You've basically nailed why the Series 3 had such a long run. Some people are quite happy with a minimal feature set, so the incremental yearly changes are of little value. But better battery life is a universal ask across light and power users alike.
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The 2023 Apple Watch Series 9: What to Expect From Apple This Fall
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It does - it makes a difference in the perception of progress.
Frequent updates with small changes will always feel less significant than further spaced updates with larger jumps. They sound less impressive in marketing, and spur less interest for those who already have the product.
I’m sure moving to 3nm chip will help with better battery times.
But can someone explain what voodoo magic Garmin uses to achieve such great battery life in their amoled models? I don’t suspect they have more advanced chips.
Some have suggested it was because it isn’t constantly syncing with a phone the way an AW does.
But does this save that much battery that it can last 7 days compared to 2-3 days on an Apple Watch?
But can someone explain what voodoo magic Garmin uses to achieve such great battery life in their amoled models? I don’t suspect they have more advanced chips.
Some have suggested it was because it isn’t constantly syncing with a phone the way an AW does.
But does this save that much battery that it can last 7 days compared to 2-3 days on an Apple Watch?
Right. I thought the hyperbole was obvious
Yes every day woukd be microsteps. Conversely every two years would be much larger steps but also mean a device in market using older tech that would be in some cases developmentally behind other products on the market. There is the crowd that already has the product who will be less likely to upgrade their perfectly working product but for new entrants the product will have more contemporaneous technology.
I’d rather see newer tech be available to those that want it rather than have it delayed to appease the folks who think they have to upgrade every time a new version comes out (and complain about spending the money ) and that a new version makes an older version obsolete.
I don’t know much about the Garmin at all, but does it have the processing power of the Apple Watch? Can I use it to control my TV? Dictate emails? Control my Spotify? Control my phone camera? Not looking for a feature comparison but are we talking about the same sports in terms of processing power?
It does seem impressive.
I would have to assume a portion of it is due to the OS. Then again, the original Venue model got like between 3-4 days while the 2 gets something like 10 days in the regular & 9 in the 2S. I would have to assume Apple tried an OS from the ground up for the watch & found going based off iOS was better.
The Venue 2 plus can do that all on Android but is restricted to only controlling Spotify(which most Garmins can do). It's an iOS/Apple restriction that only allow the Apple watch to reply to texts & dictate emails.
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Yeah, but it will be revolutionary. Now that we know the importance of monitoring blood glucose for not just peak athletic performance, but for longevity, we could be on the cusp of much longer, healthier lives.
The Apple Watch has been stuck for a very long time now. Maybe they lacked initial planning or were expecting to advance much quicker on new sensors.
I bought the series 0 then upgraded to the 3 because of the additional heart sensor capabilities and the fact that series 0 was basically unusable for anything. My last upgrade was a second hand series 5 because I wanted to play with the ECG and have the rounder screen.
I’ve never used the ECG since.. the processor is largely unchanged since series 5. I don’t feel that there is anything worth an upgrade while still having to even pay more than before for essentially the exact same thing.
But I get it, new cOlOuRs..
I bought the series 0 then upgraded to the 3 because of the additional heart sensor capabilities and the fact that series 0 was basically unusable for anything. My last upgrade was a second hand series 5 because I wanted to play with the ECG and have the rounder screen.
I’ve never used the ECG since.. the processor is largely unchanged since series 5. I don’t feel that there is anything worth an upgrade while still having to even pay more than before for essentially the exact same thing.
But I get it, new cOlOuRs..
Display has changed, quite a large increment there ....and who doesnt love faster charging...
Small things can make a BIG difference...
The Apple Watch Series 0 still works fine, if that's what you want to use. Apple's watches have plenty of longevity. They eventually lose out on software updates, but the watches continue to work and work well if that's what you want to use. Feature wise they will be lacking, but that's a choice you make when you use a aging technology.
But the OP was posting like his 10 year old Garmin is superior becuase it has a couple of speciifc features that HE thinks make it worthwhile keeping. That's fine, but a 10 year old Garmin is essentially a toy compared to a modern Apple Watch in regards to what it can do functionally.
And I can tell you this, the heart rate sensor on that 10 year old Garmin isn't CLOSE to being as accurate as the current Apple Watch. The Apple watch has the most accurate heart detection out there, so I'm not sure that his needs are really that important when he's using a heart rate sensor for the most part that is very inaccurate.
