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The market has gone mad. It seemed not that that long ago that £30 million bought you a world-class striker. Now it buys you Benteke. He has a good career strike rate. IF he can maintain that through a full season at Liverpool he becomes more palatable.

But Liverpool have spend a huge amount of money on players of the second or third rank in terms of quality. Unless they add up to something greater than the sum of their parts, it's a case of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear.



Pedro?

he has 50 goals in 100 games for Villa, nothing wrong with that.

secondly his price his market specific he is an internal transfer between 2 epl clubs so it doesnt matter that sanchez was a similar price the epl domestic TV deal has risen for the next 3 years from 3.1 billion to 5.8 billion every purchase is relative to this.

its like saying a brain surgeon in the USA gets 50x what an indian brain surgeon gets, is he 50x the surgeon?

Nope
 
Vidal off to Bayern for £25m i'd bet a mortgage that figure would've doubled if it was an EPL club buying. United were being quoted £37m-£40m last season IIRC. Draxler might be off to Juve for £18m. I distinctly remember Arsenal being quoted £40m one or two seasons ago. I blame City, United and Chelsea for this farce.

A fool and his money are soon parted...
 
Vidal off to Bayern for £25m i'd bet a mortgage that figure would've doubled if it was an EPL club buying. United were being quoted £37m-£40m last season IIRC. Draxler might be off to Juve for £18m. I distinctly remember Arsenal being quoted £40m one or two seasons ago. I blame City, United and Chelsea for this farce.

A fool and his money are soon parted...

epl revenues are bigger then the next 2 big leagues together
 
As long as the TV money continues to grow, and as long a select few ultra-rich clubs can outspend everyone else, it seems we will continue to see a situation where about 6-7 clubs continue to consolidate a chokehold on club football competition.
 
I'm not sure that many fans, or indeed players, really care. English football is hugely club-o-centric.

yup the yanks dont get it because they are educated differently, they need a bad guy or thing otherwise they would kill each other.

Fair enough, I don't live in the UK. But really? Most people truly don't care? From where I sit, it seems England fans want to win the world cup, and continue to be vexed that their team is no longer ranked in the top tier of international football. (by "top tier" I mean teams like Germany, Brazil, Italy, Spain, Argentina & the Netherlands that are seen as realistic contenders for the World Cup).

I don't know what you mean about Americans, Ironduke. The USA team is refreshingly unburdened with expectation and hype by comparison. There is no villain - we do have a good rivalry with Mexico, and everyone hated CONCACAF's suits, but I'm really not sure what you mean.
 
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Just under 3 weeks until one of the most exciting sides we've had for ages loses comprehensively to Burnley in the nicest kit we've had for 5 years and all optimism is washed away before another year of rubbish.

Ah well...
 
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Fair enough, I don't live in the UK. But really? Most people truly don't care? From where I sit, it seems England fans want to win the world cup, and continue to be vexed that their team is no longer ranked in the top tier of international football. (by "top tier" I mean teams like Germany, Brazil, Italy, Spain, Argentina & the Netherlands that are seen as realistic contenders for the World Cup).

I don't know what you mean about Americans, Ironduke. The USA team is refreshingly unburdened with expectation and hype by comparison. There is no villain - we do have a good rivalry with Mexico, and everyone hated CONCACAF's suits, but I'm really not sure what you mean.

Bullsh*t if your MLS got the love your nats got your league would be 2x its size, from outsiders your patriotism is amazing and vicious any thing that pits USA versus you go nuts for look at the womans team..........now look at the womans domestic league.

its the way you have been educated coming out of ww2 the main player, before then you were educated different.

In england most of us chose club over country especially the further you get away from london.

But then most of our clubs in england are real clubs started by real people who simply want to belong to something, that cant be said for most of your franchises
 
I don't want to get into a debate about nationalism in sport, since that could go on forever, but I feel like you're broad brushing US national team and MLS fans pretty hard there. USA fans have a well-founded reputation for traveling well and behaving themselves. It's the one area where I feel OK being patriotic without feeling like a bullying *******.

Yes, the USA is an international bully, and I find American patriotism nauseatingly excessive quite often, but, frankly, international football is the appropriate venue for flag-waving and patriotism (provided it is not done in the violent Balkan style). If the English can't be bothered that's fine, but it's not fair to compare your own ambivalence to our enthusiasm and deduce a "vicious" nationalism. I remember being at a USA-Mexico WCQ once and apart from a couple drunk idiots everyone managed to be very patriotic on both sides without it turning sour.

