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An understrength Man Utd demolish Leeds. I suspect this season may not throw up much drama at the top of the table...Apple fanboy's hopes of a comeuppance for the 'greedy six' is almost certainly a forlorn one. Though, it's still quite possible Man City will fail yet again in Europe. And that would be very funny.


The financial disparities are widening. It's still possible to punch above one's financial weight by being smart, but it's never been harder to do so. Man City are also smart - and they have practically bottomless wealth on top of that.

I was just talking over Arsenal with a (depressed) Gooner friend of mine today and I'm not sure what the fans should be hoping for right now. They can't compete financially anymore with the league contenders but they are in no danger of slipping out of the top half of the league either. The Champions league is at least two seasons away under even the most optimistic assessments, and that would rely on other clubs imploding. Maybe Cup runs? Of course, the club can continue to make a lot of money and raise prices even while winning nothing - such is the state of things.

Arteta may take the fall should results stay mediocre but that would be somewhat of a red herring in my opinion. Like Chelsea, Arsenal gave a young ex-player a shot at managing. Arteta, like Frank Lampard, will probably emerge rather bruised from the encounter. Lampard had a massively talented squad but couldn't deliver results fast enough for a very short-termist, greedy club. And he made the sort of mistakes you'd expect a relatively experience manager to make. That sort of thing is not tolerated at Chelsea, as Lampard well knows form his playing days. Arteta has a different, and arguably harder problem - a big club but still suffering from the ghost of late-stage Wenger, a quesitonable director of football, and a very patchy recruitment program. He's been dealt a bad hand, so it't hard to judge him if he ultimately fails. If he succeeds, it will have been from a position of considerable disadvantage.

On the other hand, there are plenty of indications that the ownership see Arteta as a reasonably effective lightning rod insulating them from criticism about mediocre results. So they may stick with him for some time. At least until the 'Kroenke Out' calls reach a certain decibel level.

Well, I've never been a member of the "Arteta Out" brigade, and don't fault him for the current underwhelming situation (which he inherited).

When Mr Wenger retired, I would have liked to have seen Thomas Tuchel appointed, but, in fairness, Arsenal are not the sort of club (the dismissal of Mr Emery notwithstanding) who rush to sack managers as a sort of sacrificial offering during a slew of unfortunate results.

Personally, I'm glad - and I said that throughout last year - that we are not in Europe this season; it would have been an unneccessary distraction.

And an early defeat of this sort might serve to concentrate minds a bit, whereas a comfortable victory could have given rise to complacency.
 
An understrength Man Utd demolish Leeds. I suspect this season may not throw up much drama at the top of the table...Apple fanboy's hopes of a comeuppance for the 'greedy six' is almost certainly a forlorn one. Though, it's still quite possible Man City will fail yet again in Europe. And that would be very funny.

I was impressed by Man Utd, and that without Varane, and with a rusty Sancho coming on when it was all over. They _definitively_ are contenders.

On the other hand, I'm watching Chelsea - Palace now, and even without Lukaku, Chelsea are in total control. (And Timo Werner just had one of the poorest excuses of a finish I've seen in a while, so Lukaku will be a HUGE upgrade on top).
 
Seems like the VAR adjustments already have paid off:

ARE BRU SERIOUS?

Fernandes would have been DENIED hat-trick last season with third goal benefiting from thicker VAR lines in Man Utd win​



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Manchester United and Leeds fans fight in the street as crowds return to Premier League​



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I could actually savor the good football Leeds played last year without their horrible fans mucking it up. Guess it was fun while it lasted.

United are on an upward trajectory that will only improve when everyone is back in the squad and Varane and Sancho are ready to play, but competition within the top 4 is going to be fierce. On paper, United isn't quite as strong as Chelsea and is still some distance behind City. So in theory they could be better than last year and yet still "regress" to third place.

Brentford's early showing isn't surprising to me. They looked cohesive and purposeful playing against United in the preseason. I always thought they'd be pretty good this season.
 
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3-0 is the most comfortable of wins, not a 'rout' but almost never in doubt. So a good result for Liverpool but too early to draw any conclusions other than it's obviously a good thing to be close to full strength, and likely to get there soon.

United are on an upward trajectory that will only improve when everyone is back in the squad and Varane and Sancho are ready to play, but competition within the top 4 is going to be fierce. On paper, United isn't quite as strong as Chelsea and is still some distance behind City. So in theory they could be better than last year and yet still "regress" to third place.
It will be interesting to see how it pans out. I expect Chelsea and Man City to set the pace.

