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The 2023-2024 Football Thread
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If the Dutch player had been well away from the goal then yes the goal is good because the player has no chance of interfering with play whilst in an offside position. The fact that the player WAS in an offside position and close enough to the goalkeeper to interfere with play the ref made the correct decision in my opinion.
If the goalkeeper had made a save, that player in the offside position would have been able to score, ergo the ref would have blown for offside. If the player in the offside position had made a touch of the ball to make sure 100% it was going in, the ref would have blown for offside but yet because the player did neither and just stood there in an offside position people are saying the goal should stand. Nope. Ref's decision was good.
If the goalkeeper had made a save, that player in the offside position would have been able to score, ergo the ref would have blown for offside. If the player in the offside position had made a touch of the ball to make sure 100% it was going in, the ref would have blown for offside but yet because the player did neither and just stood there in an offside position people are saying the goal should stand. Nope. Ref's decision was good.
That little guy who ran into the Turkey - Portugal (0-3) match and took a selfie on himself and Ronaldo.
He was not old but he had speed and it took sometime before they caught him. Fast footballer he will be 😂
He was not old but he had speed and it took sometime before they caught him. Fast footballer he will be 😂
An older kid ran onto the pitch afterwards and Ronaldo waved him away. It kind of became a circus — where were all the stewards while this was going on? Broadcasts typically cut away from pitch invaders so as to not give them the publicity.
The second guy was on for a few seconds and he (and Ronaldo) seemed to be getting ready for the selfie but the stewards were a bit faster and he ran away still holding the phone.
All this is fun but to be fair it is a security breach that with the wrong people could have bad results.
But the most weird moment in the match was the second goal.
There have been some own goals but this one really takes the cake.
All this is fun but to be fair it is a security breach that with the wrong people could have bad results.
But the most weird moment in the match was the second goal.
According to the papers, 5 football fans pitch invaded to try and get a selfie with Ronaldo. The first two he seemed to be ok with but with the 3rd he apparently waved the fan away as to try and say not to bother him. The 4th and 5th got stopped quickly by the stewards.
Over the past couple of years, players have been attacked by fans invading the pitch therefore it is a major embarrassment to the German FA and local German authorities that security was so bad that 5 fans were able to pitch invade during one game.
Over the past couple of years, players have been attacked by fans invading the pitch therefore it is a major embarrassment to the German FA and local German authorities that security was so bad that 5 fans were able to pitch invade during one game.
It would seem the person who you linked the video from was not allowed to make it because the video has been taken down, it is no longer available.
And after the game a sixth tried again with a steward tackling Gonçalo Ramos (striker currently with PSG) badly enough that he had to be evaluated. He is ok.
VIDEO: Portugal's Goncalo Ramos gets wiped out by steward chasing Cristiano Ronaldo-hunting pitch invader as Euro 2024 clash descends into utter chaos | Goal.com
Goncalo Ramos was sent tumbling by a steward chasing after a pitch invader as Portugal's victory over Turkey descended into chaos.
www.goal.com
Here the video works OK but forces you to open Youtube. Perhaps there are regional restrictions. That video is from a licensed Euro 2024 company
Try this one. It really is a strange goal. This video is a bit too short and you lose perspective which takes away from the comedy value. Still, the blunder is obvious.
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Thinking about the pitch invasions to get at Ronaldo, the way I look at it is that it is extremely embarrassing for every player in the tournament who's ego has them believing they are the 'top dog' and that fan's love them knowing 6 fan's invaded the pitch so they could get some one on one time with Ronaldo and yet no other player has fan's wanting one on one time with them, let alone 6 of them.
Ronaldo is so popular that 6 fan's pitch invaded so they could get close to him, a player many in the football world consider to be a 'has been', a player playing in a micky mouse league earning mega money to see out the end of his career and yet no other player is drawing the popularity with fans as Ronaldo is.
Ronaldo is so popular that 6 fan's pitch invaded so they could get close to him, a player many in the football world consider to be a 'has been', a player playing in a micky mouse league earning mega money to see out the end of his career and yet no other player is drawing the popularity with fans as Ronaldo is.