As for club football, there was a time when "Liverpool FC" consisted of one angry landlord. Were Liverpool's first fans in 1892 a bunch of plastic johnny-come-latelies, or were they legends, the vanguard of a storied, unimpeachable tradition of footballing excellence? (Or maybe just people who wanted to watch football and who lived near Anfield...) Just because MLS started things top-down doesn't mean the clubs have no history, no identity and no 'real' fans. The franchise system has also slowed the influence of money on competition.

Moreover, if you look at the history of football in the US, you will see a rich system of leagues and cup competitions in the 19th century, particularly in industrial towns. Our biggest cup competition, the Open Cup, dates from 1913 and is still running. The presence and popularity of baseball and, subsequently, gridiron football prevented that system from growing into a top professional league - but there is a very deep, rich history and tradition of football in this country that has never died out and feeds into current leagues.

Everything has a beginning, and despite the single-entity system MLS does have real fans, and that base is growing. When I lived in Ohio I used to drive 180 miles each way to see games, and I was not the only one. Columbus Crew has local sponsors, has fielded local players and is still a very affordable, intimate experience.
 
I don't want to get into a debate about nationalism in sport, since that could go on forever, but I feel like you're broad brushing US national team and MLS fans pretty hard there. USA fans have a well-founded reputation for traveling well and behaving themselves. It's the one area where I feel OK being patriotic without feeling like a bullying *******.

Yes, the USA is an international bully, and I find American patriotism nauseatingly excessive quite often, but, frankly, international football is the appropriate venue for flag-waving and patriotism (provided it is not done in the violent Balkan style). If the English can't be bothered that's fine, but it's not fair to compare your own ambivalence to our enthusiasm and deduce a "vicious" nationalism. I remember being at a USA-Mexico WCQ once and apart from a couple drunk idiots everyone managed to be very patriotic on both sides without it turning sour.

As for club football, there was a time when "Liverpool FC" consisted of one angry landlord. Were Liverpool's first fans in 1892 a bunch of plastic johnny-come-latelies, or were they legends, the vanguard of a storied, unimpeachable tradition of footballing excellence? (Or maybe just people who wanted to watch football and who lived near Anfield...) Just because MLS started things top-down doesn't mean the clubs have no history, no identity and no 'real' fans. The franchise system has also slowed the influence of money on competition.

Moreover, if you look at the history of football in the US, you will see a rich system of leagues and cup competitions in the 19th century, particularly in industrial towns. Our biggest cup competition, the Open Cup, dates from 1913 and is still running. The presence and popularity of baseball and, subsequently, gridiron football prevented that system from growing into a top professional league - but there is a very deep, rich history and tradition of football in this country that has never died out and feeds into current leagues.

Everything has a beginning, and despite the single-entity system MLS does have real fans, and that base is growing. When I lived in Ohio I used to drive 180 miles each way to see games, and I was not the only one. Columbus Crew has local sponsors, has fielded local players and is still a very affordable, intimate experience.

please dont compare your burger bar franchises to real clubs its disgusting, and all patriotism is a virtue of the vicious
 
lol disrespect just facts, your franchises move town when they want, bribe the city for new stadiums, have silly even racist names to give them an identity, are founded by greedy business men based on catchment and profit margin.

sorry but its true
 
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Just under 3 weeks until one of the most exciting sides we've had for ages loses comprehensively to Burnley in the nicest kit we've had for 5 years and all optimism is washed away before another year of rubbish.

Ah well...


hate to say it but that is a nice kit. still hate your team though.
 
Benteke to LFC official £32.5m. Benteke and Sturridge should have 40 goals between them in a season. But what about Balo, Borini, Origi, Lambert, Ings? where do they fit in?

PS- I'd hate to be a Villa fan right now.
 
Well the Gold Cup semis are done. The Reggae Boys wee the only team that showed up to play today and deserve to win this weekend. MEX got lucky at 89 min with another questionable call. What was Klinsman thinking playing a different lineup and formation ins such a critical game!?!

Anyhow, I expected better from Geiger.

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The usa have had this coming and so have some of their less knowledgeable fans who have been harping on about how good they are after their Friendly wins over holland and germany
 
Well the Gold Cup semis are done. The Reggae Boys wee the only team that showed up to play today and deserve to win this weekend. MEX got lucky at 89 min with another questionable call. What was Klinsman thinking playing a different lineup and formation ins such a critical game!?!

Anyhow, I expected better from Geiger.

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imho, we looked **** the whole tourney.

jamaica kicked our asses in the first half.
 
The usa have had this coming and so have some of their less knowledgeable fans who have been harping on about how good they are after their Friendly wins over holland and germany

ha! you lot beat holland and germany and let's hear what you have to say then!

we're better than we played in this cup for damn sure. the crew he took this time around clearly aren't our best.

hats off to jamaica though, they beat us fair and square, and with a starting keeper who currently plays in our 3rd tier !
 
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