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A very Latin American philosophy - it sounds like viveza criolla, where cunning is applauded rather than being frowned on as cheating.
I wouldn't call that viveza criolla, because this isn't about getting an unfair advantage, simply edging out a positive result without the development of the game necessarily reflecting that superiority.
 
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I wouldn't call that viveza criolla, because this isn't about getting an unfair advantage, simply edging out a positive result without the development of the game necessarily reflecting that superiority.

Fair point. We can return to this discussion later on if Suarez bites someone. ;)

In other news, Gareth Southgate has apparently dislocated his shoulder...better him than one of the players, I suppose.
 
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I don't remember seeing any team so focused in defending the no-score tie so early in the game. Iran is essentially playing with a 10-0-0 formation. They're too defensive. It'll go in eventually...
Well, maybe Iceland against Argentina was similar.
 
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Fair point. We can return to this discussion later on if Suarez bites someone. ;)

In other news, Gareth Southgate has apparently dislocated his shoulder...better him than one of the players, I suppose.

Indeed; strange that Southgate has dislocated his shoulder, but better him suffer such a strange injury than any of his playing staff, this is true.

Elsewhere, Spain are making heavy weather of subduing Iran.
 
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Fun statistic that describes the development of the match so far: 66 passes by Iran vs 366 passes by Spain.
(As I'm typing this, Spain almost scores).
 
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Close only counts with horseshoes and hand-grenades as the saying you lot have goes!
Come on Iran. I need that £66!
There we go. On a really lucky shot - which scraped the leg of the Iranian defender before bouncing on the Spaniard's and going in - Spain finally scores.
Which £66?
 
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Notwithstanding VAR, I'd like to have seen Iran's goal stand; it would have served to have made the match more of a contest, and made Spain sweat and work for victory and prove that they have the capacity to be champions; let champions - or aspiring champions - prove themselves, rather than simply stroll their way through the earlier rounds, dispensing with the conveniently placed peasants en route.
 
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Notwithstanding VAR, I'd like to have seen Iran's goal stand; it would have served to have made the match more of a contest, and made Spain sweat and work for victory and prove that they have the capacity to be champions; let champions - or aspiring champions - prove themselves, rather than simply stroll their way through the earlier rounds, dispensing with the conveniently placed peasants en route.
Agreed. It would have made the match a little bit more enticing.
 
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Very unfortunate.

I'd have liked to have seen Iran take a point from this encounter - they were a spirited opponent - and aspiring champions should work fro success rather than have it conveniently or fortuitously handed to them.
Most certainly. Now, I hope Iran defeats Portugal (Am I dreaming?) and if Spain defeats Morocco (highly likely), Portugal would be eliminated.
 
Most certainly. Now, I hope Iran defeats Portugal (Am I dreaming?) and if Spain defeats Morocco (highly likely), Portugal would be eliminated.

Alas, I don't see how Iran will be able to defeat a team that contains The Narcissistic Ego; personally, I cannot abide the man, but must (reluctantly) concede that he is supremely talented, gifted, and can sniff - and convert - a possibility of goal from the merest sliver of opportunity.

And - the one thing I will give him: Playing for his country matters passionately to him: Others with more jaded palates could learn a bit from his attitude.
 
Alas, I don't see how Iran will be able to defeat a team that contains The Narcissistic Ego; personally, I cannot abide the man, but must (reluctantly) concede that he is supremely talented, gifted, and can sniff - and convert - a possibility of goal from the merest sliver of opportunity.

And - the one thing I will give him: Playing for his country matters passionately to him: Others with more jaded palates could learn a bit from his attitude.
Oh, that he is. An interesting analysis I heard - in the always heinous comparisons with Messi - in Argentine media, was that he just plays for himself. He goes to his position, and plays there - although I have seen him go to defend - sparingly - his main focus is... Himself. Mainly staying in his place, while Messi (this I can attest to) covers his teammates's flaws by being everywhere, therefore hindering egotistical approaches that might be present in The Narcissistic Ego, and hindering personal play.
 
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Oh, that he is. An interesting analysis I heard - in the always heinous comparisons with Messi - in Argentine media, was that he just plays for himself. He goes to his position, and plays there - although I have seen him go to defend - sparingly - his main focus is... Himself. Mainly staying in his place, while Messi (this I can attest to) covers his teammates's flaws by being everywhere, therefore hindering egotistical approaches that might be present in The Narcissistic Ego, and hindering personal play.

Yes.

Agreed.

Much of the time, from what I have seen, The Narcissistic Ego plays for himself and the legend of himself.

Whereas, yes, I can see where Messi does have a more collective approach to such matters. (Which is something I find far more attractive personally and professionally, absolutely agreed).
 
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