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The 17" MacBook Pro is truly bittersweet.
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My first Mac was a 17"; looks great on paper, but after a year of use I didn't want the large size anymore. Now I'm quite satisfied with my HR-AG 15" model. Sure I'd love an ExpressCard slot, but maybe that will be in the next revision which will be an excuse to upgrade?
I would say yes. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone complain about the shade of the Apple logo. This has really taken OCD to the next level.
. OP, the Apple logo isn't for you to see (I hope you've realized that since you can't see it when using the computer), it's for Apple to advertise their Macbooks, just like Dell, Sony and HP put their logos on the lid. Sorry to come across as harsh, but are you for real about this???>Go to Spotlight and search "MIDI". Open Audio MIDI Setup. Select the speaker, change the drop down on the right from 16bit to 32bit.
Thanks - that's a nice upgrade. My MBP 17" defaulted to 24bit, so I nudged it to 32bit. I wonder why 32bit isn't the default (or why anyone would want to use a lower setting).
>You can also amplify the left or the right from here - but it doesn't do much on the left channel.
That does the same thing as adjusting the Balance in the Sound System Preferences (as you can see when both are open simultaneously). For me, lowering the left channel amplification (by adjusting the balance to 60% right) made all the difference, removing a tinny edge that was hurting my left ear.
Thanks - that's a nice upgrade. My MBP 17" defaulted to 24bit, so I nudged it to 32bit. I wonder why 32bit isn't the default (or why anyone would want to use a lower setting).
>You can also amplify the left or the right from here - but it doesn't do much on the left channel.
That does the same thing as adjusting the Balance in the Sound System Preferences (as you can see when both are open simultaneously). For me, lowering the left channel amplification (by adjusting the balance to 60% right) made all the difference, removing a tinny edge that was hurting my left ear.
I would say yes. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone complain about the shade of the Apple logo. This has really taken OCD to the next level.
As I said, it's a nitpick. We're talking about a $2500 (after tax) machine here. Everything better darn well be flawless; I don't accept anything less and nor should I. I have the right to nitpick things all I care to at that price.
Anyway I checked some others at the Apple Store and it seems they're not using consistent whites on the Apple logos. Some are definitely offwhite, some are nice and vibrant white, so I'm not seeing things - this one is just duller. And I did verify the expected behavior of the light is to go brighter and dimmer with the screen brightness.
To those that say "but you never notice!" Trust me, I do. When I get up and walk to the door, I see it. When I go to the restroom without it, I see it. When I get ready to close it to take to work, I notice it. It's quite possibly the most attractive thing on the entire MacBook.
I'm curious to know the difference between 24 and 32 bit now. I tried searching google but didn't find anything. I played around with the settings from 16-32 bit but didn't really notice a difference in sound with a 15" MBP 2010.
Yes, agreed. You absolutely have the right to nitpick about anything whether it has a flaw or not but you need to understand something, you posted that nitpick here so we (the forum) have the right to respond whether we agree with you or not. It's nothing personal, we're talking about what you perceive as a flaw, no need for you to be defensive.
I would say yes. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone complain about the shade of the Apple logo. This has really taken OCD to the next level.
What about those sitting in front of a mirror, so they can be validated by the sight of themselves using an MPB, then being traumatized when they see the slight tinge of yellow in their Apple logo?
My 15" early 2009 mbp unibody can only go as high as 24bit. Anyone know why my 32bit option isn't there?
Yes, agreed. You absolutely have the right to nitpick about anything whether it has a flaw or not but you need to understand something, you posted that nitpick here so we (the forum) have the right to respond whether we agree with you or not. It's nothing personal, we're talking about what you perceive as a flaw, no need for you to be defensive.
I would think that others would simply agree with the sentiment that one retains the right to expect shy-of-perfection from such an expensive device. Therefore, I would not expect to hear calls of OCD, despite whether I may or may not have such. If this were a $799 Acer I wouldn't care. If a person owned four different MacBooks of varying models, all of them virtually consistent except for a trackpad that got louder and louder (Which makes no sense to me) and an Apple logo on one that is different from the other three (for no logical reason I can see), of course there's cause to question it.
Funny. Maybe the rest of you just think of the MacBook as a computer and don't care. Maybe that's why I see so many threads of people spilling all sorts of liquids on their multi-thousand dollar machines instead of taking proper care of them. I, on the other hand, use mine for work AND home usage. It's pampered because it has to be. I sit in awe of it, I admire it, I bow down to its elegance. I get irritated seeing the slightest flaw, perceived or verified. That's what people who respect their high-end electronics do.
Sure it is. The difference in portability between the 17 and 15 is marginal at best. The 13 is definitely more portable, but then you lose quite a bit of screen real estate. For school I would never recommend a 17, but for work, I can't imagine using anything else after having used all the rest.
This is one of the funniest posts I've ever seen, in any forum, anywhere. Thanks for the laugh.
I thought the 17 might be too big...it's not I love it!
i think 15 users would like the 17 if they tried it.
Not really though. When I had my 13" I felt it was sufficient...until I started doing more development work and realized I need more. I got the 15", the non-high res version, and honestly, it felt like I hadn't upgraded. Maybe the high res version is a different feeling, but I wanted to fit even more than that on-screen. Coming from the Gateway P7805u with a WUXGA screen, the 13 and even the high res 15 just feel inferior. I know they're both solid machines, but I guess I'm just destined to remain a WUXGA/17" kinda guy.
A shock is going from a 13" to a 17". It's night and day.
I got the 17" i5 and a wondering if I should have gotten the i7. Is there a big enough difference or am I ok with it? I'll be doing web and software development -- xcode, web editors, some photoshop, fireworks, illustrator, heavy web browsing, some video watching and music playing.
Others may disagree, but IMO the best upgrade you can give that machine is at least a 7200 RPM drive, at most a SSD. The i7 won't give you that much improvement over the i5 because it'd be held back by the drive speed, for those applications you specified. Upgrade the drive. My opinion. Even the 7200 would do you fine as an interim step - SSD if you've got the cash. Momentus XT might also be an option for you.
haha.
Get some real studio monitors than some crappy laptop speakers, like Adam's or Genelec's if you're on a budget.
You have to be kidding me you choose a 17 inch MBP because it has better speakers for audio work, which it doesn't. Both are crap speakers.
Do you not realize we are speaking about Macbooks? They're laptops, they're meant to be portable, therefore, a lot of times the laptop isn't going to be set up on the desk with speakers as such available. Of course it's a worthy consideration between 15" and 17", and yes, there is a HUGE difference in the quality. Not grade A by any means, but a hell of a lot better than the 15", it's a laptop, it's going to move around.
You can't do audio work on laptop speakers, forget it. It will do more harm then good.
And you want do it in a properly treated room btw, not just anywhere.
Better get some professional headphones if you don't intend to use it in a studio.