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lol. I thought I was the only crazy one.

Tried the Air, 'needed' the ultra wide.

Tried the 17 Pro, great ultra wide

Still miss the Air.

So I'm returning the 17P, getting the Air and finally porting my number onto the Air, yet keeping my 16 Pro lol, for those planned events where I know I'll be shooting content.

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This is why I chose to keep my 15PM in the event I may need the telephoto or ultra wide angle lens. Compared to my new Air, the PM is like carrying a brick.
 
keeping a phone that people are buying used for £600+ on the off chance of needing to take a specific photo is not something I can comprehend
Same, it's not like you're carrying around both of those wherever you go right? I've always traded in my old phones to help offset the cost of the new ones. Haha. Maybe I just need deeper pockets. :p
 
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This is why I chose to keep my 15PM in the event I may need the telephoto or ultra wide angle lens. Compared to my new Air, the PM is like carrying a brick.
I have a very unconventional suggestion for you. If you are 100% sure that you are keeping your Air then sell the 15PM. You should be able to get around $600 or so for it. Use that money to buy a good/used mirrorless setup. Any of the older Fuji cameras with a 18-55 lens will be much better than the cameras on 15PM.
 
I returned mine yesterday for the 17 Pro. I was at a football game on Friday night and the camera shortfall really was an issue. I didn’t want the Pro Max weight, so going with the Pro was the closest to the Air. I will say the slightly smaller screen is noticeable.
 
I was surprised to find out the IPhone Air screen is actually slightly larger than the IPhone 11 Pro Max. I always thought the max would be difficult to one hand. It may be the weight, balance and thinness that make the air easy to use with one hand. Been using the Pro phones since the 11 and I’m really liking the air so far.
 
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Edge may have better specs, but it’s Android. No go right there.
At work we use Android and iOS, I enjoy both.

As of September 2025, Android holds a commanding 75.18% of the global mobile operating system market, while iOS accounts for 24.44%. This indicates a significant lead for Android in the worldwide market.

Perhaps the greatest distinction between the two platforms is the freedom and flexibility offered by Android. Those sequestered within the Apple bubble are hard pressed to remain open minded and accept that the Apple way isn't the only way.
 
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I returned mine yesterday for the 17 Pro. I was at a football game on Friday night and the camera shortfall really was an issue. I didn’t want the Pro Max weight, so going with the Pro was the closest to the Air. I will say the slightly smaller screen is noticeable.
What about the camera specifically, the zoom?
 
At work we use Android and iOS, I enjoy both.

As of September 2025, Android holds a commanding 75.18% of the global mobile operating system market, while iOS accounts for 24.44%. This indicates a significant lead for Android in the worldwide market.

Perhaps the greatest distinction between the two platforms is the freedom and flexibility offered by Android. Those sequestered within the Apple bubble are hard pressed to remain open minded and accept that the Apple way isn't the only way.
Don’t overlook cost. The iPhone is essentially a premium priced phone at every tier. Android is available at every price point and so is a default option for people who can’t or won’t spend on an expensive phone.
 
The Air IS awesome. But it’s also a terrible value proposition, that makes it a tough sell for most…

The MacBook Air works in the lineup because it’s priced accordingly compared to the Pros. The iPhone Air will (most likely) fail because it’s demanding nearly Pro level prices for functionality that can’t even compete with what the base model can offer for $200 LESS and not nearly enough to compete with the Pros at only $100-200 more. It’s not even all that much thinner OR lighter than the base 17.

With that said… It IS a premium, and gorgeous, experience in what it can actually offer. One that instills a sense of joy and excitement that none of the other phones in the lineup seemingly can. And for those who barely use, or rely on, their phone (though why would you be looking at a $1000+ smartphone anyway if this type of user is you?), it very may well be the ideal companion.👏🏼
 
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At work we use Android and iOS, I enjoy both.

As of September 2025, Android holds a commanding 75.18% of the global mobile operating system market, while iOS accounts for 24.44%. This indicates a significant lead for Android in the worldwide market.

Perhaps the greatest distinction between the two platforms is the freedom and flexibility offered by Android. Those sequestered within the Apple bubble are hard pressed to remain open minded and accept that the Apple way isn't the only way.
I’m not questioning market share. I’m just saying for me it wouldn’t matter because I prefer iOS.
 
At work we use Android and iOS, I enjoy both.

As of September 2025, Android holds a commanding 75.18% of the global mobile operating system market, while iOS accounts for 24.44%. This indicates a significant lead for Android in the worldwide market.

Perhaps the greatest distinction between the two platforms is the freedom and flexibility offered by Android. Those sequestered within the Apple bubble are hard pressed to remain open minded and accept that the Apple way isn't the only way.
Android could hold a commanding 90% of the global market and I still wouldn't care because of past experiences and no one here is claiming that Apple way is the only way. From what I have read so far, they just don't prefer Android.
 
