry an adapter), specs/$$$ and the ability to easily upgrade the RAM and bump up the SSD is what's currently causing me to debate.
I'm just not going to claim Apple abandoned me because it's not also skinny with a high rez screen. Just like when I order a meatball sub, I don't complain that the guy took away by grilled chicken breast and cheddar cheese.
They're supplied with the device if you supply the money.
You think that massive ultra high res screen is free?
Current WiFi generation (802.11n) has 450Mbps bandwidth.
Just two time worse, but a lot more portable!
802.11g, that you are referring to, is already a part of history.
I still don't get the reason for people complaining about the Ethernet adapter.
How can something 4 inches long weighing less than a pocket of change be unacceptable?
Do not carry anything else with you other than the RMBP?
Charger?
Ethernet is a static connection (you always know that you will need a cable at that point to connect).
I would much prefer to have the slimmer profile for the sake of having an adapter.
How can something 4 inches long weighing less than a pocket of change be unacceptable?
Do not carry anything else with you other than the RMBP?
Charger?
Ethernet is a static connection (you always know that you will need a cable at that point to connect).
I would much prefer to have the slimmer profile for the sake of having an adapter.
my point is those ports dont weigh more than a couple of ounces at best. if you want to complain about weight its the aluminum that makes it heavy and i prefer a thicker laptop as i think that eventually thinner is not always better as lint and dust can build up and the laptop fries quicker were as the thicker ones have a little bit more time if you never do cleaning maintenance on them
Don't know if anyone has said it yet but I think its time you upgraded your WiFi Router...
I have never used the Ethernet port on my MacBook is it cool? Looks to see if he can find it..
there is a difference between authenticating to network shares/primnters and simply being able to access the internet.
With the exception of biopharma and banks, most companies I have worked for, yes you can simply walk in, plug in a laptop (on a hot port of course) and be able to open your email, browse the web etc.
However you will still need to authenticate whether you access the network wirelessly or wired. That is how corporate networks work.
As far as the silly poster that said ethernet dates back to the mainframe era. He simply wasn;t around back then. We didnt have ethernet, we had coaxial thicknet and 10baset or proprietary ring topology connectors like IBM used. Ethernet on an RJ45 connector pushing gigabit didnt really come about until the mid 90's or so.
Well ethernet is from the 80s and there were mainframes in the 80s (there are even some now...).
I personally never worked on a mainframe but my first computer for my first 'real' job in the 90s had token ring. We were a mixed token ring/ethernet environment until early 2000.
I personally never worked on a mainframe but my first computer for my first 'real' job in the 90s had token ring. We were a mixed token ring/ethernet environment until early 2000.
Of course there is, but maybe your definition of most companies is different to mine, yet every company I have consulted to (ranging from investment banks to utility companies to telecommunication companies to electronic giants that aren't doing so well these days) have proxy servers as well that require AD authentication so you cannot just connect to the internet.
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I am not sure what your point is. Do you think that the data centre that hosts this forum uses wireless perhaps? There are even some mainframes now? The whole damn world is running on mainframes from our telecomms to the entire banking infrastructure to your traffic management systems.
Well most of the companies I have consulted for only run ipsec or proxies (internally?) if they have significant IP they are trying to protect. You would laugh at some of the measures they take to ensure the IP is protected!
One biopharm had thin clients for all the contractor workstations. Which meant that they CRAWLED when everyone was working. Not very productive! Another had 3 complete networks, Dev, Prod and...everything else. They used ipsec and sticky ports so only Ranjit could plug in Ranjit's computer in Ranjit's cube, and Norm in Norm's cube. Man that made moving people around a PAIN.
The funny part of that arrangement was that visitors and contactors were on the same vlan and subnet as the administration. If they were hackerish at all they could be all up in the payroll and budget.
No names, lets just say they were on the SF peninsula
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This simply isn't true; thunderbolt's not yet common enough to be a good choice for a lot of stuff, and no version of USB has the desireable traits that make firewire so popular for music.
The high-end audio interfaces and mixers and such are still firewire, and may be for a while yet. So for a while yet, I expect to continue seeing firewire ports on audio hardware, and to continue preferring firewire to USB or thunderbolt for many tasks -- including disks. I guess I could use thunderbolt disks, but I can't get them as conveniently as I can get firewire disks, and USB is not really all that good at doing media. I mean, yeah, it's fine for a DVD drive that only has to be able to play movies at 1x or something. If I were doing an external boot disk, though? Firewire.
You seem to be under the deeply mistaken impression that the listed raw speed of an interface is the only meaningful spec. USB2 was nominally "480" Mbps, FireWire only 400... But have you ever compared benchmarks for a FireWire 400 disk and a USB2 disk? USB sucks for serious use. Yeah, USB3's faster, but it still has the same underlying design choices that made USB a pain.
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Sure! Lemme know where I can get a wifi router that can handle 5 simultaneous gigabit connections. (Hint: There's no such thing, you can't even get one gigabit connection off the very fastest modern consumer-available wireless.)
Fact is, my house is not a single small room containing no RF sources or metal, and wireless is fine for casual use, but ultimately I still need wired if I want decent performance, and there are no wireless routers that could change that. They're not fast enough, they don't scale well enough to many simultaneous active users, and they don't have the stability and performance at the edge of their range.
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Pretty much! Only it'd come in a version with a screen with at least 1080 pixel vertical resolution so it could actually be used with high definition video.
Hardball= Apple Fanboy poster child.
Apple could have rolled out a 2012 MBPRO made of wood and he would
still laud it's ingeniousness. Lol
Apple could have rolled out a 2012 MBPRO made of wood and he would
still laud it's ingeniousness. Lol