Thanks for for the video, can see it now. What a blunder by the player. He can see the goalkeeper was coming out to retrieve the ball thus all he needed to do was shield the ball whilst it rolled to the goalkeeper and you can see by the way the goalkeeper was moving his arms that we was basically signaling the player to leave it but nope, he saw the goalkeeper, he could see the signaling and yet still did what he did.And after the game a sixth tried again with a steward tackling Gonçalo Ramos (striker currently with PSG) badly enough that he had to be evaluated. He is ok.
VIDEO: Portugal's Goncalo Ramos gets wiped out by steward chasing Cristiano Ronaldo-hunting pitch invader as Euro 2024 clash descends into utter chaos | Goal.com
Goncalo Ramos was sent tumbling by a steward chasing after a pitch invader as Portugal's victory over Turkey descended into chaos.www.goal.com
Here the video works OK but forces you to open Youtube. Perhaps there are regional restrictions. That video is from a licensed Euro 2024 company
Try this one. It really is a strange goal. This video is a bit too short and you lose perspective which takes away from the comedy value. Still, the blunder is obvious.
I bet some people made a bundle of cash making a bet something like that would happen in the game.
Oh dear, it is not looking good for Southgate. According to the press Kieran Tripper who has been deputizing for Luke Shaw in the left back position has himself now got an injury.
It appears he has injured his calf, something he did at Newcastle towards the end of the season but it's not known if it is the same calf. This means another player is going to have to fill that position, a player who can play in that position but is not a specialist at it.
I just do not understand Southgate's logic here, he takes an injured Luke Shaw hoping that he will have recovered from his hamstring injury in time to play in the latter stages of the competition and he takes a not 100% fit Tripper who is obviously still feeling the affects of the calf injury he got towards the end of the season. He knows Harry Kane sustained a back injury which kept him out of Bayern Munich's end of season games.
I understand how good of quality the players are but why oh why do international managers do this? take injured or recently injured players into a major tournament when there are fit good quality players available. Granted the players will not be of the level of Tripper, Kane or Shaw but in my opinion it sends the wrong message to wannabe international players that a manager will would rather take excellent quality injured and recently injured players than good quality fit and injury free players.
It appears he has injured his calf, something he did at Newcastle towards the end of the season but it's not known if it is the same calf. This means another player is going to have to fill that position, a player who can play in that position but is not a specialist at it.
I just do not understand Southgate's logic here, he takes an injured Luke Shaw hoping that he will have recovered from his hamstring injury in time to play in the latter stages of the competition and he takes a not 100% fit Tripper who is obviously still feeling the affects of the calf injury he got towards the end of the season. He knows Harry Kane sustained a back injury which kept him out of Bayern Munich's end of season games.
I understand how good of quality the players are but why oh why do international managers do this? take injured or recently injured players into a major tournament when there are fit good quality players available. Granted the players will not be of the level of Tripper, Kane or Shaw but in my opinion it sends the wrong message to wannabe international players that a manager will would rather take excellent quality injured and recently injured players than good quality fit and injury free players.
I read this article in Yahoo Sports which about an interview Jude Bellingham has given to the media and in it shows a very good reason why England fans have the problem with England players as they do.
uk.yahoo.com
In the article it states that Bellingham is worth more than the whole Slovakia team combined. This is also probably true for many of England's other players but yet even though England's players are some of the most expensive in the world and earn some of the best wages in the world, their performances never match the level of the players worth and that in my opinion is where the problem lies between the fans and the England team. If you are worth the best and paid the best, people expect you to perform the best because of it but yet time and time again England fans see the players perform no better than a lower league team.
