Nope thats a vary old post when the phone was mot even out or where just realess all iphone 16 used the X71I meant X71 - my bad. According to this, the Pro Amex used the X75?
Nope thats a vary old post when the phone was mot even out or where just realess all iphone 16 used the X71I meant X71 - my bad. According to this, the Pro Amex used the X75?
I agree! From the iPhone XS Max, to the 12 Pro Max and 15 Pro Max, and now the iPhone Air, the excitement of having a new design in a phone is finally back.iPhone X was the last time I held a phone and genuinely felt impressed until the Air now. Tech just feels so bloated after the spec war, so it’s nice to have a breather and get back to design again.
Gives me hope they can make something elegant for the 20th edition.
We must never forget about the atrocities of the spec war.iPhone X was the last time I held a phone and genuinely felt impressed until the Air now. Tech just feels so bloated after the spec war, so it’s nice to have a breather and get back to design again.
That’s true, iPhone Air is overpriced.At a sane price it would be a really great phone.
So what is a realistic sane price in your opinion ?At a sane price it would be a really great phone. It's like an MBA marked up 33%. At that point it's just not worth picking up new IMO.
That’s true, iPhone Air is overpriced.
Yet Apple has a long record of charging premium prices that their devoted customers pay all based on the company’s influence over them.
I got my Air as a secondary phone but after using it every day since I have preordered mine, I have made the switch to use my new Air as my primary phone over my 15PM. I have been loving everything about the new iPhone, especially how thin and light this new iPhone really is. Sometimes I have to recheck my pocket to make sure it is in there because it being so light I sometimes don't feel it there. To me this is an amazing product developed and sold by Apple. Reminds me of when the iPhone X first came out. I have not had this feeling about a phone since then.Would you be willing to have the Air as your only phone? I see so many people saying they’re using it as a second phone.
It has everything to do with Apples marketing expertise. While it's true that they build excellent products, it can also be said they've achieved near total control over the minds of their buyers. Creating desire than influence people to overpay.Or, maybe some users have different priorities than you and are willing to pay more for a certain feature or design without being "devoted" or Apple having "influence over them."
You can say that about every single product Apple makes, not just Air. How can you tell that Pro phones are priced right? They cost a lot less to manufacture but the profit margin is huge on Pro versions too.It has everything to do with Apples marketing expertise. While it's true that they build excellent products, it can also be said they've achieved near total control over the minds of their buyers. Creating desire than influence people to overpay.
iPhone Air is a classic example. Another excellent example is iPhone 16e, two overpriced products that right thinking members of the Apple faithful admit are too expensive. With less features than their competitors, sales of these models allows Apple to laugh all the way to the bank.
Why would you not just add a line to your iPhone 17 Pro Max? From what I read they support dual E-Sims, so you can have 2 lines with one phone.I decided to pick one up today and using it is such a freaking pleasure. I got the 17 Pro Max at launch, but wanted another line just for personal use (at least that’s what I’m telling myself). Using this thing with no case is a breath of fresh air. It’s not perfect but man do I love it.
Because I wanted the Air.Why would you not just add a line to your iPhone 17 Pro Max? From what I read they support dual E-Sims, so you can have 2 lines with one phone.
Yeah, couldn't disagree more strongly. I'm willing to pay more for good design. That goes for everything from computers to furniture to cars. Has nothing to do with Apple having "near total control over the minds of their buyers."It has everything to do with Apples marketing expertise. While it's true that they build excellent products, it can also be said they've achieved near total control over the minds of their buyers. Creating desire than influence people to overpay.
iPhone Air is a classic example. Another excellent example is iPhone 16e, two overpriced products that right thinking members of the Apple faithful admit are too expensive. With less features than their competitors, sales of these models allows Apple to laugh all the way to the bank.
An interesting observation reveals that many buyers live in the Apple bubble and fail to recognize the competition.Yeah, couldn't disagree more strongly. I'm willing to pay more for good design. That goes for everything from computers to furniture to cars. Has nothing to do with Apple having "near total control over the minds of their buyers."
