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It's a stretch, but I'd love to see the Russians wipe Spain out of the cup. I foresee a 2-1 victory toward Croatia with the Danes trotting off to their humble land once more.
 
If only the obvious box foul had been avoided, it could have been 3-3 at 90' or even a completely different game.
If Argentina foul, that France scores 3 in the first half, and Argentina are out of the match completely. Don’t kid yourself into thinking those were not necessary. Argentina were overmatched.
 
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If Argentina foul, that France scores 3 in the first half, and Argentina are out of the match completely. Don’t kid yourself into thinking those were not necessary. Argentina were overmatched.
Read again what I posted.
 
Read again what I posted.

I did read it. You said the obvious foul in the 90’. Again that doesn’t matter. The game would not have been 3-3. Those early fouls stopped goals. It would have been worse for Argentina without them. What you don’t see is that Argentina were completely outmatched.
 
I did read it. You said the obvious foul in the 90’. Again that doesn’t matter. The game would not have been 3-3. Those early fouls stopped goals. It would have been worse for Argentina without them. What you don’t see is that Argentina were completely outmatched.
I said 1 foul.

And did I not say Argentina's team was poor?
 
I said 1 foul.

And did I not say Argentina's team was poor?

I know what you said. I said all those things. I am saying your wrong. That 1 foul doesn’t change anything.

Are you asking me if you said they were poor? Again it doesn’t matter what you believe, they were poor. Offense was the best we have seen all tournament, but the defense was as poor if not more then they have been. Those are not debatable.
 
I know what you said. I said all those things. I am saying your wrong. That 1 foul doesn’t change anything.

Are you asking me if you said they were poor? Again it doesn’t matter what you believe, they were poor. Offense was the best we have seen all tournament, but the defense was as poor if not more then they have been. Those are not debatable.
It could have been 3-3 at 90'. That's the point.

I am not arguing about play quality.
 
It could have been 3-3 at 90'. That's the point.

I am not arguing about play quality.

? How is that? What foul changed the score line? Mbappé scores both his goals in the second half in the run of play, so no foul played any part of that. If your talking about the foul in the box in the first half, France should have already scored that goal on Mbappé break away that he taken out on.

Again in no world does Argentina get that game to 3-3 without playing dirty.
 
?If your talking about the foul in the box in the first half, France should have already scored that goal on Mbappé break away that he taken out on.
You don't know that he would have scored if he had not been fouled. He had already been pushed to the end of the field.
 
You don't know that he would have scored if he had not been fouled. He had already been pushed to the end of the field.

If you can’t see that Argentina only were in the game because of the fouls, then we have nothing else to talk about. Go look at the stats. France were the much better team, and could only slow down France with dirty play.

If you think Mbappé was pushed to the edge of the field, you are just seeing this game one way. Seriously, I get your an Argentina fan, but open your eyes. You have to be realistic, and if you are, this game wasn’t close. Just as I like Portugal, but they didn’t deserved to win that game. They played like garbage. Sometimes your teams aren’t as good as you want them to be. Yesterday was clearly not Argentina’s day. Well none of this tournament was.
 
If you can’t see that Argentina only were in the game because of the fouls, then we have nothing else to talk about. Go look at the stats. France were the much better team, and could only slow down France with dirty play.

If you think Mbappé was pushed to the edge of the field, you are just seeing this game one way. Seriously, I get your an Argentina fan, but open your eyes. You have to be realistic, and if you are, this game wasn’t close. Just as I like Portugal, but they didn’t deserved to win that game. They played like garbage. Sometimes your teams aren’t as good as you want them to be. Yesterday was clearly not Argentina’s day. Well none of this tournament was.
I think you need a reading comprehension course.
 
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I think you need a reading comprehension course.

Nope, you may want to look back at what you wrote. I was going based completely off what you wrote. You suggest this game was 3-3 at 90’ if they didn’t give away a penalty. That makes zero sense based on what we saw. Maybe you need to learn how to assess a football match.
 
Nope, you may want to look back at what you wrote. I was going based completely off what you wrote. You suggest this game was 3-3 at 90’ if they didn’t give away a penalty. That makes zero sense based on what we saw. Maybe you need to learn how to assess a football match.
I said it COULD have been 3-3 at 90'.
 
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You also have no clue that Argentina score 3 goals if they hadn’t committed the penalty. The game would be completely different. We can play the what if game all day.
I said that before you. Go back. Now please stop.
 
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Argentina wasn’t that good through qualifying and especially in the tournament. When France woke up, the game was over. Not much debate here!
 
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Dirty Sergio Ramos being credited with an early goal for Spain, but it was an OG by the Russian player covering him as both fell.
 
Dirty Sergio Ramos being credited with an early goal for Spain, but it was an OG by the Russian player covering him as both fell.

Yes, but while Ramos is undoubtedly dirty, he is also opportunistic and able actually to play football, as Spain are far more able and sophisticated than Russia on the football pitch.

Ironic that Russia are undone trying to foul a player as accomplished in the black arts of filthy fouling as Ramos.

I'll be astounded if this does not end in defeat for the hosts.
 
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