I recently watched a documentary about Sir Matt Busby who used to be manager of Man United between the 40's and 60's (one season in the 70's) and in it he made a comment about a 1947/48 FA Cup semi final game between Derby County and Man United where it was rumoured the Derby players had been offered a bonus of £100 per player if they beat United. Upon hearing this rumour United's captain Johny Carey went to his manager Matt Busby asking if they could have the same bonus and Matt Busby's furious reply was 'You can't buy pride or loyalty, if you could then football would be just another business'. How ironic a manager would say that back in 1947 about money being the incentive and motivation for players to win again rather than pride or loyalty and now look where we are today, Football being a business with money being an incentive and motivation to win games rather than pride or loyalty.
I shall leave with this. United legend Sir Bobby Charlton once gave an interview to Man United TV and in it he was asked his view/opinion on the United players and player performance (basically at the time of the interview United was not doing very well in the league and giving huge wages to it's players) and his reply was 'Money does not make a United player, it takes a lot lot more to be worthy of playing in a United shirt'. I wonder how many other club legends from other teams have made the same remark, that it takes more than just money to be worthy of playing for the shirt.
Who are we playing? Jude Bellingham sparks fury after forgetting England’s next opponents
England star Jude Bellingham has sparked fury in Slovakia by saying he didn’t know who the Three Lions were playing against in the last 16.
In the article it states that Bellingham is worth more than the whole Slovakia team combined. This is also probably true for many of England's other players but yet even though England's players are some of the most expensive in the world and earn some of the best wages in the world, their performances never match the level of the players worth and that in my opinion is where the problem lies between the fans and the England team. If you are worth the best and paid the best, people expect you to perform the best because of it but yet time and time again England fans see the players perform no better than a lower league team.
I recently watched a documentary about Sir Matt Busby who used to be manager of Man United between the 40's and 60's (one season in the 70's) and in it he made a comment about a 1947/48 FA Cup semi final game between Derby County and Man United where it was rumoured the Derby players had been offered a bonus of £100 per player if they beat United. Upon hearing this rumour United's captain Johny Carey went to his manager Matt Busby asking if they could have the same bonus and Matt Busby's furious reply was 'You can't buy pride or loyalty, if you could then football would be just another business'. How ironic a manager would say that back in 1947 about money being the incentive and motivation for players to win again rather than pride or loyalty and now look where we are today, Football being a business with money being an incentive and motivation to win games rather than pride or loyalty.
I shall leave with this. United legend Sir Bobby Charlton once gave an interview to Man United TV and in it he was asked his view/opinion on the United players and player performance (basically at the time of the interview United was not doing very well in the league and giving huge wages to it's players) and his reply was 'Money does not make a United player, it takes a lot lot more to be worthy of playing in a United shirt'. I wonder how many other club legends from other teams have made the same remark, that it takes more than just money to be worthy of playing for the shirt.
To be fair the players are paid huge amounts to play well for their clubs not England and as a general rule they fulfil that requirement. I find the expectations on the England side to be overblown and has been for eternity (see Kane’s “you didn’t win anything either” response to Lineker)I read this article in Yahoo Sports which about an interview Jude Bellingham has given to the media and in it shows a very good reason why England fans have the problem with England players as they do.
Who are we playing? Jude Bellingham sparks fury after forgetting England’s next opponents
England star Jude Bellingham has sparked fury in Slovakia by saying he didn’t know who the Three Lions were playing against in the last 16.
In the article it states that Bellingham is worth more than the whole Slovakia team combined. This is also probably true for many of England's other players but yet even though England's players are some of the most expensive in the world and earn some of the best wages in the world, their performances never match the level of the players worth and that in my opinion is where the problem lies between the fans and the England team. If you are worth the best and paid the best, people expect you to perform the best because of it but yet time and time again England fans see the players perform no better than a lower league team.
I recently watched a documentary about Sir Matt Busby who used to be manager of Man United between the 40's and 60's (one season in the 70's) and in it he made a comment about a 1947/48 FA Cup semi final game between Derby County and Man United where it was rumoured the Derby players had been offered a bonus of £100 per player if they beat United. Upon hearing this rumour United's captain Johny Carey went to his manager Matt Busby asking if they could have the same bonus and Matt Busby's furious reply was 'You can't buy pride or loyalty, if you could then football would be just another business'. How ironic a manager would say that back in 1947 about money being the incentive and motivation for players to win again rather than pride or loyalty and now look where we are today, Football being a business with money being an incentive and motivation to win games rather than pride or loyalty.