For my uses (and in my opinion) the Air is a significantly better phone than the 17, and therefore is worth paying a premium for. If you're big into using the wide angle lens and listening to stuff over phone speakers, then I can see why you might say it's a worse phone. But I'm not. I'd much rather have a nicer design than two "features" I hardly ever use, because I'm going to pick up the phone dozens of times a day.
A Ferrari has fewer features than a modern family SUV. Is it therefore better? Or perhaps do they have different customers for different reasons?That’s true, iPhone Air is overpriced.It has everything to do with Apples marketing expertise. While it's true that they build excellent products, it can also be said they've achieved near total control over the minds of their buyers. Creating desire than influence people to overpay.
iPhone Air is a classic example. Another excellent example is iPhone 16e, two overpriced products that right thinking members of the Apple faithful admit are too expensive. With less features than their competitors, sales of these models allows Apple to laugh all the way to the bank.
That’s true, iPhone Air is overpriced.
Yet Apple has a long record of charging premium prices that their devoted customers pay all based on the company’s influence over them.
The fact of the matter is that a vast majority of consumers don’t cross-shop Apple and Android. The Air’s primary competition is other iPhones. And the Edge’s primary competition is other Android phones.An interesting observation reveals that many buyers live in the Apple bubble and fail to recognize the competition.
I find the Air an attractive and compelling new iPhone.
However its shortcomings as compared to the well equipped Samsung Galaxy S25 Edge, suggest the Air is overpriced. My personal experience with the Edge and in-person experience with iPhone Air reveals a striking difference.
Years as an Apple customer have taught me that first generation products often arrive missing certain features that Apple includes in the second generation model. Therefore I'm taking a wait and see approach. If next years Air has two speakers and a better battery like the Edge, I'm a buyer.
An interesting observation reveals that many buyers live in the Apple bubble and fail to recognize the competition.
I find the Air an attractive and compelling new iPhone.
However its shortcomings as compared to the well equipped Samsung Galaxy S25 Edge, suggest the Air is overpriced. My personal experience with the Edge and in-person experience with iPhone Air reveals a striking difference.
Years as an Apple customer have taught me that first generation products often arrive missing certain features that Apple includes in the second generation model. Therefore I'm taking a wait and see approach. If next years Air has two speakers and a better battery like the Edge, I'm a buyer.
Yep. I was a Samsung owner earlier in the Galaxy and Note lines but the bloat was unforgivable. Not to mention the lack of software optimisation, and lack of OS updates or at least timely ones.I couldn't care less for a Samsung phone. I have had Galaxy Note 5, Note 8, and have used S22 for few months. I always come back to iPhone. The only Android phone that looks somewhat appealing is the latest Pixel line.
So, yeah, like you said, there are competitors out there but they are not interesting.
Like you, I have also been an iPhone user since iPhone 3G so I know how Apple works.
lol. I thought I was the only crazy one.Agreed, I got one for a week, returned it, and missed it so got it again yesterday.
I loved using it without a case but I actually prefer it with a case. I got a Grecazo slim fit and it adds a nice bit of grip with no bulk, plus comes with a handy ring on a very small loop, which has been really helpful at stopping it slipping and adds some anti-theft protection.
I’m so pleased with my decision. The Air is a pure delight to use. I’ve picked up my 16 Pro a few times and it feels horrible now. It’ll be traded in at Apple to contribute to the Air’s price.lol. I thought I was the only crazy one.
Tried the Air, 'needed' the ultra wide.
Tried the 17 Pro, great ultra wide
Still miss the Air.
So I'm returning the 17P, getting the Air and finally porting my number onto the Air, yet keeping my 16 Pro lol, for those planned events where I know I'll be shooting content.
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Edge may have better specs, but it’s Android. No go right there.An interesting observation reveals that many buyers live in the Apple bubble and fail to recognize the competition.
I find the Air an attractive and compelling new iPhone.
However its shortcomings as compared to the well equipped Samsung Galaxy S25 Edge, suggest the Air is overpriced. My personal experience with the Edge and in-person experience with iPhone Air reveals a striking difference.
Years as an Apple customer have taught me that first generation products often arrive missing certain features that Apple includes in the second generation model. Therefore I'm taking a wait and see approach. If next years Air has two speakers and a better battery like the Edge, I'm a buyer.