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The Air IS awesome. But it’s also a terrible value proposition, that makes it a tough sell for most…

The MacBook Air works in the lineup because it’s priced accordingly compared to the Pros. The iPhone Air will (most likely) fail because it’s demanding nearly Pro level prices for functionality that can’t even compete with what the base model can offer for $200 LESS and not nearly enough to compete with the Pros at only $100-200 more. It’s not even all that much thinner OR lighter than the base 17.

With that said… It IS a premium, and gorgeous, experience in what it can actually offer. And for those who barely use their phone (though why would you be looking at a $1000+ smartphone anyway if this type of user is you?), it very may well be the ideal companion.👏🏼
Lots of people don’t consider retail price of a phone, it’s “can I afford the monthly payment.”

nor is a casual, non-tech buyer spec hunting like the rest of us here. It’s “how much do I like it?” and the Air is incredibly alluring in the hand.

If they do get into specs, there’s a pro chip, 12gb ram, and a better CPU.
 
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Lots of people don’t consider retail price of a phone, it’s “can I afford the monthly payment.”

nor is a casual, non-tech buyer spec hunting like the rest of us here. It’s “how much do I like it?” and the Air is incredibly alluring in the hand.

If they do get into specs, there’s a pro chip, 12gb ram, and a better CPU.
Yet it’s still selling like **** compared to the Pros and base model, so… Demand clearly isn’t there for it currently.

Which is a total bummer, because I was really hoping it would break the mini/Plus curse of being the unloved (by the masses) “other” model in the lineup. *sigh*
 
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I returned mine yesterday for the 17 Pro. I was at a football game on Friday night and the camera shortfall really was an issue. I didn’t want the Pro Max weight, so going with the Pro was the closest to the Air. I will say the slightly smaller screen is noticeable.

I bought a Sony RX100 point and shoot for special occasions like concerts and games when I would actually want a zoom or bigger sensor. It wasn’t cheap, but it easily fits in my pocket, takes gorgeous photos beyond what even the 17 Pro can do, and it’s just plain fun to use a dedicated camera with pro features and controls. As a result, I now use the iPhone Air day to day without feeling like I’m missing out on anything and I couldn’t be happier. Love both devices and feel like I have the best of both worlds.
 
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Don’t overlook cost. The iPhone is essentially a premium priced phone at every tier. Android is available at every price point and so is a default option for people who can’t or won’t spend on an expensive phone.
Precisely.

As a long time smartphone enthusiast I also enjoy the various brands such as OPPO, Xiaomi, Honor, Vivo and others.

The variety of Android OS derivatives also keeps things interesting.

As much as I have enjoyed the wide variety of Apple products from iPhones, iPads, MacBooks and other items in my inventory, there’s nothing like choices to keep things fresh.
 
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Let’s remember the iPhone fold will have two cameras one less than the Pro on a 2 grand flagship so there we have it folks the argument about cameras and being thin will be old 2027 will be a new era of thin phones
 
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I bought a Sony RX100 point and shoot for special occasions like concerts and games when I would actually want a zoom or bigger sensor. It wasn’t cheap, but it easily fits in my pocket, takes gorgeous photos beyond what even the 17 Pro can do, and it’s just plain fun to use a dedicated camera with pro features and controls. As a result, I now use the iPhone Air day to day without feeling like I’m missing out on anything and I couldn’t be happier. Love both devices and feel like I have the best of both worlds.
I concur.

You now have an exemplary combo to enjoy, especially given the amazing results produced by the RX100. Then there’s the enjoyment factor that can’t be beat.

It’s refreshing to witness the launch of iPhone Air. While it doesn’t offer what I need in a thin and light iPhone, I’m taking a wait and see approach. Apples history suggests that the next version will likely include the features I’m looking for and if so, I’m a buyer.
 
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All those features the edge has don’t really work as well as Apple, the two speakers don’t sound as good as air, the battery doesn’t last near as long, the cameras can’t take as high quality shots, etc. it is all marketing fluff to make you feel you are getting the same experience but it us all compromised. What is in the air is really really good, while less features. This is a big difference.
 
I am absolutely stunned at the battery life, it’s a large screen small battery. With low power mode on while traveling Taiwan it last a day! What the heck. I don’t need back group processing such as downloading podcast while sight seeing. I was looking at battery packs in one of the malls but right now I don’t think I need it.
 
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I've been pleased with the Air's battery life. After 24 hours I have 50% to 60% battery life remaining. I charge my phone in the AM during breakfast if it matters.

The speaker has been more than acceptable too for my use ... I use it primarily for calls and an occasional video.

Have yet to test the camera but will do so on an upcoming scenic off-road trip.
 
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I got my Air as a secondary phone but after using it every day since I have preordered mine, I have made the switch to use my new Air as my primary phone over my 15PM. I have been loving everything about the new iPhone, especially how thin and light this new iPhone really is. Sometimes I have to recheck my pocket to make sure it is in there because it being so light I sometimes don't feel it there. To me this is an amazing product developed and sold by Apple. Reminds me of when the iPhone X first came out. I have not had this feeling about a phone since then.
I definitely have to pat my pocket to make sure it's there.. Glad I'm not the only one...:)
 
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