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I think the worrying thing is for the other teams, is Man City is without arguably their best player in KDB are still winning well.
I think Liverpool and Chelsea will run them closer than last year, but not that close. Arsenal and Spurs will be best of the rest.

It's a game of fine margins at the top, but Man City have the most money, The biggest/best squad, and a celebrated manager who has bedded in and got the players experienced in executing his system.

On paper they should win the league, and more or less keep winning it forever until a rival club somehow gets richer and begins outspending them.
 
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It's a game of fine margins at the top, but Man City have the most money, The biggest/best squad, and a celebrated manager who has bedded in and got the players experienced in executing his system.

On paper they should win the league, and more or less keep winning it forever until a rival club somehow gets richer and begins outspending them.

What some other clubs conveniently forget is that Guardiola took a year of intense thinking and learning - his first year in charge at Manchester City - to learn and work out what he needed to do. At the time, he was much criticised - some nonsensical stuff was penned about how, for all of his success abroad, he wasn't cut out for the challenge of the Premiership. He was watching, listening, observing, thinking and learning.

The contrast with Mourinho is striking.
 
Columbus 1-0 NY Red Bulls

Columbus win again in the playoffs! Berhalter took a cautious approach here, resting Higuian for the first half given that he's in his mid-30s and played 120 minutes earlier in the week. But after coming on as a second half sub he played a lovely backheel to Zardes for the winner.

Given all the horrible distractions off the pitch, it is great to just be able to cheer on CBus and enjoy the football.

Columbus are not the most talented team in the playoffs, and have had to win two away playoff matches just to be here with a good chance of progressing. What we do have is a good balance of youth and experience, pace and technical skill, organization, a high team work rate, and a manager who keeps the team motivated and makes good decisions.

The presumption is that Berhalter will leave to manage the USA after this season, and that is bittersweet. Hopefully he can give us one last hurrah and deliver us to our new ownership in good shape.

What some other clubs conveniently forget is that Guardiola took a year of intense thinking and learning - his first year in charge at Manchester City - to learn and work out what he needed to do. At the time, he was much criticised - some nonsensical stuff was penned about how, for all of his success abroad, he wasn't cut out for the challenge of the Premiership. He was watching, listening, observing, thinking and learning.

The contrast with Mourinho is striking.

True, but football has become a very short-termist affair - from the perspective of the fans, media and owners alike. People want results NOW, and when they don't come the knives are out. It doesn't matter WHY, they just need heads to roll and signings to be made until things get better. Knee-jerk.

I think some of the criticisms of Pep were/are legitimate - for example, he only works with world-class players and virtually limitless transfer budgets, so we don't know how he would do at, say, Spurs, or Leicester. Very, very few managers enjoy such luxuries, so I think it is a perfectly valid question to ask just how much of his legendary managerial powers stem from his resources and how many are truly his own qualities. We will probably never know, since he has no reason to step down to a lesser team. Perhaps if/when he takes the helm of the Spanish national team we will get a better idea of how he operates under some time/talent constraints - though Spain's talent pool is also pretty deep.

Also, "systems" managers like Pep do produce teams with certain weaknesses. They are not always flexible enough in response to different opponents, and can struggle to break down resolutely defensive teams. They require certain kinds of players with certain temperments for certain positions, so the roster-building demands are pretty specific.

With that being said, Pep is clearly a serious student of the game, obsessive in his preparation, an effective motivator, articulate, and when given those massive resources he usually delivers. Some of the early criticisms just sounded like jingoistic braying, and they have been proven to be just that now that Guardiola's Man City are dominating the league.
 
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True, but football has become a very short-termist affair - from the perspective of the fans, media and owners alike. People want results NOW, and when they don't come the knives are out. It doesn't matter WHY, they just need heads to roll and signings to be made until things get better. Knee-jerk.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case increasingly.

I was impressed that Pep was given a year to work out what needed to be done without incurring much by way of criticism from the Manchester City faithful (whatever about some pundits in the national media at the time).

I think some of the criticisms of Pep were/are legitimate - for example, he only works with world-class players and virtually limitless transfer budgets, so we don't know how he would do at, say, Spurs, or Leicester. Very, very few managers enjoy such luxuries, so I think it is a perfectly valid question to ask just how much of his legendary managerial powers stem from his resources and how many are truly his own qualities. We will probably never know, since he has no reason to step down to a lesser team. Perhaps if/when he takes the helm of the Spanish national team we will get a better idea of how he operates under some time/talent constraints - though Spain's talent pool is also pretty deep.

Also, "systems" managers like Pep do produce teams with certain weaknesses. They are not always flexible enough in response to different opponents, and can struggle to break down resolutely defensive teams. They require certain kinds of players with certain temperments for certain positions, so the roster-building demands are pretty specific.

Fair point and fair comment.