I shall leave with this. United legend Sir Bobby Charlton once gave an interview to Man United TV and in it he was asked his view/opinion on the United players and player performance (basically at the time of the interview United was not doing very well in the league and giving huge wages to it's players) and his reply was 'Money does not make a United player, it takes a lot lot more to be worthy of playing in a United shirt'. I wonder how many other club legends from other teams have made the same remark, that it takes more than just money to be worthy of playing for the shirt.
Full backs not realising their first job is to defend. When you’ve got your defensive duties sorted THEN you can run up the field. We’ve had attackers defending in midfield while the full backs are up the field. That sums up Southgate
What a shambolic game. Couldn’t tackel in the first half without a booking. Then at half time he must have left his cards in the dressing room.
We were terrible. Very lucky to still be in the tournament.
We were terrible. Very lucky to still be in the tournament.
Going by the reference of my earlier post, ONE England player is worth the whole of the Slovakian squad and yet the whole England team could not muster a target on goal in the whole 90mins. A win is a win as I kept hearing from England fans but it is still extremely embarrassing.
This Euro's has proven one thing that Southgate is an extremely arrogant person. The team were disjointed in the friendly loss to Iceland and they have been disjointed in every game so far something thousands of England fans can see except Southgate. Time and time again I read articles about how disjointed and out of place the team and players are and how time and time again fans say that the team can have a better cohesion if they played certain players in specific positions, players who Southgate does not use them or uses them out of position, Trent Arnold being a prime example.
There is also rumblings amongst England fans that Kane is still hurting from the back injury he sustained towards the last few games of the season an injury he is carrying in the games which is why he is not at his firing best, something fan's have noticed which has caused Kane to come under a lot of criticism. Worst still Luke Shaw is still not fully fit to take part, something fan's are angry about.
Switzerland must be licking their lips at the prospect of playing England considering how lack lustre they have been in all their games.
This Euro's has proven one thing that Southgate is an extremely arrogant person. The team were disjointed in the friendly loss to Iceland and they have been disjointed in every game so far something thousands of England fans can see except Southgate. Time and time again I read articles about how disjointed and out of place the team and players are and how time and time again fans say that the team can have a better cohesion if they played certain players in specific positions, players who Southgate does not use them or uses them out of position, Trent Arnold being a prime example.
There is also rumblings amongst England fans that Kane is still hurting from the back injury he sustained towards the last few games of the season an injury he is carrying in the games which is why he is not at his firing best, something fan's have noticed which has caused Kane to come under a lot of criticism. Worst still Luke Shaw is still not fully fit to take part, something fan's are angry about.
Switzerland must be licking their lips at the prospect of playing England considering how lack lustre they have been in all their games.
As a neutral this was quite a tense game which had some decent action in the end. England played very casually, there was little movement to it until Palmer came on. It just begs the question, if you see people like Saka for Arsenal and Kane for Bayern and Bellingham for Real Madrid, play for Europe’s top teams, where does it go wrong?
I think it’s Southgate, he seems to have an old, static view of the game and is not a top footballing mind like Guardiola or Ancelotti. Of course the task is different, he doesn’t have a season to mould the team in his image, but if I compare England to Spain, who have been arguably the best team of Euro 2024 so far, it’s night and day in movement and inventiveness.
Slovakia played the role of plucky underdogs very well, and it took an excellent goal to let England draw level with 60 seconds on the clock…
I think it’s Southgate, he seems to have an old, static view of the game and is not a top footballing mind like Guardiola or Ancelotti. Of course the task is different, he doesn’t have a season to mould the team in his image, but if I compare England to Spain, who have been arguably the best team of Euro 2024 so far, it’s night and day in movement and inventiveness.
Slovakia played the role of plucky underdogs very well, and it took an excellent goal to let England draw level with 60 seconds on the clock…