I think Liverpool still have a shot at the title, but I also believe that when the current squad ages out (and that is soon), Liverpool will not have the resources to maintain a squad equivalent in talent with the Manchester clubs and Chelsea. We will be bringing in more second-tier veterans and prospects, and selling to buy, and success will be predicated on beating the odds with transfer gambles rather than simply buying the proven best players. FSG could dig fairly deep for expensive players if they had to but that is not really how they operate most of the time. The one time they really did that with Alisson and Virgil, silverware followed. But now fourth place is much more likely than second at the end of the season unless one of the richer teams implode. But Mourinho is not in the league this season so we cant count on that!
 
3-0 is the most comfortable of wins, not a 'rout' but almost never in doubt. So a good result for Liverpool but too early to draw any conclusions other than it's obviously a good thing to be close to full strength, and likely to get there soon.


It will be interesting to see how it pans out. I expect Chelsea and Man City to set the pace.

I think Liverpool still have a shot at the title, but I also believe that when the current squad ages out (and that is soon), Liverpool will not have the resources to maintain a squad equivalent in talent with the Manchester clubs and Chelsea. We will be bringing in more second-tier veterans and prospects, and selling to buy, and success will be predicated on beating the odds with transfer gambles rather than simply buying the proven best players. FSG could dig fairly deep for expensive players if they had to but that is not really how they operate most of the time. The one time they really did that with Alisson and Virgil, silverware followed. But now fourth place is much more likely than second at the end of the season unless one of the richer teams implode. But Mourinho is not in the league this season so we cant count on that!
Actually I agree 4th looks likely for you this year. Of course the one team you can never count on is Leicester. They seem to continue to defy the odds, and whilst Vardy is still doing the business, good for them. Once he gets too old though, I think they will miss him a lot.

So if that's the top 5 (Chelsea, City, United, Liverpool, Leicester), that means the rest are playing for 6th. Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham, Everton. Thats how I see it anyway.
 
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3-0 is the most comfortable of wins, not a 'rout' but almost never in doubt. So a good result for Liverpool but too early to draw any conclusions other than it's obviously a good thing to be close to full strength, and likely to get there soon.


It will be interesting to see how it pans out. I expect Chelsea and Man City to set the pace.

I think Liverpool still have a shot at the title, but I also believe that when the current squad ages out (and that is soon), Liverpool will not have the resources to maintain a squad equivalent in talent with the Manchester clubs and Chelsea. We will be bringing in more second-tier veterans and prospects, and selling to buy, and success will be predicated on beating the odds with transfer gambles rather than simply buying the proven best players. FSG could dig fairly deep for expensive players if they had to but that is not really how they operate most of the time. The one time they really did that with Alisson and Virgil, silverware followed. But now fourth place is much more likely than second at the end of the season unless one of the richer teams implode. But Mourinho is not in the league this season so we cant count on that!

Yes, but as long as Virgil van Dijk is available Liverpool are dangerous and will be able to challenge for anything.

It is not a coincidence that Liverpool have always performed extremely well when he has been available, and that their defence of their title collapsed last season once van Dijk had been (atrociously and severely) injured.

However, yes, I expect that both Manchester City and Chelsea will both challege strongly - with Liverpool and Manchester United also in the top four.

And, @Apple fanboy is correct to remind us not to disregard Leicester, who, like Liverpool, have a terrific team spirit.
 
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Actually I agree 4th looks likely for you this year. Of course the one team you can never count on is Leicester. They seem to continue to defy the odds, and whilst Vardy is still doing the business, good for them. Once he gets too old though, I think they will miss him a lot.

So if that's the top 5 (Chelsea, City, United, Liverpool, Leicester), that means the rest are playing for 6th. Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham, Everton. Thats how I see it anyway.

For Leicester, Iheanacho started returning a decent rate of goals last season, and Daka is a well-regarded addition to their front line. I think they need to get more this season from Maddison, assuming they don't sell him. Their defense is currently ravaged by injuries — Fofana in particular will be a huge loss, but Vestergaard is a good stopgap/depth addition. Regardless, they've fallen short at the end of two straight seasons, so we'll see if Rodgers can keep them more consistent this time.
 
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2-1 down at halftime against Newcastle. We don’t normally do well on the opening day though. Still all to play for. Nice goal or two for Antonio would do my fantasy football team a nice boost.
 
Newcastle leak three goals in just over ten minutes. Disaster for them. Weak penalty by Antonio but the rebound is tucked away (Never agreed with the concept of allowing rebounds...and if they are legal in open play they should be legal in shootouts).