But - at least he does have a rational system which is more than can be said for some others.

And few of his buys have been disasters who failed to perform to the standards required.


With that being said, Pep is clearly a serious student of the game, obsessive in his preparation, an effective motivator, articulate, and when given those massive resources he usually delivers. Some of the early criticisms just sounded like jingoistic braying, and they have been proven to be just that now that Guardiola's Man City are dominating the league.

This is the key difference between him and Mourinho: Mourinho has also had access to an astonishing budget with which to buy world class players, yet has neither vision, nor system, in place.

Likewise, there is his character: Pep is clearly able to motivate and articulate a vision of what eh wants to his players, - and, equally clearly, he puts in lots of obsessive preparation and plans.

Yes, the plans may be rigid, he may lack flexibility at times, but there are plans in place and players identified who can carry them out; that is not the impression I get from Manchester United.
 
I consider the FA's decision to drag Rooney out of retirement for the friendly against to the USA to be a cheap publicity stunt. Clearly some genius at the FA thought that Rooney's presence in MLS created "synergy" and his appearing fro England would dredge up more more interest in the match. One wonders of US Soccer put in a word as well.

But really, it's just a Disneyfication of the match and more ammunition for people who hate meaningless friendlies.

He didn't look like much against Columbus recently...though Columbus are a better team right now than the USMNT.
 
I consider the FA's decision to drag Rooney out of retirement for the friendly against to the USA to be a cheap publicity stunt. Clearly some genius at the FA thought that Rooney's presence in MLS created "synergy" and his appearing fro England would dredge up more more interest in the match. One wonders of US Soccer put in a word as well.

But really, it's just a Disneyfication of the match and more ammunition for people who hate meaningless friendlies.

He didn't look like much against Columbus recently...though Columbus are a better team right now than the USMNT.

Agreed; it is a cheap publicity stunt, and not what I would have expected from Gareth Southgate.

Then again, pressure may have been exerted, and he may have concluded that it was not worth fighting this pressure over a "meaningless friendly".
 
Agreed; it is a cheap publicity stunt, and not what I would have expected from Gareth Southgate.

Then again, pressure may have been exerted, and he may have concluded that it was not worth fighting this pressure over a "meaningless friendly".

Impossible to say who made the decision and why...I want to believe Southgate was simply told it was going to happen and not to make a fuss about it. Then again, as a former player, he may be sympathetic to Rooney's desire to pull on an England shirt again.

Also, the imbroglio over the shirt numbers is such a bore. I couldn't care less.
 
Impossible to say who made the decision and why...I want to believe Southgate was simply told it was going to happen and not to make a fuss about it. Then again, as a former player, he may be sympathetic to Rooney's desire to pull on an England shirt again.

Also, the imbroglio over the shirt numbers is such a bore. I couldn't care less.

Yes, agree, it is such a bore, but it is also an interesting matter of optics.

If Southgate has been instructed that this is what must be done - he has compassion but is not necessarily swayed by old loyalties (and given how readily he shed older players and supposed legends who were not performing, for now, this is the interpretation I favour), from a perspective of optics, the No 10 need not be given to Rooney.

It is quite sufficient that he take the field for a few minutes; however, he does not own that jersey and has no claim to it, especially as his return is considered to fall into the category of a temporary salute of recognition for his past contribution.
 
Mourinho might be serial winner in terms of silverware, but his constant antics make him a gigantic loser as a human being. He is just a big ball of rancorous angst, like a teenager.
 
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He was mercilessly taunted by the traveling Juve supporters at Old Trafford in the previous match. Still, a professional manager should be above that sort of childishness — but this is Mourinho we're talking about here.

A fortunate win, no doubt about it, but I'll take it any time.

There is talk that Mourinho may actually turn this all around and become a long-term manager at Man Utd. I still think he is too irritating and toxic to survive long-term, but who knows? Man Utd might eventually come to rival Chelsea in the public consciousness as a quintessential Mourinho team.

The counterargument to that would be that he will always self destruct, and also that as long as Pep dominates the league with Man City Mourinho will be playing second fiddle.
 
There is talk that Mourinho may actually turn this all around and become a long-term manager at Man Utd. I still think he is too irritating and toxic to survive long-term, but who knows? Man Utd might eventually come to rival Chelsea in the public consciousness as a quintessential Mourinho team.

The counterargument to that would be that he will always self destruct, and also that as long as Pep dominates the league with Man City Mourinho will be playing second fiddle.

I'm not sure that he will manage to craft an effective team from the cluster of talented individuals he has at his disposal.

And he is a lot more toxic than he was in his early days.

I still think he will implode, but it may not happen quite as soon as I had assumed when the season started.
 
They did, but we need to start getting a few more points against teams like Huddersfield.

I felt a bit sorry for Palace as I think they deserved a point against Spurs.


