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Blueray is already obsolete. Invest in faster broadband and stream your media. It's the future! :D

If you need more data space, invest in a 1000 gig drive.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. That kind of bandwidth is not available to consumers and Blu-Ray hasn't been rendered obsolete. 1TB drives are not commonly available for laptops. Therefore, you are either an idiot or a troll.
 
For those people there is the external drive. It is a portable machine after all. So yeah: Pro = more features. But features you would benefit from in your daily usage. Like better battery life, more space for bigger/additional hdd/flash drives, more space for more usb/fw/lightpeak/whatever ports.
This can only be accomplished by additional space. And as you know apple: they won't increase the size of their products.
Why should you use optical discs if you have a big hdd/flash drive anyway? HDD size is cheap and so are flashdrives/usb sticks/external drives. There is no reason to use DVDs. And don't tell me you take your whole CD/DVD collection everywhere you go. You know: You could, if you would use an external HDD. And as a "pro" user it is very likely you own one or several external drives (for time machine).

Optical drives are dead. It is maybe not your reality now but it will be soon. When I started to study at my university 5 years ago there were CDs and DVDs everywhere. Now you don't see anyone with those. Ever. Everybody uses USB sticks or drives (or their own MacBooks).

Maybe it won't happen the next release, but it will happen soon. And a year later no one will miss their internal superdrive.

This is an exellent analysis. Yes, people will complain at first, but the DVD drives will not be missed for long.

Apple will make some bucks selling external drives for those who need it, increase sales on the Mac app store platform, and make thinner and lighter machines. It's completely logical.
 
Blu-ray has a capacity of 50 GB. DVD is 8 GB btw, for dual layers.

And the problem with flash memory on USB sticks is how to duplicate it. Mass pressing a CD/DVD takes less than a second per unit and costs pennies.

Who would mass press DVDs or CDs, that 1) only use a laptop, and 2) has to do this while moving around (i.e. can't use the external drive)?

It's a stupid scenario that just proves how niche the optical drives are becoming.
 
Sony has developed the successor of Blue Ray that can store 1TB :eek: I don't think optical media is going anywhere

PS if Apple moved to SSD stick and ditched the ODD then the MBPs could have more powerful CPUs and GPUs while maintaining good battery life
 
I think I'd be fine with them dropping the optical drive (assuming that you could still get a reasonably priced external one with it), but the idea of going to SSD scares me, at least if that's the only option. An SSD + HDD combo machine would make me very happy though. What I'm not seeing is how Apple would offer such a machine and keep the same price points. Last summer I bought a 13" MBP and it was perfectly in my budget, and it suits my needs quite perfectly. Something tells me that this proposal is either going to sacrifice available storage or price.
 
Who would mass press DVDs or CDs, that 1) only use a laptop, and 2) has to do this while moving around (i.e. can't use the external drive)?

It's a stupid scenario that just proves how niche the optical drives are becoming.
wat?

No, seriously now, what are you replying to there? I'm pretty sure he's talking about software publishers having an easier time mass producing optical discs as a means of distribution, as opposed to the possibility of using flash drives instead. And, therefore, that it is preferable for software developers that their target markets have ready access to optical drives as opposed to being limited to USB drives exclusively.
 
This is an exellent analysis. Yes, people will complain at first, but the DVD drives will not be missed for long.

Apple will make some bucks selling external drives for those who need it, increase sales on the Mac app store platform, and make thinner and lighter machines. It's completely logical.

You neglect the apps that are still sold on DVDs. You can't quickly and easily download a 3GB app or even a 7GB app for that matter. For those purposes, the Mac App Store isn't the ideal solution.

As for thinner and lighter machines being logical, they are if you really need it, but for those people, there's the MacBook Air. I don't know why we need the MacBook Pro to be that thin and light. Or are we all obsessed with thinness like Steve Jobs is?
 
For those people there is the external drive. It is a portable machine after all. So yeah: Pro = more features. But features you would benefit from in your daily usage. Like better battery life, more space for bigger/additional hdd/flash drives, more space for more usb/fw/lightpeak/whatever ports.
This can only be accomplished by additional space. And as you know apple: they won't increase the size of their products.
Why should you use optical discs if you have a big hdd/flash drive anyway? HDD size is cheap and so are flashdrives/usb sticks/external drives. There is no reason to use DVDs. And don't tell me you take your whole CD/DVD collection everywhere you go. You know: You could, if you would use an external HDD. And as a "pro" user it is very likely you own one or several external drives (for time machine).