What was looking like a solid win for Newcastle is going to end as a big comeback win for the Hammers. I can almost smell the odor of Steve Bruce roasting on a spit from here...
 
What a great way to end the matchweek.

Maybe Nuno can make something out of this Spurs squad after all. I don't know much about Tangagna and Skipp but they both looked pretty good.
Most Spurs fans seemed underwhelmed with Nuno's appointment. But I was more underwhelmed with the way Levy went about getting a manager than the manager they ended up with. He has a really tough job ahead of him and he'll probably always be working with a thin squad. But he's proven himself at Wolves and if I were a Spurs fan I'd be cautiously optimistic that he can put together a decent campaign. Not going to be pushing for a top four finish though (unless, I suppose, Kane stays and has another excellent season).

Guardiola has been quoted defending Man City's wealth advantage a few times this week, and his efforts are painful:

"Each club has its own reality, its own history, and every owner of every club decides how he wants to live. Our owners do not want to benefit, they want to reinvest in the team. There is Chelsea with [Roman] Abramovich and our club with Sheikh Mansour. They want to be in this world, they want to be buying into football. What is the problem?”

What utter drivel. I chuckle cynically at the idea that wealth inequality, at any level, can be airily dismissed as merely a different way of living. And a choice. Don't try to defend the indefensible, Pep. It's not a good look.
 
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Newcastle leak three goals in just over ten minutes. Disaster for them. Weak penalty by Antonio but the rebound is tucked away (Never agreed with the concept of allowing rebounds...and if they are legal in open play they should be legal in shootouts).

What was looking like a solid win for Newcastle is going to end as a big comeback win for the Hammers. I can almost smell the odor of Steve Bruce roasting on a spit from here...
Not sure I agree on the rebounds. If the spot kick is missed (post) or deflected by the keeper, how else would play continue? Stop the game and a goal kick? Thats not correct in my opinion. Similarly in a shoot out the keeper makes a save just for the striker to have another go? Can't see that working out too well either.

Anyway happy with the result as you might imagine. I was surprised by the Man City result. The fact that Kane didn't play means he is more likely to sign for them this week in my opinion.
 
2-1 down at halftime against Newcastle. We don’t normally do well on the opening day though. Still all to play for. Nice goal or two for Antonio would do my fantasy football team a nice boost.

An excellent victory for West Ham. 4-2 is a very impressive result.

Well well well, Spurs off to a flying start with a fully deserved win over Man City.

Agreed; another excellent victory, all the more impressive in that it occurred without Harry Kane's presence.
Not sure I agree on the rebounds. If the spot kick is missed (post) or deflected by the keeper, how else would play continue? Stop the game and a goal kick? Thats not correct in my opinion. Similarly in a shoot out the keeper makes a save just for the striker to have another go? Can't see that working out too well either.

Anyway happy with the result as you might imagine. I was surprised by the Man City result. The fact that Kane didn't play means he is more likely to sign for them this week in my opinion.

And agreed that Kane's absence suggests that discussions may well be taking place re an agreed transfer fee.

Spurs are asking for £150 million, while City are offering £127 million; I expect that these numbers may converge more closely over the coming week or two.
 
Spurs are asking for £150 million, while City are offering £127 million; I expect that these numbers may converge more closely over the coming week or two.

Levy has the advantage in that he simply does not have to sell. £150 million doesn't buy what it used to, and I struggle to see how Levy can make up for Kane's absence with signings in the next several weeks should he go. My instinct in that scenario is to assume he won't sell, and Kane can't really force his hand. The Haaland situation is similar - Dortmund can keep him for this season and still make a fortune off him next summer. In both situations the player in question is arguably irreplaceable, so it makes sense for the club to stand pat, at lest for this season.

And anyway, who wants to see Man City's squad get even more stacked? Pep's designer T shirts are probably worth more than most team rosters in the Championship these days....
 
Levy has the advantage in that he simply does not have to sell. £150 million doesn't buy what it used to, and I struggle to see how Levy can make up for Kane's absence with signings in the next several weeks should he go. My instinct in that scenario is to assume he won't sell, and Kane can't really force his hand. The Haaland situation is similar - Dortmund can keep him for this season and still make a fortune off him next summer. In both situations the player in question is arguably irreplaceable, so it makes sense for the club to stand pat, at lest for this season.

And anyway, who wants to see Man City's squad get even more stacked? Pep's designer T shirts are probably worth more than most team rosters in the Championship these days....
Agree that City getting hold of Kane isn’t good for the league. But it will be interesting to see how he performs at Spurs if he does stay. Might not get as much service as last year!
 
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