Should be some good games today though.

Agree re Palace, - Spurs have a lot of injuries - but, in the absence of Zaha, unfortunately, Palace seem to lack serious firepower, and the ability to convert chances.
 
Another knockout match for Columbus today and it's arguably the toughest one yet - away from home against the NY Red Bulls.

Columbus lead this two-legged playoff 1-0 and the away goals rule is in force, so a win or a draw sees us through. I will be on a plane during the match therefore I'm going to miss it, unfortunately.

Agree re Palace, - Spurs have a lot of injuries - but, in the absence of Zaha, unfortunately, Palace seem to lack serious firepower, and the ability to convert chances.

In the absence of Zaha, Palace lack any firepower whatsoever.

They did, but we need to start getting a few more points against teams like Huddersfield.

I doubt relegation will be a concern for you. However, all the teams above West Ham are top 10 material or better, so it will be a challenge to improve on the team's current position.

Liverpool's form is flat again at the moment. The Red Star fiasco was an away match in a very hostile environment with a B team, but still should not have been a 2-0 loss. Beating Fulham is no challenge for anyone at the moment either (pains me to say that, they had a great promotion season in the Championship).

It's a long season, but against the Man City juggernaut there is hardly any margin for error. And let's face it, Man City are going to win the title. But from Liverpool's perspective the goal is to at least keep it close.
 
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Another knockout match for Columbus today and it's arguably the toughest one yet - away from home against the NY Red Bulls.

Columbus lead this two-legged playoff 1-0 and the away goals rule is in force, so a win or a draw sees us through. I will be on a plane during the match therefore I'm going to miss it, unfortunately.



In the absence of Zaha, Palace lack any firepower whatsoever.



I doubt relegation will be a concern for you. However, all the teams above West Ham are top 10 material or better, so it will be a challenge to improve on the team's current position.

Liverpool's form is flat again at the moment. The Red Star fiasco was an away match in a very hostile environment with a B team, but still should not have been a 2-0 loss. Beating Fulham is no challenge for anyone at the moment either (pains me to say that, they had a great promotion season in the Championship).

It's a long season, but against the Man City juggernaut there is hardly any margin for error. And let's face it, Man City are going to win the title. But from Liverpool's perspective the goal is to at least keep it close.

Well, Liverpool managed to get as far as the Champion's League Final last year, which was no mean feat, and this year, I imagine that they will give Manchester City a genuine contest; the Premiership will not be the coronation canter of last year.

And, while beating Fulham may be "no great challenge" you still have to claim three points in such matches on a regular basis to be in a position to challenge for honours, and I thin Liverpool are able to do that more consistently than some of the other teams in top ten - or to five - places.
 
Another knockout match for Columbus today and it's arguably the toughest one yet - away from home against the NY Red Bulls.

Columbus lead this two-legged playoff 1-0 and the away goals rule is in force, so a win or a draw sees us through. I will be on a plane during the match therefore I'm going to miss it, unfortunately.



In the absence of Zaha, Palace lack any firepower whatsoever.



I doubt relegation will be a concern for you. However, all the teams above West Ham are top 10 material or better, so it will be a challenge to improve on the team's current position.

Liverpool's form is flat again at the moment. The Red Star fiasco was an away match in a very hostile environment with a B team, but still should not have been a 2-0 loss. Beating Fulham is no challenge for anyone at the moment either (pains me to say that, they had a great promotion season in the Championship).

It's a long season, but against the Man City juggernaut there is hardly any margin for error. And let's face it, Man City are going to win the title. But from Liverpool's perspective the goal is to at least keep it close.
Agree we are probably safe. But having spent £100,000,000 I’d rather be looking up the table than down. Especially with a top drawer manager.
 
Manchester City demonstrate the gulf in class between themselves and their local rivals with a convincing win over Manchester United by three goals to one.

Elsewhere, Wolves almost give Arsenal a fright scoring early - and Arsenal snatched an equaliser in the dying minutes.

However, I do like the fact that (unlike at times during recent years), Arsenal tenaciously fight back when they concede an early lead, there is none of that awful drooping of heads and slumping of shoulders that were so much a depressing feature of Arsenal's on field demeanour in the later Wenger years.
 
Manchester City demonstrate the gulf in class between themselves and their local rivals with a convincing win over Manchester United by three goals to one.

Elsewhere, Wolves almost give Arsenal a fright scoring early - and Arsenal snatched an equaliser in the dying minutes.

However, I do like the fact that (unlike at times during recent years), Arsenal tenaciously fight back when they concede an early lead, there is none of that awful drooping of heads and slumping of shoulders that were so much a depressing feature of Arsenal's on field demeanour in the later Wenger years.
I think Wolves are one of the surprise teams of the season. They are really performing well, when many would have tipped them for relegation.
Couldn’t be further from the truth.
 
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