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I hope these updates re the To-Do list are coming to the iPod Touch as well. Right now you can't edit calendar items. The To-Do list in iCal is crappy, barely usable, but if I can update it in the iPod Touch it will be acceptable.

I've also had problems with iSync deleting calendar items from my Razr over bluetooth, usually items that are far in the future. I don't see a way to control that, and I don't like it. iCal has always been the weak link in the iSync world.

The SDK coming is very, very good news.
 
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Using your rational you would pretty much refuse to pay for MS Office Apps, Adobe Suite Apps, Quickbooks ... etc etc etc etc ... because Apple should've have included those things in OS X when they shipped the software?
 
Using your rational you would pretty much refuse to pay for MS Office Apps, Adobe Suite Apps, Quickbooks ... etc etc etc etc ... because Apple should've have included those things in OS X when they shipped the software?
Wow! You're pretty awesome at reading and comprehending!

But when you have a large for-pay development community on a niche product (before you even say it, computers running Windows or OS X are not niche products), the company pretty much stops development.
 
Wow! You're pretty awesome at reading and comprehending!

um wrong. I read what you wrote and understood the logic you're trying to imply which you so kindly highlighted in bold.

But that doesn't make the rest of what your trying to say make sense.


By your logic, if for example those apps (pretend) Quickbooks, Adobe Photoshop, MS Office etc were made available for iPhone you would refuse to pay for them because Apple should have included them for free.


I mean if you feel that way, that's cool but I really think your in the minority there.
 
um wrong. I read what you wrote and understood the logic you're trying to imply which you so kindly highlighted in bold.
If that were true, you wouldn't have written anything beyond this line.

But that doesn't make the rest of what your trying to say make sense.

By your logic, if for example those apps (pretend) Quickbooks, Adobe Photoshop, MS Office etc were made available for iPhone you would refuse to pay for them because Apple should have included them for free.
No. By that "logic" Apple should also give me a hammer when I need one, and pizza for lunch, and oil filters.

Core functionality (e.g., a uniform interface, the device being able to do what all other similar devices can do, etc.) is not the same as entirely new applications.

I mean if you feel that way, that's cool but I really think your in the minority there.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, to an extent.

One of the hilarious things about Mac Forums is that you have threads like this, where the OP could ask something insane like "Who Would Pay For Feces That Actually Came From Steve Jobs?" followed by a hundred "ME! ME! ME! I HAVE WAITED A VERY LONG TIME FOR THIS!". Then when the feces actually goes on sale, it's followed by twenty hate threads. "I was all set to buy the Steve feces, but I found out they're only giving you 6 ounces, when I was expecting 12. NO THANKS, STEVE! I predict Apple will be bankrupt by the end of the year if they keep depriving their customers of the feces they are legally entitled to. Everyone should sign my petition to get every early feces purchaser a free pound at www.petitiononline..."
 
Core functionality (e.g., a uniform interface, the device being able to do what all other similar devices can do, etc.) is not the same as entirely new applications.

Oh I get it now, You weren't being sarcastic in original post on page 1:

another guy $10 for an app that makes my iPhone display flip in Mail when I'm reading an HTML message

$8 so I can have my MMS notification set to one of my ringtones


I'm with you there brother! When Apple releases the Copy & Paste App for $5 which you seem to think they're going to do in February . I'm not going to buy it either.
 
Oh I get it now, You weren't being sarcastic in original post on page 1:
No, not at all. In my previous response, I was being sarcastic about "Would you buy..." threads in general, but it certainly wasn't directed at the OP.

I'm with you there brother! When Apple releases the Copy & Paste App for $5 which you seem to think they're going to do in February . I'm not going to buy it either.
That's still not quite what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is more along the lines of:
1) Apple releases the SDK in January.
2) Some guy makes a C&P app in February, and sells it for $5
3) Apple no longer feels any sort of pressure to add it to the OS, despite giveaway phones having this ability, so they don't, and point to how wonderful it is that you can buy this function from a developer for only $5.
 
No, not at all. In my previous response, I was being sarcastic about "Would you buy..." threads in general, but it certainly wasn't directed at the OP.

That's still not quite what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is more along the lines of:
1) Apple releases the SDK in January.
2) Some guy makes a C&P app in February, and sells it for $5
3) Apple no longer feels any sort of pressure to add it to the OS, despite giveaway phones having this ability, so they don't, and point to how wonderful it is that you can buy this function from a developer for only $5.

You are absolutely correct that this will happen and will be a problem.

The worst part is when we are paying for Safari plugins. It WILL be the end of new Apps from Apple.
 
No, not at all. In my previous response, I was being sarcastic about "Would you buy..." threads in general, but it certainly wasn't directed at the OP.

That's still not quite what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is more along the lines of:
1) Apple releases the SDK in January.
2) Some guy makes a C&P app in February, and sells it for $5
3) Apple no longer feels any sort of pressure to add it to the OS, despite giveaway phones having this ability, so they don't, and point to how wonderful it is that you can buy this function from a developer for only $5.

Did you consider that "giveaway" phones include that stuff because without it no one on earth would ever want to use or pay for the phone?

That is completely opposite the case with the iPhone where people buy it and use it despite the lack of some more common features...precisely because it is so very good at what is included.

I'd rather pay $5 for copy and paste than deal with some crappy throwaway phone's lack of ipod features or crappy web browser or email.

Ultimately, it's all about perspective.

Is the iPhone worth the price they charge you or not?

Is a hypothetical $5 for copy and paste worth the price or not?

In both cases you have the opportunity of not buying into the platform of the hypothetical $5 app if you'd prefer not to.

Whether or not Apple adds them to the OS is immaterial.

Maybe some people want a widget and some don't.

By offering a base OS with the ability to pick and choose what you like a la carte, you have precisely what you want at the price you are willing to pay, rather than an iPhone filled with bloatware.
 
iWork - It substitutes Office and MS will never develop a mobile Office for iPhone. They have enough trouble as it is developing Office for Mac OS X.


Quicken - With the next re-written version of Quicken, it would be great to have iPhone Quicken, considering Intuit's Chairman sits on the Board of Directors for Apple, not a stretch.

Other than that, I just don't see anything else useful. If you need an IM client that can log you into multiple IM accounts, I would use Meebo.

A Finder would be nice, a way to print to a network printer. It will all come in with time.
 
I'd like a good IM client, and to somehow get MMS use out of the thing.

The main thing I'd want, is to be able to add/remove icons from the homescreen. E.g. I'm not fussed about weather, or stocks - let me get rid of those and replace them with shortcuts to certain webapps/contacts/or other things!

Surely this makes sense!? Just like Dashboard, I want to be able to add/remove things to my liking, and not be stuck with what apple think we all 'need'!
 
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