Optical drives are dead. It is maybe not your reality now but it will be soon. When I started to study at my university 5 years ago there were CDs and DVDs everywhere. Now you don't see anyone with those. Ever. Everybody uses USB sticks or drives (or their own MacBooks).

Maybe it won't happen the next release, but it will happen soon. And a year later no one will miss their internal superdrive.

Optical drives are only truly dead to those of you still high on last month's MacBook Air announcement. If you want a computer sans an optical drive, go get one. Sure, the damn thing isn't used every day by everyone, but then again, so are a lot of other features (like the IR sensor and the FireWire 800 port), but I guarantee you it is used enough to the point where it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Sony has developed the successor of Blue Ray that can store 1TB :eek: I don't think optical media is going anywhere

PS if Apple moved to SSD stick and ditched the ODD then the MBPs could have more powerful CPUs and GPUs while maintaining good battery life

The SSD stick could be implemented with no sacrifice whatsoever. The loss of the ODD couldn't get you a better CPU without making the damn thing thicker ANYWAY. It could get you a better GPU on the 13" model, but at that point, why aren't you just buying the 15" model instead? Also, you know Apple wouldn't implement those; they'd instead tote how thin the damn thing was.
 
Sony has developed the successor of Blue Ray that can store 1TB :eek: I don't think optical media is going anywhere

PS if Apple moved to SSD stick and ditched the ODD then the MBPs could have more powerful CPUs and GPUs while maintaining good battery life
So what - a 2.5" hard drive can do the same. And if anyone has that much data to transfer I'm certain that the HDD will be preferred as more reliable. Besides, there is this funny strange stuff called ethernet, wifi and could storage.

Blu Ray 2 or whatever is not going to be of any use for data transfer by consumers.
 
more antenna testing

The HP Cupertino site includes a building that's mostly a big anechoic chamber suitable for some RF/antenna testing, so now Apple will have one more nearby place to design weird antennas with seemingly strange characteristics.

The site also includes a small barn. Wonder what Apple will do with that...
 
This all seems very flaky, but if that price is right (see what I did there) then it's likely that Apple would axe the white MacBook and 13" MBP. Hell, maybe even the 15" MBP, and the 17" would be it.
 
As does your credit rating.

No, that doesn't *hurt* your rating. It may not be the best builder of credit, but it certainly doesn't bring your rating down (using too much percentage of credit given to you, not paying on time, bankruptcy, too many credit cards, that kind of stuff actually hurts your rating).
 
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Some site did a price check of all these specs and found it would cost more than 2k. It is partially just speculation
 
that's good that apple is expanding i think. also, i really hope the iPad 2 launches in Jan.

it looks like i missed some good sales in the app store though
 
Macbook pros with 2 internal HDDs instead of an optical drive sounds great. Hopefully the OS will receive an update that makes organizing boot drives and storage drives even easier/automated.

60GB SSD default boot drive + 500GB storage HDD? Yes please.
 
Macbook pros with 2 internal HDDs instead of an optical drive sounds great. Hopefully the OS will receive an update that makes organizing boot drives and storage drives even easier/automated.

60GB SSD default boot drive + 500GB storage HDD? Yes please.

They can do that without removing the optical drive if they implement the SSD used on the MacBook Air.
 
The 13" MBP should be at least a pound lighter than it is now. Maybe using carbon and removing the optical drive will be necessary to achieve that. Then again, you have the SONY VAIO Z.

Anyway, someday we'll miss the optical drive as much as we miss the diskette drive today.
 
The 13" MBP should be at least a pound lighter than it is now. Maybe using carbon and removing the optical drive will be necessary to achieve that. Then again, you have the SONY VAIO Z.

I used to wish that my 13" Pre-Unibody MacBook were as light as a MacBook Air, and then I realized that for what it is, it's a wonder it's even as light as it is given what it is, and frankly, it's plenty light. I feel even more that way about the 13" MacBook Pro. The only thing that needs to change about the 13" Pro is that NVIDIA and Intel need to stop fighting and there should be a Core i3 or i5 in there alongside the 320M IGP/Chipset. And don't kid yourself, space isn't keeping us from that at all; it's NVIDIA's and Intel's dispute over NVIDIA being able to make a chipset for the Core iSeries.

Anyway, someday we'll miss the optical drive as much as we miss the diskette drive today.

If Apple permanently foregoes Blu-Ray, then absolutely. Otherwise, no.
 
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