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The 2022-2023 Football Thread
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The Man Utd boys had a second half to forget, almost causing England to bottle it. Good win for the Lions in the end, and Luke Shaw gets a little time off after those two dumb yellow cards.
Word is that Bayern are going to sack Julian Nagelsmann. They've got high standards over there at FC Hollywood.
Word is that Bayern are going to sack Julian Nagelsmann. They've got high standards over there at FC Hollywood.
Just imagine supporting a club where winning the league isn’t good enough and the whole season really just comes down to a handful of European matches.
I daresay that the United boys might be just a little bit distracted by the drama surrounding the submission of possible bids for the club.
Ah, yes, well, one couldn't possibly contemplate PSG in those terms, could we?
As for Bayern, (and their ilk), this is the drawback of leagues where a single club gets to dominate the competition for years on end; ultimately, they discover that this is not especially healthy for them, neither domestically nor internationally.
The media is certainly trying to milk it for all it's worth, breathlessly covering it like some sort of protracted transfer saga, and more than happy to openly contradict each other judging by yesterday's newsfeed. I'm not too bothered: I think the Glazers will still sell, hopefully sooner than later. Neither Sheikh Jassim or Sir Jim are exactly white knights riding in, though the PR would be far better if England's homegrown exploitative petrochemical oligarch won out.
One of the most uninspired performances I've seen from our Boys In Gold
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We lack punch without Leal. Get well soon #8 ...
And wednesday lose to bottom of the table Forest Green, 1-0...
We're Still sat 2nd with a game in hand but meh!
We're Still sat 2nd with a game in hand but meh!
Very nasty challenge by Rodri (Spain and Manchester City) on Martin Odegaard (Norway and Arsenal) - which I have some difficulty in accepting was entirely accidental, for it was an ugly challenge of the studs on ankle sort after the ball had been played, - and, moreover, one which occurred in the penalty area, and for which Rodri was not, in any way, penalised.
Dirty tackle followed by a shocking referee.
Meanwhile Saka is making the right wing spot for England his own. Goal and assist against a Ukrainian team that started well then lost their way.
Bellingham and Rice continue to inflate their price tag and Kane continues to be Kane
Meanwhile Saka is making the right wing spot for England his own. Goal and assist against a Ukrainian team that started well then lost their way.
Bellingham and Rice continue to inflate their price tag and Kane continues to be Kane
This is what happens when some of the top teams play teams in the relegation zone fighting for league survival. It was a very good result for Southampton but Conte being outspoken again against the players and the club was just too much the owners to take I fear. Did Conte do what he did to engineer a way out of Spurs or is there actually problems at Spurs that are being kept hidden from the fans? Remember Ralf Rangnick did exactly the same at United towards the latter half of the season. He started to become more vocal about issues at the club and the players, issues that had been kept hidden away from the fans which opened up people's eyes as to what was really going on at United.
Conte is a very experienced manager, he was won league titles with Chelsea, Juventus and Inter Milan so it's not as though Spurs were getting an inexperienced manager that has won nothing.
but then again it got me thinking, maybe he is doing a Mourinho because he did the same at United, results were not going his way, he kept blaming the players and others within the club for the clubs failures and in the end it got to much for the club and they sacked him. Many football critics said Mourinho engineered his move from United by doing just that, blaming the players and others in the club for why results were not going their way. Has Conte done the same, engineered a move away from Spurs?
The outburst appeared to be a mixture of frustration and the desire to exit the situation. It reminds of Ronaldo at Utd. Talk sh*t about your employers, get sacked.
The only person that hasn't worked for is Brendan Rodgers at Leicester.
Levy would've kept Conté till the end of the season, but recognised that he'd deliberately destabilised the dressing room with top 4 at stake. Hence he was left no choice.
Pochettino should not go back there and should instead wait for the Madrid job. Maybe the Sporting Coach Amorim.
Potter would've been a good fit but he's locked up for another year - 5yrs
The only person that hasn't worked for is Brendan Rodgers at Leicester.
Levy would've kept Conté till the end of the season, but recognised that he'd deliberately destabilised the dressing room with top 4 at stake. Hence he was left no choice.
Pochettino should not go back there and should instead wait for the Madrid job. Maybe the Sporting Coach Amorim.
Potter would've been a good fit but he's locked up for another year - 5yrs
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Well, Conte does have a tendency of blaming the clubs, in the past he used to blame the management because of lack of investments, because clubs couldn't or didn't want to spend the kind of money he thought was required to compete, at least, that's what he did here in Italy.
The thing is, Leicester City is the club that has caused managers of other clubs huge amount of problems when it comes to investment of players because every time a manger goes to the chairman asking for more funds to buy players to help the club win things, the chairman can just reply back with 'Leicester City 2015-16'. No premier league manager will be able to have a comeback with that.
Leicester did an amazing job. It’s not about having the best 11 players. It’s having the best team that can play together in a variety of ways.
Inevitable and predictable.
What is interesting is that Conte was not prepared to wait until the end of the season to leave Spurs, - for Levy would undoubtedly left him in place before he chose to self-detonate - but there can be little doubt that he engineered his own departure.
Bear in mind that (according to the Guardian) he has lost three close friends - Gian Piero Ventrona, the Spurs fitness coach, in addition to two former players, Gianluca Vialli and Sinisa Mihajlovic (all to illness, and all of whom were close friends) - over the past few months, and has been ill himself; this may have been a time for taking stock of what is (or ought to be) a priority in his life. After all, his wife and daughter still live in Italy; his family never moved to the UK.
Moreover, under Mauricio Pochettino, Spurs had the potential to be a very good team, (remember, they made it to the Champions League Final) but they never managed to actually win anything; that was the time for further investment, for they were a very good team. Instead, they sold Eriksen, who was - to my mind - at least as important a player to the success of the team as were either of the better known pair of Son or Harry Kane.
Agreed.
In marked contrast to several other (far better resourced) teams, Claudio Ranieri fashioned a superlative team, with a terrific ethic and a wonderful team spirit, where the whole exceeded the sum of the parts. That season, one may argue several teams were in the process of "re-building", but that does not detract from Leicester's superb achievement in winning the title, for Leicester took their chances and led from the front for the second half of the season.
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Very much doubt it, not unless guarantees were made re spending.
And the problem is that the team that Pochettino constructed is no longer complete: for one, they - those who still remain - are older, more world weary and more battered than they were; for another, to my mind, they have missed Eriksen a lot more than they thought they would.
And thirdly, it is usually a mistake (for managers) to try to stage a return to a place where they were once successful and/or popular; things are not the same, and attempting to recapture the romance of the past rarely works well.