How can this thing be a workable web browser. That’s never going to be practical.
Music could be nice for emergencies. But Apple wants you to buy AirPods so I wouldn’t hold my breath.
The main appeal is health and sports. If you’re not into that, then it is indeed nothing more than an annoying notification gadget.
If you have a Series 4 or 5, there are plenty of reasons to upgrade, but mostly battery. By the time the Series 9 releases the Series 4 is a 5 year old watch.
In light of where the industry is and the overall smartwatch market, I’m glad I bought the Ultra last year. I won’t upgrade for a couple years, or until the Ultra goes microLED. Battery, design, materials, performance, features-there’s not much to add to the Ultra. It’s a fantastic watch.
Exactly the same place I’m at. Series 4 was a major visual and functional/speed change from previous watches. I’m not seeing a compelling enough reason to upgrade yet.
It is at 76%. I’m glad to make an appointment at a genius again but do you what I should expect to pay for a new battery?
Apples website quotes me $79 which is exactly what I’m glad to pay to renew my watch. But then when I took it in the genius was like it will be $300 cus they will find something else wrong with it so you might as well just upgrade to a new one. He was actually kind of a jerk lol.
Will be interesting what they come up with. I think a new processor with better battery life is most likely, maybe a redesign with a flat screen? Whatever they do they probably will have to update both the Ultra and the regular or neither, since the difference between the models isn't that big already. I can't imagine the AW9 having a superior processor compared to the Ultra.
Agreed. I had the Series 4 for years and had been contemplating an upgrade but the Series 8 didn’t have enough new compelling features to make it worth the money. The Ultra and it’s hefty price tag seemed like major overkill for somebody like me who isn’t a heavy outdoor users who does intense workouts, diving, etc. I do use the cellular model which adds to the cost but for me the ability to have the watch completely separate from my iPhone is part of what makes it appealing. It’s on my wrist so I’m not going to lose it or leave it somewhere by accident and if / when I do that with my phone I’m not SOL. I can ping my phone and if it’s truly lost, locked in my car or left behind somewhere I can still receive and send texts, take or make phone calls, etc.
I’ve been waiting for a killer feature like blood glucose monitoring of some kind even if it isn’t exact or, in my case, blood pressure monitoring of some kind, but it became obvious we’re still years away from either so I finally decide to upgrade to a refurbished cellular Series 7. I get the bigger screen and everything else in the 8 except body temperature monitoring which appears to be more useful to women than men as presently implemented and some extra battery life. By the time we do see one or both of the above killer new features it seems like I’ll have had the Series 7 for several years and will have gotten my monies worth as I did with the previous Series 4 and the original Apple Watch I owned before that.
The OS probably does eat up battery life. I suppose given the Apple watch is more a Swiss army knife that’s meant to do everything, not just fitness.
I don’t know what processor is used on Garmin watches but doubt it requires or has the processing power of an Apple Watch. I‘m not sure with respect to smart watch capabilities as I’ve been mostly looking at their Forerunner models which focus on fitness.
For instance they just release a few new models including this 965 which has an incredible 23 days of smartwatch use. This is how they arrive at their estimated battery life:
| Notifications per Day | 50 |
| Number of Interactions per Day | 160 |
| Device-Generated Alerts per Day (Move or Goal Alerts) | 2 |
| Hours per Day Outside of Bluetooth Range of Phone | 1 |
| Display Brightness and Timeout | Default Settings |
| Average Number of Hours per Day Spent Outside1 | 5 |
| Watch Face2 | Default |
| Number of Gestures per Day | 750 |
| Pulse Ox Mode | Disabled by Default |
| Number of Minutes of Streaming Music | 0 |
| Number of Timed Activities | 0 |
Battery Life | Up to 23 Days |
I admit it’s not entirely easy to compare Apples to Garmins. But damn, I‘d love to see Apple’s mainstream models get at least closer to a week between charges.
Most of the OLED Garmin watches are a lot bigger than even the 45mm Apple Watch they also have a lower display brightness and always on as well as puls ox disabled. If you enable everything on the Epix to make it comparable to the Ultra you only get a few days more, while losing LTE capability and apps.
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Yes a full sound Siri on the watch speaker:
“Stop eating right now, tubby. You are on a dark path toward morbid obesity and type two diabetes.”
Oh, phew, thank you Siri.
*chucks the oreos out the door onto the backyard lawn, and eats a raw pepper.*